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Washington Wizards vs. Cleveland CrabDribbles, Regular Season Game 4 Open Thread

Washington Wizards at Cleveland Cavaliers, Nov 3, 2009 7:00 PM EST


The Essentials:

Wizards (2-1) vs. CrabDribbles (2-2)
7:00 p.m.
Quicken-Loans Arena
TV: Comcast SportsNet
Radio: 106.7 The Fan

Notable CrabDribbles numbers last season

1st in expected winning percentage (.787)
25th in pace (88.7 possessions per game)
4th in offensive efficiency/offensive rating (112.4)
3rd in defensive efficiency/defensive rating (102.4)

Pre-game links

Fear the Sword, SB Nation's CrabDribbles Blog
Cavs The Blog
Stepien Rules, a Cleveland CrabDribbles Blog
Waiting For Next Year, the best site on the Net for the CrabDribbles (and all Cleveland sports)
Fear the Sword season preview
Competition Discussion: Cleveland CrabDribbles
Michael Lee: The Other Side: Cavaliers
The Dagger Report, Episode 2: Cleveland Cavaliers edition
Mo Williams says this isn't a rivalry ... really?
GameDay Cleveland

Tonight's Projected Starters
Wizards vs. CrabDribbles
Gilbert Arenas
PG Mo Williams
Mike Miller
SG Anthony Parker
Caron Butler
SF LeBron James
Fabricio Oberto
PF Anderson Varejao
Brendan Haywood
C Shaquille O'Neal

 

Nothing more needs to be said. 

GO WIZARDS!

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Haven't seen that one in a while

Hilarious still

"One-on-one? You can't." -Gilbert Arenas
JC Bandwagon all day!

by kseandoyle on Nov 3, 2009 5:26 PM EST reply actions  

Watching the game tonight

with my best friend/cavs fan. Any creative taunts you can share with me would be appreciated. I like the fact that this is Lebron’s seventh year, and he still hasn’t won squat. That makes him mad and worried that Lebron will leave.

by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Nov 3, 2009 5:30 PM EST reply actions  

in truth i don't really think JeBron Lames is going to leave cleveland

but it is fun to see the defensiveness and panic the suggestion elicits from cavs fans.

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 3, 2009 5:37 PM EST reply actions  

Right now

I think there’s just as much of a chance that Lebron stays in Cleveland as there is of him leaving. In the end though, I don’t think about it too much. If he does sign somewhere else, I’ll simply hate that team as much as Cleveland.

"One-on-one? You can't." -Gilbert Arenas
JC Bandwagon all day!

by kseandoyle on Nov 3, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Hypothetical question

If Lebron signs with another team next summer, are the Wiz and Cavs still rivals?

"...at some point, when u r screaming for more minutes for Pecherov, you have to ask yourselves this question: 'If you keep adding more pineapple to a 'Papa Johns Pizza with Pineapple', when does it become a Papa Johns Pineapple with Pizza???'"

by Gilbert4SpaceJam2 on Nov 3, 2009 5:43 PM EST reply actions  

I hope so...

…cause we’ll be rollin’ ’em for a while.

by RamV on Nov 3, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

last day, but it might be blacked out depending on where you live.

by Fundefined on Nov 3, 2009 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Wiz are 6-1 underdogs.

But darn Bodog doesn’t have the moneyline up! This is easy money.

by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Nov 3, 2009 5:59 PM EST reply actions  

To expain

I’m not saying the Wiz will win tonight because I am superstitious, but I do think if the Wiz and Cavs played six games, the Wiz would win one.

by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Nov 3, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Wizards have a regular season winning record against the Cavs in the last 4 seasons if I remember correctly.

by Fundefined on Nov 3, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

now bodog is saying...

cavs are an 11 point favorite

"McGee is just flying all over the place. He’s like a condor." -Stacey King

by Lukbuster on Nov 3, 2009 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I need to get some sleep in Warsaw...

but I am thinking good thoughts… and I DO get the Suns game live Sunday, which is something to endure the work week for.

The way to win tonight is to run their big suckers into the ground, just keep sending waves of fresh bodies at ’em… Plus use our backcourt depth and, yes, size to maximum advantage…. let the crab king get his triple double but stymie the rest of them.

by khrabb on Nov 3, 2009 6:10 PM EST reply actions  

ahahaaha i saw this on the michle more doc…. man Labron is going to ditch them too.. thats soo messed up yoo …

Dams it … Feels LIke The Playoffs !!!!!!!!

by eltacoman on Nov 3, 2009 6:23 PM EST reply actions  

well...

It is immoral on Miller’s part.

"One-on-one? You can't." -Gilbert Arenas
JC Bandwagon all day!

by kseandoyle on Nov 3, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Swag on them Clv Crabs !!!!!!!!

by eltacoman on Nov 3, 2009 7:04 PM EST reply actions  

Where are the horrible local Mercedes ads featuring Flip? BB’s already getting very old.

by bronco6778 on Nov 3, 2009 7:04 PM EST reply actions  

I agree

I was going to mention this in the last road game thread, but forgot. I bet Flip would be very good at those.

Eddie Jordan was always so uncomfortable.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

You predicted a loss

Against the Mavericks didn’t you? And we all saw what happened that night…

by bigrm18 on Nov 3, 2009 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

That is correct

Hopefully I didn’t jinx myself and us again.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I am foaming at the mouth for this

CMON WIZARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Nov 3, 2009 7:08 PM EST reply actions  

Same.

I should be writing a paper or studying for an exam.

But this is more important.

by dnk on Nov 3, 2009 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

When Lebron comes to Verizon....

can we give everyone in the front row those mini fans so that chalk blows back in his face?

by Kevin Ewoldt on Nov 3, 2009 7:10 PM EST reply actions  

Watching on Broadband

Getting the Cleveland feed… BOOOOOOOOO
Lebron was asked about the rivalry in the locker room… said nothing and gave a stupid smile

"One-on-one? You can't." -Gilbert Arenas
JC Bandwagon all day!

by kseandoyle on Nov 3, 2009 7:13 PM EST reply actions  

don't call him Brenda here...

You’re liable to get some heat

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

ah my bad...

force of habit but will curb it

by Kevin Ewoldt on Nov 3, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow - what a surprise

LeBron complaining to the referees….

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

Hey idiots

That’s not DeShawn on the free throw line.

by bronco6778 on Nov 3, 2009 7:18 PM EST reply actions  

Great for us

And the rest of the NBA, but bad for the Cavaliers. Which means I love Shaq being there.

by bigrm18 on Nov 3, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah – at least with Varejao and Ben Wallace last year, they were quick enough to guard the PnR, and they were quick cutters on Offense too…. If Ilgauskas was having trouble, they could adjust… Now, they’ve got problems.

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

That was a fatigued cut by LeBron

Because he’s running around guarding Caron, he’s not cutting as hard. Even the move before, where he hit that turnaround, was slow.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

I wonder if anyone is going to play some defense tonight….

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

I don't want to see a whole bunch

of Varejao offensive rebounds leading to points!

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Nov 3, 2009 7:24 PM EST reply actions  

I am watching on some Cavs Basketball station...

They are more fans than commentators. They are talking about Lebrons last shot while Caron gets the fastbreak dunk, as if it never happened.

Even they are happy when shaq subs though

by Carlos Returns on Nov 3, 2009 7:28 PM EST reply actions  

Their color guy really bugs me

SLAM DUNK, THE L-TRRRAAAIIINNN!!! Makes me want to vomit.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait a minute how are you hearing the Cavs color guys?

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Nov 3, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Not tonight

But I’ve watched Cleveland several times on League Pass (watched part of the Charlotte game to “scout” them), and I’ve heard him before.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

It's on the ILP feed as well

So the whole world can vomit in sync…

by nowecant on Nov 3, 2009 7:30 PM EST reply actions  

Damn reply button…sorry…

by nowecant on Nov 3, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

man i hate this team

i think it’s the fact that the fans, announcers and the whole game production is like the bulls after they won 2 or 3 rings.

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 3, 2009 7:30 PM EST reply actions  

Except they haven’t won anything yet… and they still feel “entitled”

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 3, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

That's exactly

Why I (and probably the rest of you) really despise them and their ring leader (Lebron).

by bigrm18 on Nov 3, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm loving our

Passing and willingness to get the ball to the open man/get the ball to the man with the higher percentage shot.

by bigrm18 on Nov 3, 2009 7:30 PM EST reply actions  

I miss Steve and Phil

the “Dagger”
the miscues
the replay to see what really happened…

by Carlos Returns on Nov 3, 2009 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

This is where the Wizards should have the advantage – the second unit….

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

Miller needs to finish that

Just dunk it. Don’t bring it down to your waist and try to come up again.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 7:33 PM EST reply actions  

We move so well without the ball...

Years of screaming at the tv….MOVE…GET OPEN!!!

by Carlos Returns on Nov 3, 2009 7:33 PM EST reply actions  

Hmm, maybe shoulda all been lower case.

by bronco6778 on Nov 3, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

He claims he could develop a post game if he wanted, but he rather “shake and bake”

by Fundefined on Nov 3, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

he could be

i think he needs to be more decisive.

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 3, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Cavs anouncer classic quote

“Gibson especially stuggles at technical freethrows after defensive three second calls

by Carlos Returns on Nov 3, 2009 7:35 PM EST reply actions  

This team is clicking on all cylinders

And I’m loving it. The Cleveland crowd is quiet. HA!

by bigrm18 on Nov 3, 2009 7:37 PM EST reply actions  

What a good start

That crowd is like a morgue right now!

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Nov 3, 2009 7:37 PM EST reply actions  

woooooo

yess, great start to this rivalry flip

by stlballa on Nov 3, 2009 7:38 PM EST reply actions  

If our team can hold onto the lead...

Then i’ll know the Wiz have made the complete turnaround to a contender.

by Carlos Returns on Nov 3, 2009 7:39 PM EST reply actions  

The tenor of that quarter changed

Once the Wizards started running some plays for Caron. LeBron got tired and lost energy on offense, his teammates followed suit, and it was off to the races from there.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 7:39 PM EST reply actions  

yeah

and they claim it’s not rivalry?

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 3, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, seriously?

But the Celtics are their rivals… right.

This needs to be pointed out more.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

That was as smooth as silk

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Nov 3, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

hey shaq:

tell me how this tastes

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 3, 2009 7:44 PM EST reply actions  

Cavs broadcast had a poll

“Which Wizards player do you dislike the most?”
The choices were Arenas, Haywood, and Stevenson
Early results had Stevenson with 70%, Arenas with 20%, and Haywood with 8%
No I don’t know what happened to the other 2%
I think if Wiz fans were asked that same question, Stevenson would still win lol

"One-on-one? You can't." -Gilbert Arenas
JC Bandwagon all day!

by kseandoyle on Nov 3, 2009 7:44 PM EST reply actions  

they...

cleve-ed off the other 2%

"McGee is just flying all over the place. He’s like a condor." -Stacey King

by Lukbuster on Nov 3, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

awful

"One-on-one? You can't." -Gilbert Arenas
JC Bandwagon all day!

by kseandoyle on Nov 3, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

hehe

probably should have went with my better judgment and clicked cancel and not submit on that one.

"McGee is just flying all over the place. He’s like a condor." -Stacey King

by Lukbuster on Nov 3, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

JaVale's played really well this year

He hasn’t played much, but he’s made an impact in every game he’s played.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 7:45 PM EST reply actions  

Bad news

Three fouls on Blatche.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 7:46 PM EST reply actions  

I know...

And I was just thinking he had cut down on the stupid fouls so much. But this is Cleveland, remember???

by gbkdc on Nov 3, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s the only thing I can find wrong right now.

by bronco6778 on Nov 3, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I liked that reach-in foul on Shaq though

Going after the ball like that let him know that his size doesn’t get him a pass in this league any more. You can let Shaq try to back his way into the lane simply because he’s 400 pounds. The other two… well, Dray needs to calm down.

"One-on-one? You can't." -Gilbert Arenas
JC Bandwagon all day!

by kseandoyle on Nov 3, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, really?

Foul on Haywood?

He got hooked. What a joke?

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 7:50 PM EST reply actions  

that was no foul

"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,

by Mac G on Nov 3, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

This is a weird lineup

"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,

by Mac G on Nov 3, 2009 7:51 PM EST reply actions  

Cleveland – land of class.

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

Jeez

The fans are applauding a hard foul.

Classy, guys.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

You telling me we wouldn't applaud some giving LeBron

a Laimbeer?

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Nov 3, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd like to think no

But maybe.

I don’t think I would if he was taken down like that. I mean, did the fans applaud when Stevenson swung at him in Game 4 of the 08 series?

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty dirty foul by Shaq!

Intentional?

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Nov 3, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

Didn’t that same foul get Brendan thrown out of a game?

by bronco6778 on Nov 3, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

He came down on

Stevenson’s head purposely.

by bigrm18 on Nov 3, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

Shaq just took off his head, flagrant?

"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,

by Mac G on Nov 3, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

Good on Stevenson to not react.

by bronco6778 on Nov 3, 2009 7:54 PM EST reply actions  

Another idea...

Can we hand out DeShawn Stevenson jerseys to all the homeless in Cleveland? Anyone going there next…hand out like 1,000 of them. Some Wiz hats too.

by Kevin Ewoldt on Nov 3, 2009 7:54 PM EST reply actions  

I want to see that same call against LeBron

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 7:55 PM EST reply actions  

I initially thought he wasn't

But on the replay, yeah, he was.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I know

I just want to see if they’ll call the same thing – if a Wizard is there, and set… but doesn’t take the contact directly in the chest….

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Come on guys, stop zoning

We don’t know that defense yet.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 7:56 PM EST reply actions  

Hopefully Saunders is smart

Enough to realize that it isn’t working after this timeout.

by bigrm18 on Nov 3, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably why he stopped it

They had to slow the game down with three guards on the floor.

by bronco6778 on Nov 3, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

i think he was just buying time

glad he’s not riding gilbert too much.
finish the half with foye and gil.

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 3, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I want to see the Gil/Foye/Miller lineup

I think Cleveland would have a lot of trouble guarding it with Shaq guarding pick and roll.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Yikes

Caron at power forward? I dunno about this, but I guess they have little choice.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 7:59 PM EST reply actions  

mm

wheres the D, cleveland?

by taipei101 on Nov 3, 2009 8:00 PM EST reply actions  

Missed the goaltend.

by bronco6778 on Nov 3, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions  

Suffering with League Pass

I know its been said already, but these Fox Sports Ohio announcers are the worst. Be thankful if you have the local feed.

by larrystewart33 on Nov 3, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions  

agreed

doofus comes to mind listening to them

by corruptparty on Nov 3, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

i second, third and fourth that

only silver lining is if wiz win it will be sweet.

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 3, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Just in case...

Somebody is watching the league pass on DirecTV with the Cleveland announcers… It is also on another channel with Steve & Phil.

"McGee is just flying all over the place. He’s like a condor." -Stacey King

by Lukbuster on Nov 3, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

So true

They are insanely annoying.

"...at some point, when u r screaming for more minutes for Pecherov, you have to ask yourselves this question: 'If you keep adding more pineapple to a 'Papa Johns Pizza with Pineapple', when does it become a Papa Johns Pineapple with Pizza???'"

by Gilbert4SpaceJam2 on Nov 3, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Watching the Chinese feed, nonstop lebron commercials

by Fundefined on Nov 3, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Come on, that's a goaltend!

Flip knows it. He even told LeBron it.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions  

Mike – I think you’re right. LeBron looks tired… He should have powered through that foul for the and-1

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 8:03 PM EST reply actions  

Gil – quit…. You’re not getting any calls in their arena…

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions  

Guy behind Grunfeld looked like he was scratching himself….

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

probably getting change…. but looked weird

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Whoever this Cleveland announcer is

on League Pass, he can barely talk. It’s horrible.

by ronoD nagrO on Nov 3, 2009 8:08 PM EST reply actions  

Grrr...

Cavs guards heating up…

by DynaMix on Nov 3, 2009 8:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

You mean he doesn't get a foul call?

The Wiz whistled for 16, Cavs 9.

Representing DC with Wizards & Stuff - Truth About It.net and Bullets Forever.

by Kyle Weidie on Nov 3, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the officiating has more or less been fair.

They should have been whistled in that instance but I can’t complain about much else…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Nov 3, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

You don’t get the call…

by DynaMix on Nov 3, 2009 8:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

McGree gets landed on by Delonte, foul McGee, Butler gets hammered, no call, Lebron gets touched, foul

"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,

by Mac G on Nov 3, 2009 8:11 PM EST reply actions  

Wait, Arenas?

What did Arenas do?

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 8:11 PM EST reply actions  

The NBA executives

Are Lebron fans, thus they’re Cavs fans.

by bigrm18 on Nov 3, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

there you go Mike…

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 8:13 PM EST reply actions  

Miller set. beyond the line… didn’t take the contact directly in the chest…. Foul on Miller

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

This game needs to get to half, real soon

"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,

by Mac G on Nov 3, 2009 8:13 PM EST reply actions  

His feet were set for the longest time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Nov 3, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I like that...

no matter what you say it looks like you have video proof on youtube.

"McGee is just flying all over the place. He’s like a condor." -Stacey King

by Lukbuster on Nov 3, 2009 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I just watched that replay 2x

Mike Miller was completely stopped. F these refs.

by Kevin Ewoldt on Nov 3, 2009 8:13 PM EST reply actions  

Donaghy baby!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Nov 3, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Smart play by Gil

Sees the refs calling it close and takes it strong to the hole.

What’s up with his free throw shooting though.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 8:15 PM EST reply actions  

What is up with Gil’s poor FTs?

"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,

by Mac G on Nov 3, 2009 8:15 PM EST reply actions  

Run the damn offense GIL!

Stop iso- ing at the end of every quarter!

by DynaMix on Nov 3, 2009 8:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Disagree

Everyone isos their stars at the end of the quarter to run the clock down.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Why wasn't Dom playing more?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Nov 3, 2009 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

4 point lead after all those fouls, take it for sure

"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,

by Mac G on Nov 3, 2009 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

Personal Fouls

Washington 18
Cleveland 11

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 8:19 PM EST reply actions  

Most washington fouls on their big men (Oberto, Blatche, McGee, Haywood) with 12

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

it's 13 right?

Haywood 3
Oberto 3
Blatche 3
McGee 4

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 3, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

thought oberto only had 2

"One-on-one? You can't." -Gilbert Arenas
JC Bandwagon all day!

by kseandoyle on Nov 3, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

correct

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Nov 3, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, okay.

Thanks.

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 3, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

FT shooting needs to improve also.

"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh

by purpleonblack86 on Nov 3, 2009 8:20 PM EST reply actions  

for those using the league pass free preview

there’s an interview with tim grover during the half time of the denver indy game right now

by corruptparty on Nov 3, 2009 8:25 PM EST reply actions  

Is there a 2nd half thread?

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Nov 3, 2009 8:25 PM EST reply actions  

Is the lag time slow

I was going to go with one tonight, since we haven’t hit 350 yet.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

It is for me but if we haven't 350 then don't worry about it

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Nov 3, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

A little slow here

But my computer is decrepit. 450?

by bronco6778 on Nov 3, 2009 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

toward the end of the first half

admittedly I stepped away from computer because of election returns and going to get pizza

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Nov 3, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

BTW

Picture of the graphic asking the Cavs which Wizards player they hate most.

http://ianflo.tumblr.com/post/232340294

Thanks to @ianflo on Twitter.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

no problem..

in case anyone was wonderin.. we deshawn won wit like 80%

by ianflo on Nov 3, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Mine was slow even in the 1st quarter...

Haven’t seen any SB nation email chains yet complaining about it.

by Kevin Ewoldt on Nov 3, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Horriblest call ever

by bronco6778 on Nov 3, 2009 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

PLEASE call a foul

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Nov 3, 2009 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

Mike,

When are we allowed to start swearing?

by bronco6778 on Nov 3, 2009 8:42 PM EST reply actions  

That was an offensive foul?

Are you kidding me, why don’t you just give them the game right now, save me the time.

by ronoD nagrO on Nov 3, 2009 8:42 PM EST reply actions  

Three Cavs could have been arrested for assault on that one, and Haywood gets called for an Offensive foul?

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

He couldn’t have imagined he was going to draw an offensive foul there though. If he thought so he’d have probably passed it out.

by bronco6778 on Nov 3, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

BS

that offensive foul was bs

by taipei101 on Nov 3, 2009 8:44 PM EST reply actions  

Finally a call...

The cavs commentators thought it was an offensive foul!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Nov 3, 2009 8:46 PM EST reply actions  

oh i muted that shit long time ago

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 3, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm watching with a bunch of cavs fans

otherwise I would…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Nov 3, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Give them a break

That’s what they’re used to seeing called.

by bronco6778 on Nov 3, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

LeBron runs over Blatche – no call

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 8:48 PM EST reply actions  

the lack of offensive fouls on lebron is atrocious

by Droogie332 on Nov 3, 2009 8:49 PM EST reply actions  

Danny Ferry's a genius

He must have known getting Shaq would get them all the close calls between Himself and LeBron.

How quick do you think Michael could get out of his obligation to the Bobcats?

by bronco6778 on Nov 3, 2009 8:49 PM EST reply actions  

Why is Shaq sitting on a booster seat?

"...at some point, when u r screaming for more minutes for Pecherov, you have to ask yourselves this question: 'If you keep adding more pineapple to a 'Papa Johns Pizza with Pineapple', when does it become a Papa Johns Pineapple with Pizza???'"

by Gilbert4SpaceJam2 on Nov 3, 2009 8:50 PM EST reply actions  

money Foye

"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh

by purpleonblack86 on Nov 3, 2009 8:53 PM EST reply actions  

monie*

"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh

by purpleonblack86 on Nov 3, 2009 8:54 PM EST reply actions  

Gotta run

Computer can’t handle it anymore. Back if it gets good again.

by bronco6778 on Nov 3, 2009 8:55 PM EST reply actions  

Wow the Cavs

are saying that should have been a foul on Miller, wow. Now I see why cavs fans are douches.

by ronoD nagrO on Nov 3, 2009 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

damn Shaq

"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh

by purpleonblack86 on Nov 3, 2009 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

No call? WTF

"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,

by Mac G on Nov 3, 2009 8:59 PM EST reply actions  

home cooking..?

"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh

by purpleonblack86 on Nov 3, 2009 8:59 PM EST reply actions  

Let's just say if

we win this game it would be miracle.

by ronoD nagrO on Nov 3, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

WHY????

We are better than them. We should be able to pull this out

by Carlos Returns on Nov 3, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

5 points

We need to just forget we ever had the lead and just do to them what we did in the first quarter.

by Carlos Returns on Nov 3, 2009 9:00 PM EST reply actions  

How do you balance the frustration

over the ridiculous ref bias and the Wizards shooting jump shots for 2 straight quarters??

Coach Winters: Mississippi State's offensive set. 2nd & 2 on our own 24, what defensive set might we call?
Alvin Mack: Eagle Zipper Hero, unless the setback shifts into the I.
Coach Winters: Good..[clicks to next slide], third and seven?
Alvin Mack: Oakie Thunder Lion. {What's your assignment?}
Alvin Mack: Kill the quarterback. {{Coach Winters clicks to next slide}}
Alvin Mack: Hit the tight end so hard his girlfriend dies. {{Coach Winters clicks to next slide}}
Alvin Mack: Kill everybody.

by KD Drummond on Nov 3, 2009 9:00 PM EST reply actions  

agree, Wiz foul trouble and stagnant offense has killed them last 2 qtrs

"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,

by Mac G on Nov 3, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Difficult to fault the Wizards for shooting jumpers when every time they go to the hole, they’re clobbered – and no foul called…. but I still dispute that they’re settling – I think they’re still going to the hole – especially butler and arenas

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

the stretch when DeShawn came in during the 2nd

they refused to do anything but shoot jumpers the rest of the half- and they were up over 14

Coach Winters: Mississippi State's offensive set. 2nd & 2 on our own 24, what defensive set might we call?
Alvin Mack: Eagle Zipper Hero, unless the setback shifts into the I.
Coach Winters: Good..[clicks to next slide], third and seven?
Alvin Mack: Oakie Thunder Lion. {What's your assignment?}
Alvin Mack: Kill the quarterback. {{Coach Winters clicks to next slide}}
Alvin Mack: Hit the tight end so hard his girlfriend dies. {{Coach Winters clicks to next slide}}
Alvin Mack: Kill everybody.

by KD Drummond on Nov 3, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I would say Cavs have benefited on at least 10 calls

"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,

by Mac G on Nov 3, 2009 9:00 PM EST reply actions  

finally a call

"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh

by purpleonblack86 on Nov 3, 2009 9:02 PM EST reply actions  

gil shoulda kicked out to Foye

"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh

by purpleonblack86 on Nov 3, 2009 9:04 PM EST reply actions  

Wizards are making the first stop – but then they cannot stop the second shot

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 9:04 PM EST reply actions  

this game is getting out of hand

"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,

by Mac G on Nov 3, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

I'm sick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Nov 3, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

Gilbert is forcing shots

"...at some point, when u r screaming for more minutes for Pecherov, you have to ask yourselves this question: 'If you keep adding more pineapple to a 'Papa Johns Pizza with Pineapple', when does it become a Papa Johns Pineapple with Pizza???'"

by Gilbert4SpaceJam2 on Nov 3, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

bummer

not reacting well to adversity. gil forcing it.

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 3, 2009 9:06 PM EST reply actions  

+3

"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh

by purpleonblack86 on Nov 3, 2009 9:07 PM EST reply actions  

And the Cavs have tightened the screws on D

"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,

by Mac G on Nov 3, 2009 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

thank you monie

"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh

by purpleonblack86 on Nov 3, 2009 9:09 PM EST reply actions  

oh deshawn...

if someone’s going to jack that garbage up it might as well be nick young

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 3, 2009 9:09 PM EST reply actions  

Sorry guys Internet is being funky

Almost as funky as the Wizards right now.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 9:12 PM EST reply actions  

hate to see lebron smiling..sickening

"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh

by purpleonblack86 on Nov 3, 2009 9:12 PM EST reply actions  

We need to set up the offense

Pick and Roll. Pass the ball around. Get and open shot. If you miss the open shot…oh well.

by Carlos Returns on Nov 3, 2009 9:12 PM EST reply actions  

I MISS BASKETBALL IN THE 80s

Theres no way someone wouldnt have clocked someone on the cavs by now

Coach Winters: Mississippi State's offensive set. 2nd & 2 on our own 24, what defensive set might we call?
Alvin Mack: Eagle Zipper Hero, unless the setback shifts into the I.
Coach Winters: Good..[clicks to next slide], third and seven?
Alvin Mack: Oakie Thunder Lion. {What's your assignment?}
Alvin Mack: Kill the quarterback. {{Coach Winters clicks to next slide}}
Alvin Mack: Hit the tight end so hard his girlfriend dies. {{Coach Winters clicks to next slide}}
Alvin Mack: Kill everybody.

by KD Drummond on Nov 3, 2009 9:14 PM EST reply actions  

the refs dont call a slanted game

if they know a melee will break out

Coach Winters: Mississippi State's offensive set. 2nd & 2 on our own 24, what defensive set might we call?
Alvin Mack: Eagle Zipper Hero, unless the setback shifts into the I.
Coach Winters: Good..[clicks to next slide], third and seven?
Alvin Mack: Oakie Thunder Lion. {What's your assignment?}
Alvin Mack: Kill the quarterback. {{Coach Winters clicks to next slide}}
Alvin Mack: Hit the tight end so hard his girlfriend dies. {{Coach Winters clicks to next slide}}
Alvin Mack: Kill everybody.

by KD Drummond on Nov 3, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate Cleveland

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 9:14 PM EST reply actions  

Cleveland started making shots

That’s been the difference.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 9:14 PM EST reply actions  

they played well

used their size/refs to get wiz in foul trouble, then played inside out

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 3, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

They used the REFS to get the Wiz bigs in foul trouble....

THEN they started scoring inside…

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

aaaaand boom goes the dynamite

shit

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 3, 2009 9:15 PM EST reply actions  

wtf is this commentator talking about?

going on a rant about how Gilbert isn’t a point guard…

"...at some point, when u r screaming for more minutes for Pecherov, you have to ask yourselves this question: 'If you keep adding more pineapple to a 'Papa Johns Pizza with Pineapple', when does it become a Papa Johns Pineapple with Pizza???'"

by Gilbert4SpaceJam2 on Nov 3, 2009 9:15 PM EST reply actions  

Your not the only one asking that question

his shot looks like the one I had in middle school

by ccrun1800 on Nov 3, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey look – a Cavalier player was called for a foul (MO Williams) and he didn’t complain

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

That’s a first

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh

by purpleonblack86 on Nov 3, 2009 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

if i was a ref in this game..

i would stop the game, grab a mike, assemble both teams at half court and say that all complaints from here on out should be directed to me in email format…just click send…any verbal discussion concerning calls after a foul will result in techs….p.s. that was a terrible charge call on blatche

by stlballa on Nov 3, 2009 9:20 PM EST reply actions  

The hardest part...

Is that the wizards played this in typical wizards fashion. I dont mind losing… but having a large lead and letting it go. Forcing up shots… getting away from what created the large lead. Making a last second run to pull it to 5 then losing.

We need to get away from this formula.

by Carlos Returns on Nov 3, 2009 9:20 PM EST reply actions  

gibson was still moving

how was that a charge when gibson was still moving refs are so tainted man frick…

by taipei101 on Nov 3, 2009 9:20 PM EST reply actions  

gibson

practically had roller blades on there

by stlballa on Nov 3, 2009 9:20 PM EST reply actions  

this home cookin is beyond me

"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh

by purpleonblack86 on Nov 3, 2009 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

exactly

"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh

by purpleonblack86 on Nov 3, 2009 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

i dont see how

the replacement refs could be worse than this, billy crystal and keanu reeves would be better than this

by stlballa on Nov 3, 2009 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

Ya, as we know

Crystal can determine within .1 seconds whether Charles Barkley made a shot.

by Manimal Smith on Nov 3, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Wiz got screwed on calls but Shaq was the difference in this game. Im out, its been nice everyone. word

"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,

by Mac G on Nov 3, 2009 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

shaq was the difference because the Referees called early fouls on Haywood, forcing him to the bench… then proceeded to call 4 fouls on the backup (McGee) to get HIM on the bench….

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Nov 3, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

chris webber as halftime analyst on nbatv

can’t lie. i switched channels, got stuck on c-webb’s silky analysis. i’m a bad fan.

by larrystewart33 on Nov 3, 2009 9:25 PM EST reply actions  

boy butler sure disappeared

what’s up with that?

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 3, 2009 9:27 PM EST reply actions  

I know the refs have something to do with tonight

But our inability to get to the line, coupled with our propensity to foul, it really hurting us now.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 9:27 PM EST reply actions  

And the fact that we do not have a frontcourt built ...

to deal with the shaqs, dwight howards and the garnett/perkins/wallaces of the east.

Representing DC with Wizards & Stuff - Truth About It.net and Bullets Forever.

by Kyle Weidie on Nov 3, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Is this how it's gonna be all season?

A game where everything flows, followed by a game where nothing clicks after the first quarter?…

by DynaMix on Nov 3, 2009 9:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

AND

d-wade coming to VC in less than 24 hours. come on guys, get over this one quick.

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 3, 2009 9:29 PM EST reply actions  

yup frontcourt's an issue..dissapointing

"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh

by purpleonblack86 on Nov 3, 2009 9:29 PM EST reply actions  

I hate them

My swag was phenomenal.

by se7en on Nov 3, 2009 9:29 PM EST reply actions  

Referee loss anyone???? Go to Cleveland, you will get some of the worst calls in the world. My god that was agonizing to watch the ga—— scratch that agonizing to watch the referees.

by Unxpekted on Nov 3, 2009 9:29 PM EST reply actions  

true BUT

it has been a bit of a pattern with our big men getting lots of fouls early. oberto, i understand, but this must be addressed

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 3, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully

Jamison’s return will help a little bit here.

by hotplate on Nov 3, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont blame Wizards for losing momentum if I couldnt get a friggin call I would too.

by Unxpekted on Nov 3, 2009 9:30 PM EST reply actions  

Please Buckhantz...

For good measure rub in the lead the wiz blew once more

"McGee is just flying all over the place. He’s like a condor." -Stacey King

by Lukbuster on Nov 3, 2009 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

anyone think Mcgee could have helped with Shaq?

"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh

by purpleonblack86 on Nov 3, 2009 9:34 PM EST reply actions  

i think

it was lot to do with the refs…but everything happens in stages, we played well early, hopefully next time we can continue that play longer and with more consistency….this is going to make me hate shaq and cleveland fans have no class (i.e. buckantz comments about when stevenson was dumped by shaq, and if they had a vote on who the wiz fans disliked the most on the cavs, i would vote a million times for varejao and 999,999 for the auto insurance attorney James, kirk, and siaonz.

by stlballa on Nov 3, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions  

Highly disappointing...

I’ve really always wondered why referees are protected by the league in an impenetrable shell. Ever since the Donaghy scandal we were promised more information regarding the referees and how they’re trained and scored. It really calls into question the fairness of the league and Stern’s interest in the league’s brand. Now, I understand the game is tough to call and call correctly, but when you favor some players over others… it makes for a lame product.

That being said, the Wizards got away from everything they did right in the first quarter. DEFENSE. CONTESTING shots. They weren’t spectacular on offense, but they played a hell of a game on D. Towards the end of the game Gilbert just broke plays and called his number way too much. He, and I’m calling out him personally, needs to get Miller into the game so that if the defense sags to him, he’s got a knock down shooter ready to spot up. Frustrating and I sure as hell do not want to be in the locker room right now getting an earful from Flip.

by Craig_ on Nov 3, 2009 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

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