Wizards hold on, win one for Abe
by Mike Prada on Nov 24, 2009 9:26 PM EST
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PrintLet's be happy, folks. We won this one for Abe. We almost lost it, but in the end, we did win it for him.
Kudos to the players for putting together a focused effort (at least for 40 minutes) and getting the job done.
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As much as we like to bitch about Gilbert...
a win in the NBA is still a win in the NBA. Good game fellas pulling through for Abe.
I am not sure whether I am glad the played the game tonight
Glad to have the win. Has their been any word about when the funeral will be.
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Nov 24, 2009 9:30 PM EST reply actions
I haven't heard
If it is open to the public I will try to go and pay my respects.
That was very frustrating...
I’m not happy about that win. We were awful for a lot of the game, especially when it mattered. What the hell do we do.
My swag was phenomenal.
by se7en on Nov 24, 2009 9:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I'm not happy either -
but you know it really was very difficult circumstances and they pulled it out somehow. There are some bright spots – Antawn, Young was good, Blatche is good, McGee had some good blocks. I think it was also a very timely win given everything that has gone on lately. So lets see what we can do from here
Agree with your goods
Boykins was okay too. But Gil was awful, again, and that is so worrisome to me. Haywood is just awkward, but we always knew that.
My swag was phenomenal.
Gil Continues to Struggle
And he can’t blame Caron for not catching and shooting, or Foye for not making shots. I’m starting to think that he needs to go back to being the old Gil and stop trying to be a pure point guard. He just can’t make shots unless he takes a lot of them and gets hot.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
Agree With Both of You
Abe’s spirit reached down and deflected Sweet Lou’s shot at the end to save this team from giving this game away by playing like crap in the 4th quarter. I’ll give these guys the benefit of the doubt because of all the emotion with Abe’s death and Eddie Jordan coming back to town, but this game doesn’t make me feel much better about our prospects this season.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
Team needed a win
Maybe this will get thing moving in the right direction again. Did Nick look as good as his line suggests? In the little bit of the game that I was able to see Blatche looked good. I like the idea of keeping him in there more with Antawn sliding over to SF.
When they can play poorly and win..
you’ve got to be thankful. Hopefully, Gilbert will improve from his time on the court. I just wonder when we’re going to see that improvement.
Well,
we looked better tonight when there weren’t TWO people stopping the ball movement.
Caron Was One
The other?
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
Gil Didn't Play Very Well
But I think it is unfair to say he stopped the ball movement. He did finish with 8 assists.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
I meant the season as a whole;
he hasn’t been distributing very efficiently.
by ronoD nagrO on Nov 25, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
McGee and Young
Two big games from the youngsters, Hopefully they can step up consistently
this year, Would like to see Gilbert more at SG with Boykins and Foye filling in,
Good tribute tonight gutsy 4th Quarter.
A few observations
1) having Arenas as the only ball-handler on the floor is a scary proposition
2) having Arenas, Boykins and Foye on the court at the same time makes no sense
3) Young played well on both sides of the ball
4) Javale needs to get spot minutes every game
5) 40 minutes is too many for Arenas and Jamison
6) Flip got outcoached in this game
7) we got a win!
1) Agent Turnover
2) I agree, it’s like having a bunch of kids fight for the last seat on the bus.
3) Finally
4) Agree, flip needs to ease up on his young big man
5) Agree very dangerous
6) When doesn’t he? the big crabolier’s comments in cleavland are starting to show some truth.
7) Barely, we need to keep improving
by o dat boy good on Nov 26, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
I'm just happy that we finally won
It was a lot closer than it should have been at the end, but Lou Williams playing out of his mind was a big part of that.
That turnover by Gil at the end was awful too, but again, we won.
I Feel Good for Nick Young
I was very hard on him coming into this season, saying that I think he has to be viewed as a bust since this is his third season and he couldn’t even crack the rotation. Well, if he continues to play like this, I’ll have to reevaluate my opinion.
What I really liked was his attitude. Early in the game, after making and missing a shot, he tried to drive baseline and dribbled off his leg for a turnover. Instead of hanging his head and pouting, he kept his head high and slapped his chest to simply say, “my bad”. He came back to make several shots. Very impressive considering how little he’s played recently. I sincerely hope he can keep this up.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
I guess I have a hard time evaluating Nick-
Not tonight – he was great. I don’t really count last season because of Tapscott’s crazy rotations and whatever that 7 game thing was called. I don’t feel like I’ve seen him play enough and I’m not all sure that is all on him, some of it is on the coaches who insist on playing the vets.
Fabricio is Definitely Our New Songaila
21 minutes, 0 field goal attempts, 4 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal, 1 turnover… highest plus/minus on the team with +15.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
If that guy could hit the outside shot he would still be in San Antonio, but yeah your right I like him a lot too a great glue player
by o dat boy good on Nov 26, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Inspiring Game
Inspiring not just because they got a win for Abe(RIP) but also because Nick and Javale played so well. Gilbert still looked out of it but hopefully that will change soon. Also, is it just me or did the offense seem to flow way better without Caron?, and was Abe the only person opposed to changing the name back to the Bullets? Could it happen now?
As much as I liked the name
I didn’t know until today how personal it was to Abe to change it. He’d gotten close to Yitzhak Rabin before Rabin was assassinated, and that had a lot to do with the decision to change the name. My vote would be to keep the name, but go back to the red white and blue, and put Washington on the jersey instead of Wizards.
That would be nice to change the uniforms back-
I miss the bullets name but it won’t be changed back especially with Abe passing away. I don’t think anyone would want to disrespect him this way knowing the story behind it.
Also
Leonsis touched on it in his statement, and that’s all I plan to do tonight, since everybody has had that thought and I don’t believe it’s disrespectful to Pollin to consider it: Leonsis does still intend to purchase the remaining stake in the Wizards and Verizon Center.
in fact
i think it’s kind of another positive thing for abe – working with leonsis enough to trust and respect him as the eventual heir to his two beloved teams. he did well.
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 24, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah we're going to talk about that tomorrow
I also saw that.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Happy about the win, confused about comments.
I hear some bad talk toward Arenas. The guy has basically been inured for 2 seasons and his making his return. He has played close to 13 or 14 season games.
1. He basically handed us a win tonight with his last few possesions that ended in made layups. I am not sure where the disappointment toward Gil is at? I dont see us winning this game w/o those few offensive baskets that he made I believe back to back on 3 or 4 possesions in the fourth. The guy needs time, practice, and confidence. If you dont think Arenas will have a break out game I dont think your thinking logically. He is not the Arenas of before but we dont want that. We want a balanced team, i.e. Lakers, Magic, Celtics.
2. I hate to say it but, offense, seemed to flow a little bit better without Caron. I am not saying we looked better, nor am I saying we were better. Just saying the ball movement looked better.
3. We got a win? Wins = confidence. Confidence = better play. Better play = Wins!
RIP Abe
I am looking forward to friday.
PS. Jamison, McGee and NY looked great. I would prefer NY as a starter over Caron. For now.
Very right about Arenas
It’s going to be a while till he shakes off the rust.
by MR on Nov 25, 2009 7:50 AM EST up reply actions
Why the Bad Talk
The most turnovers anybody on either team had other than Arenas was two. Arenas had 6, including 3 in the 4th quarter. Consider his 4th quarter play-by-play references:
8:36 82-94 Gilbert Arenas enters the game for Antawn Jamison
6:33 87-98 Gilbert Arenas makes 20-foot jumper (Earl Boykins assists)
5:31 89-98 Gilbert Arenas bad pass (Jrue Holiday steals)
4:56 92-98 Gilbert Arenas misses 26-foot three point jumper
4:31 92-98 Gilbert Arenas lost ball (Jrue Holiday steals)
2:57 97-100 Samuel Dalembert shooting foul (Gilbert Arenas draws the foul)
2:57 97-101 Gilbert Arenas makes free throw 1 of 2
2:57 97-102 Gilbert Arenas makes free throw 2 of 2
2:00 99-104 Andray Blatche makes 6-foot two point shot (Gilbert Arenas assists)
1:17 102-104 Gilbert Arenas misses layup
0:52 105-108 Gilbert Arenas makes 1-foot two point shot
0:27 107-108 Gilbert Arenas bad pass
Yeah, there were some good plays sprinkled in there, but consider he entered the game with 8:36 left in the 4th and his team leading by 12, and he did more harm than good during that stretch. And the play-by-play doesn’t even reference his so-so defense on that last play, which ended up with Lou Williams getting a very good look on a 3-pointer at the end.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
Link to the Play-by-Play
Forgot to include the link: http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=291124027
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
We WILL MISS Abe
Glad they got the win, but let us hope the guys rally and get Abe the trophy!
I wrote about him myself here :
http://judspressbox.blogspot.com/2009/11/thank-you-abe-pollin-for-caring-about.html
by Crazy Canton Cuts on Nov 25, 2009 3:08 AM EST reply actions
Imporant win, and fitting that Jamison shined
Because that was probably Abe’s favorite player on the team and is exactly the kind of class act that Abe wished all players would emulate.
One general question though:
Can anyone explain why Gilbert was on the floor for Philly’s last shot while Taser was sitting on the bench? Flip had no problem bringing in an ice cold Deshawn, so that can’t be the reasoning. That made no sense, especially when you consider that I think he could have subbed him in after Brendan committed the foul on the flare out and we knew that Philly would run the clock out.
Gilbert is completely lost on defense and couldn’t guard Lou Williams if you gave him an actual taser. So, why isn’t Taser, our most athletic defender, out there on the floor? We are just lucky that Lou took a three instead of skipping past Gil’s Ole defense and taking it to the hoop to get fouled.
It Looked Like Gil Was Guarding Against the Layup
He was playing way off of Lou, allowing Lou to get that very clean look (Comcast SportsNet analysts after the game said Gil contested the shot, but it looked wide open to me) on that last shot. I suppose that was better than letting him drive to the basket, though.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
Lou is just good
His shot has improved alot so that makes him that much harder for a non defensive player such as Gilbert arenas to gaurd, the only way to slow sweet lou down is to attack him hard on the offensive end, so its fine if he plays off him just attack him hard down low and on the other end to make him accountable on defense
by o dat boy good on Nov 26, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
It's worth mentioning
that the Wizards are 2-0 this season when Butler is out of the lineup (NJ and Philly).
by disgrunted on Nov 25, 2009 10:12 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Good Call - Rec'd
I just hope that the reason Caron has been playing so poorly has more to do with his lingering ankle issue than anything else. I still want to believe that Caron can positively contribute to this team. Maybe his ankle has caused him to lose confidence in his jump shot, making him want to drive more rather than take the open jumper? I’m stretching, I know.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
Trade Caron for an All-star caliber 2?
Maybe Kevin Martin, Joe Johnson, maybe even Eric Gordon…Start Miller at the 3, Foye, NY as back ups.
Have the offense be Jamison and Gil running the Pick and Roll with shooters on the wings and Haywood in the middle
Super drastic and knee jerk, but on some level makes sense.
Maybe
If we can get those players. I’m not sure if any of them will be able to contribute what Caron used to give us before his injury and/or inflated ego infected his game, though.
"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier
first of all no way Sac will give up KMart or ATL will give up JJ
Not only that but Kmart is a 2, granted a very efficient 2 gaurd, I mean he scores so many points on so few attempts, But the point is we don’t need another 2 gaurd, now if we coudl trade NY, Foye and someone else for Kmart I would do it, but all this trade Caron talk is garbage, he will be fine just takes time to understand flips offense.
Same thing with JJ, he is a ball massager so he will slow the ball movement, he works fine in ATL because he is the man, supposedly in DC Gilbert is the man… (i like to think AJ is), In other news if JJ is a ball massager then Caron is a licensed maseuse, he just needs time to learn to pick and pop instead of the team running a million iso plays for him.
and Please we don’t need another gilbert arenas clone in Eric Gordon,
The problem is not Caron, the problem is Gilbert Arenas, and everyone should see that clear as day, he is just struggling to making a move from lead gaurd into point gaurd, Flip needs to understand that Gilbert is not Chauncy, once he comes to terms with what he has with Gil maybe he should incorporate some of that princeton offense into the fold of his plays (I mean it worked for Eddie Jordan).
I feel that once Gil get’s his touch back on his shot then it won’t even matter anymore because he can just pull up whenever and wherever allowing all the ball massagers on the team to have more room to operate.
by o dat boy good on Nov 26, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldnt even count NJ
I mean you could have probably thrown dominic mcguire at the 2 and still won
by o dat boy good on Nov 26, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
A win is a win is a win...
and this was one meant so much more.
The big question is where do we go from here, and I for one am hopeful that the sun is rising.
Special congratulations have to go to Nick Young for being more than ready when his number was finally called.
nick young lovers
that game should really have gotten you amped. he played well.
by DarrellWalkerFan on Nov 25, 2009 6:25 PM EST reply actions
hes just not that good
at least not now, I mean the whole game I watched him get all excited after every shot he made, he honestly looked like a kid out there (and I don’t mean that it the brett favre still having fun kind of way), did he even score after the 3rd quarter? I feel that his defense wasn’t that good on AI rather AI just laid an egg (which he does tend to do sometimes, I like to think of AI as a bigger rich man’s NY). What i’m trying to say is how will he do when his shots don’t fall? when everybody comes back to the line up? will he still be the same as he was before? I mean when everyone is out and he’s the only option he doe alright (i’m talking about other times as well) but when the lineup becomes crowded what is his job?
I will say though that I remember one play that game that NY did which really made me think that he’s heading for the better, it was when he was on the break and instead of pulling up for a shot in the left corner he passed it back out which led to another pass and a blown layup by Blatche (which AJ cleaned up, BLATCHE JUST DUNK all your shots no layups ever!), but that shows me that he at least understands the game alot better from watching on the bench, I mean when I saw that happen I could have sworn he was going to pull up for a contested J.
Anyway i’m glad I didn’t see deshawn in the game, I couldn’t stand watching him blow another pivotal layup or freethrow.
by o dat boy good on Nov 26, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
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