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Open Thread: Washington Wizards vs. Miami Heat, Regular Season Game 14

Washington Wizards at Miami Heat, Nov 27, 2009 7:00 PM EST


The Essentials:

Wizards (4-9) vs. Heat (9-5)
7 p.m.
American Airlines Center
TV: ESPN
Radio: 106.7 The Fan

Notable very early Heat numbers this season

12th in expected winning percentage (.557)
24th in pace (91.3 possessions per game)
17th in offensive efficiency/offensive rating (106.2)
12th in defensive efficiency/defensive rating (104.5)

Notable Heat numbers last season

14th in expected winning percentage (.509)
22nd in pace (89.9 possessions per game)
20th in offensive efficiency/offensive rating (107.8)
11th in defensive efficiency/defensive rating (107.6)

Pre-game links

Peninsula is Mightier, SB Nation's Heat Blog
Hot Hot Hoops, a Miami Heat blog
Peninsula is Mightier game preview
Ira Winderman's blog for the Miami Sun-Sentinel
Michael Lee: The Other Side: Heat
GameDay Heat

Tonight's Projected Starters
Wizards vs. Heat
Gilbert Arenas
PG Mario Chalmers
Nick Young
SG Dwyane Wade
Caron Butler
SF James Jones
Antawn Jamison
PF Michael Beasley
Brendan Haywood
C Jermaine O'Neal

 

We've already played Miami twice, so we should know what to expect.  A lot of Dwyane Wade.  A little of everyone else if you aren't careful.  Michael Beasley.  Good defense.  We all know the drill.

No definite word on Caron Butler, but Dave Johnson is saying he was at shootaround and should play. 

I'm hoping to see the same kind of unselfishness on offense that we saw for most of the 76ers game.  Miami has cooled off since their hot start, though they are coming off a pretty improbable win over Orlando on a controversial Beasley tip-in.  To get back on track, the Wizards need to win games like these.

Tip-off's at 7 on ESPN.  I might not be around much to watch this, because I'm still on a family vacation and we're scheduled to all go out to dinner tonight, so if anyone else wants to provide a longer recap, I'll happily bump it to the front page.

GO WIZARDS!

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Nick with an assist

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 7:14 PM EST reply actions  

and ANOTHER assist for Nick

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 7:14 PM EST reply actions  

I DON'T CARE ABOUT SCHEYER

GIVE ME MY WIZARDS! AAAAH!

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 27, 2009 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

Finally.

My swag was phenomenal.

by se7en on Nov 27, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Haywood's fighting in there

And Antawn is letting people dunk the ball. What’s new?

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 27, 2009 7:18 PM EST reply actions  

Beasley is not a good match-up for Antawn on the Defensive end…. Of course, most players in the league are not a good match-up for Jamison on the defensive end.

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha

Neither is Nick on Wade. I think this might be a long night. Or at least a high scoring one. I’m still shocked the line was EVEN the last time I checked.

My swag was phenomenal.

by se7en on Nov 27, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Well – so far, Nick has not allowed Wade to score….

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

And he’s only committed one foul

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

While getting “good defense by Nick” twice by Phil Chenier…..

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt Nick will be in for the 4th

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

When did NY cut his hair?

Maybe they started letting him start once he got rid of that goofy haircut.

by whippb on Nov 27, 2009 7:23 PM EST reply actions  

A “left handed Jamison”…. ????

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

And now a steal.

It’s nice to see him getting some minutes.

by whippb on Nov 27, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Anytime I see one of those underhanded “flip” shots…. I just call it a “Jamison”

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Caron not playing well

All those complaining about Gilbert, he actually contributes minus his few turnovers.

I have counted every missed Caron shot resulting in usually 3-2 points. We would be up 8 if Caron was off the court. I think he is as purposeful as Deshawn right now. Put him in for defensive purposes.

by Unxpekted on Nov 27, 2009 7:40 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah...

I like Caron, but it’s to the point now that every time he gets the ball, I start wincing.

by whippb on Nov 27, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Bad idea....

trust me…

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Isn't that what Thanksgiving afternoon is for

And by that I mean dinner with family

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Nov 27, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Our line up looks great. I think we solved the puzzle. Spot up shooters, and go big toward the paint. Young and McGee are proving to be deadly.

by Unxpekted on Nov 27, 2009 8:15 PM EST reply actions  

Been flipping between this game and the Backyard Brawl at work

9-point lead at half and O’Neal has 13 for the Heat. How encouraged (or discouraged) should I be. I swear there have been a clutch of Wizards-Heat game in Miami that have played out like this.

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Nov 27, 2009 8:20 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah – we can only assume that D-Wade will come out in the 2nd half and try to assert himself….

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow – Andray with only 2 points but 5 big rebounds

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 8:22 PM EST reply actions  

Nick with 17 minutes in the first half – with most of that defensively on D-Wade… I think he did a pretty good job, especially after the first quarter. He stopped going for Wade’s fakes and held him to 2-6 shooting in the 2nd quarter….

AND he had 4 assists… Nice first half for Nick.

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 8:29 PM EST reply actions  

Jermaine O’Neal has absolutely NO lift left in his legs… that’s the second shot he had blocked.

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 8:34 PM EST reply actions  

Terrific defense by Nick

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

I hope we won't see too many more NY --- 4 minutes

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Nov 27, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I cant figure it out.

The problem with our big three is each one has a glaring weakness. Arenas is getting beat time after time. Caron is a one on one player (which for some reason, never seemed so noticeable before this season.

by Carlos Returns on Nov 27, 2009 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

Arenas is perfectly fine. Im so sick of people talking about Arenas. Watch the games, he helps our offense.

Caron miscues are seriously hurting us. Caron is playing absolutly terrible.

by Unxpekted on Nov 27, 2009 8:46 PM EST reply actions  

Butler used to be such a strong player. He seems so weak now.

He is blessed like Carmelo to have that bigger build. He needs to use that

by Carlos Returns on Nov 27, 2009 8:46 PM EST reply actions  

I have counted 7 points off Caron miscues in the past 20 minutes!

by Unxpekted on Nov 27, 2009 8:46 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah I hate to say it, but if this is a lost game, I know where we can point a finger. I saw a 10 point lead depleted when Caron was touching the ball on the offensive side.

“The juice just wasnt tough enough” maybe a shot or two of mountain dew would have helped.

by Unxpekted on Nov 27, 2009 8:51 PM EST reply actions  

Charlotte up 11 late in the third

Not sure what that means for tomorrow night.

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Nov 27, 2009 8:53 PM EST reply actions  

Man Boykins offers so much energy when he comes in. I would like him inserted in the fourth. And ending with Arenas and crew.

by Unxpekted on Nov 27, 2009 8:56 PM EST reply actions  

This is a very winnable game…. Let’s see if the Wizards can keep their composure and keep sharing the ball, and playing good defense on Wade.

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 8:57 PM EST reply actions  

Arenas needs that swagger. There is something about the way Boykins moves

that makes him seem like a threat every time he has the ball. That being said, Arenas has unlimited amounts of talent that seems like it needs a jump start. Quickly, someone remind arenas he was drafted in the 2nd round

by Carlos Returns on Nov 27, 2009 8:59 PM EST reply actions  

Wow – Nick with another assist.

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 9:03 PM EST reply actions  

He’s having a very good game…. AS is Boykins and Blatche.

This lineup is doing very well… (McGee, Blatche, Boykins, Young and Jamison)

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Man we look awesome w/o Caron. NY = Caron replacement

Arenas doesnt need anything. He looks good. Plays professional. Minimal turnovers. Helps offense.

by Unxpekted on Nov 27, 2009 9:04 PM EST reply actions  

This is definitly the line up I see getting in to the playoffs.

by Unxpekted on Nov 27, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

Foye in for Young….

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 9:07 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe he finally figured out how to get some playing time….

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it so sad that 12 up with 6:48 to go I am thinking . . .

How is it going to go south this time!

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Nov 27, 2009 9:11 PM EST reply actions  

Faith George,….. faith.

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Mark

Can you throw up the postgame hread? Don’t have to say anything substantial, just need something. Thanks.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 27, 2009 9:15 PM EST reply actions  

Sure – It may take me a couple hours….

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

So how long before Gil comes back in?

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

Ohmigod the “pumpfake demonic demon” has been excorcised from Caron Butler. Also known as Flip Saunders begging Caron to stop thinking about Mountain Do with the ball and just shoot it lol.

by Unxpekted on Nov 27, 2009 9:20 PM EST reply actions  

I’ve enjoyed the commentary by Mike Breen and Hubie Brown. Balanced and only a little fawning over D Wade.

by hotplate on Nov 27, 2009 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

Real impressed with the Wizards tonight

Nick Young has apparently become a defensive beast, holding Wade to 5 of 17 shooting with only 4 shots at the FT line. And as a group, they’ve played good defense, forcing the Heat to continually reset their offense, which in turn has forced them to take lots of desperate, last-second outside shots.

by satchmore on Nov 27, 2009 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

I’m stunned by how many minutes Nick has gotten.

by hotplate on Nov 27, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s the same thing that happened against the Sixers, his defense is too good to pull him. Wade was tired by the end of the 1st half.

by satchmore on Nov 27, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Plus he makes the other guy have to play D

by hotplate on Nov 27, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, he looked really good. If we can get this consecutive win (not to mention Miller will be coming back at some point), I will be a lot more optimistic about this season than 5-9 would indicate.

by whippb on Nov 27, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

They called that one on Nick – but there was NO contact there….

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah – Nick got a call there… Haslem didn’t touch him.

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 9:26 PM EST reply actions  

Boykens!

I’m ready to guarantee his contract for the rest of the year.

by hotplate on Nov 27, 2009 9:31 PM EST reply actions  

Most exciting win of the season?

Maybe. I like the Swiss-army-knife aspect of the team right now, and their ability to play solid defense, consistently throughout the game.

by satchmore on Nov 27, 2009 9:31 PM EST reply actions  

If not exciting… at least intriguing… They played very good defense all game long. And especially Blatche, Boykins and Nick Young…

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Who would of thought

you would be writing those words 2 months ago

by Carlos Returns on Nov 27, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Blatche played especially well closing out around screens. There were several occasions where the Heat had to restart their set after their ball handler ran into Blatche.

by satchmore on Nov 27, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely

Huge win against a quality team. I’m the most excited I’ve been all year.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 27, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Just a couple games back (a few days ago!), things were really, really bleak; they were playing really out of sync. Good teams respond to adversity and improve. I just didn’t expect to see this big a spark coming from Nick Young, especially on defense. I’m starting to think that Nick could become a star, and I had more or less given up that idea due to his matador defensive style. I guess there’s more to his game than anyone realized.

by satchmore on Nov 27, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I realized it….

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I just got tired of saying it… and having no proof… and having everyone else poo-pooh my contention that Nick Young has all the tools to be an excellent (potentially elite) defender.

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by Rook6980 on Nov 27, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I knew it would come together. It seems it finally has. Suprisingly the equation? Go big with spot up shooters. Simple and plain. And one more thing, Jamison.

by Unxpekted on Nov 27, 2009 9:35 PM EST reply actions  

To quote Marvin the Martian

I am all a titter!

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Nov 27, 2009 9:35 PM EST reply actions  

The team clicks when the SG position is being run properly.

It’s always been a key cog in flip saunders system. If all caron is going to do is play eddie jordan ball, then gilbert needs to stop feeding him the ball and hit whoever is playing at the 2 more often. Caron is just bogging down the offense with his incredibly bad shot selection.

by Knowledge92 on Nov 27, 2009 10:18 PM EST reply actions  

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