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Open Thread: Washington Wizards vs. Oklahoma City Thunder, Regular Season Game 11

Washington Wizards at Oklahoma City Thunder, Nov 20, 2009 8:00 PM EST


Brendan Haywood knows what DeAndrew Jordan is going through in this picture.

Chris Carlson - AP

Brendan Haywood knows what DeAndrew Jordan is going through in this picture.

The Essentials:

Wizards (3-7) vs. Thunder (6-6)
8:00 p.m.
Ford Center
TV: CSN+
Radio: 106.7 The Fan

Notable early Thunder numbers this season

13th in expected winning percentage (.565)
24th in pace (91.2 possessions per game)
25th in offensive efficiency/offensive rating (102.3)
6th in defensive efficiency/defensive rating (100.4)

Notable Thunder numbers last season

27th in expected winning percentage (.298)
8th in pace (93.6 possessions per game)
29th in offensive efficiency/offensive rating (102.9)
20th in defensive efficiency/defensive rating (109.4)

Pre-game links

Welcome to Loud City, SB Nation's Thunder Blog
Daily Thunder
Michael Lee: The Other Side: Thunder
GameDay Thunder

Tonight's Projected Starters
Wizards vs. Thunder
Gilbert Arenas
PG Russell Westbrook
Mike Miller
SG Thabo Sefolosha
Caron Butler
SF Kevin Durant
Antawn Jamison
PF Jeff Green
Brendan Haywood
C Nenad Kristic

 

It's late, so real quick:

  • I'm chatting on Comcast Sports Net's Web site here.  Stop by.
  • I'm really surprised to see the Thunder ranked so highly defensively.  Shows you the value of guys like Thabo Sefolosha.
  • Speaking of, matchups will be interesting tonight.  If I'm OKC, I put Durant on Butler, Thabo on Arenas and Westbrook on Miller.  The Wizards' best chance might be to run and catch them in cross-matches.
  • Keep Kevin Durant out of the paint.  He can stroke Js, but he really does damage if he sets everyone else up.  I'd like to see Dominic McGuire get a chance tonight.
  • Antawn Jamison should burn Jeff Green on offense.  Let's hope he gets out on him to the three-point line on defense.
  • Interested in seeing James Harden in person.  I haven't really gotten a good read on him this year.
  • I'm not a big Russell Westbrook fan.  I just don't think he's the right fit next to Durant.  But Gilbert Arenas is going to need to slow him down. 
  • Etan Thomas.  That should be fun.

GO WIZARDS!

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Prediction

Gil will have a breakout shooting game.

by forthepeople on Nov 20, 2009 5:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Prediction

Gil gives up more points that he makes.

by satchmore on Nov 20, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

than he makes, doh

by satchmore on Nov 20, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’d like to see Stevenson, McGuire, and Blatche all get their chances. See what sticks.

by dnk on Nov 20, 2009 7:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i hope etan plays well

hope the wiz break the streak in okc tho

by DarrellWalkerFan on Nov 20, 2009 7:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

you know he's going to be incredibly fired up.

i’m guessing he has a good game.

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 20, 2009 7:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Brendan was right, though

He would’ve started with 30+ min. per game even if Etan had stayed. He’s a better center.

by satchmore on Nov 20, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I call

a fight between Brendan and Etan. Blood in OKC!

Its always Roger Mason (Jr.) time!

by ledellforlife on Nov 20, 2009 7:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

...is this game on tv?

I have FIOS and it’s not showing up in my listings at all. The Caps game is on CSN is right now.

by talha on Nov 20, 2009 7:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

FIOS doesn't have CSN+

Awesome. Off to ustream!

by talha on Nov 20, 2009 7:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

There we go.

It was labeled “FiOS 1” for me. Good looking out, dude.

by talha on Nov 20, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

cavs-pacers is pretty entertaining so far.

hansborough v. varejao is fun to watch

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 20, 2009 7:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Prada

you still got “Crabdribble” in the post. Should say Thunder

by corruptparty on Nov 20, 2009 8:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I just have a test pattern

Though I’m not sure they’ve tipped off yet

Ridiculous Upside, where developing talent and winning are not mutually exclusive.

by Jon L on Nov 20, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

anyone with nba broadband

i’m getting the rainbow bars with high tone so far.

by corruptparty on Nov 20, 2009 8:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm getting it, too

boo

"...at some point, when u r screaming for more minutes for Pecherov, you have to ask yourselves this question: 'If you keep adding more pineapple to a 'Papa Johns Pizza with Pineapple', when does it become a Papa Johns Pineapple with Pizza???'"

by Gilbert4SpaceJam2 on Nov 20, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

boo indeed

amateurs out there in OKC. seattle would never have let this happen

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 20, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

still happening right?

this stinks. I’m relegated to listening to the radio feed

by corruptparty on Nov 20, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah still no luck.

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 20, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

maybe i'll pull a gil

and change at half time if things aren’t working out

by corruptparty on Nov 20, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone got this game in HD?

This is killing me.

My swag was phenomenal.

by se7en on Nov 20, 2009 8:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nope

Gotta deal with the fuzziness

by Matt K. on Nov 20, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

God, it's brutal, right?

Maybe, I’m just spoiled by HD, but doesn’t CSN+’s feed look worse than regular SD? I’m having trouble telling who is who on the Thunder sometimes.

by whippb on Nov 20, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mike

Can you ask about the different defensive lineups the team could use? Do they see themselves going with a Haywood/McGee frontcourt, or a Miller/Butler backcourt, if the situation warrants it?

by Pryme on Nov 20, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think this is a glaring weakness of the Wizards....

The starters have skill but lack athleticism – which is a problem considering this is a professional league and you’re kind of expected to have both.

by mogoman on Nov 21, 2009 9:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

goddammit league pass

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 20, 2009 8:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Is anyone watching the game online right now?

LP Broadband still isn’t working…

"...at some point, when u r screaming for more minutes for Pecherov, you have to ask yourselves this question: 'If you keep adding more pineapple to a 'Papa Johns Pizza with Pineapple', when does it become a Papa Johns Pineapple with Pizza???'"

by Gilbert4SpaceJam2 on Nov 20, 2009 8:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

it's working now

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 20, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There's that

Arenas to Jamison combo we’ve been missing.

by bigrm18 on Nov 20, 2009 8:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Where is it written that the Wiz

have to spot there opponent a ten point lead

by ccrun1800 on Nov 20, 2009 8:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Been an unofficial policy

for the past three years or so. Before that was the “second quarter breakdown” clause.

by Pryme on Nov 20, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Buckhantz is so right...

You cant teach that shot Twan has….such great touch.

by KevinE on Nov 20, 2009 8:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Very indecisive play

By Caron, but he did hit the three right there.

by bigrm18 on Nov 20, 2009 8:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

At least he made it, though.

by Matt K. on Nov 20, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Another 3 by Caron

He just might be back.

by bigrm18 on Nov 20, 2009 8:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

since i can't watch this one

i’m checking cavs-pacers. jebron is still complaining any time some one stops him, you’ll be glad to know

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 20, 2009 8:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jamison's release is

Ridiculously quick. (no pun intended)

by bigrm18 on Nov 20, 2009 8:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

League Pass is working now!

"...at some point, when u r screaming for more minutes for Pecherov, you have to ask yourselves this question: 'If you keep adding more pineapple to a 'Papa Johns Pizza with Pineapple', when does it become a Papa Johns Pineapple with Pizza???'"

by Gilbert4SpaceJam2 on Nov 20, 2009 8:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

OKC plays soooooo small

Can Mcgee just get a little run out Flip. Please!

by ccrun1800 on Nov 20, 2009 8:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jamison's set to come back in

hope it’s for Miller; he’s hold his arm to the side again.

by Pryme on Nov 20, 2009 8:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

they play noticably slower when arenas is in

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 20, 2009 8:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i feel like he played better

during his twogame stint last season

by morethesamewiz on Nov 20, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well

he’s turning the ball over a lot this season, missing the big shots, and seems to have a dramatically lower success rate driving in the paint than in previous seasons

by morethesamewiz on Nov 20, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They need a better rebounding squad out there

and Miller can’t really help with that if he’s still favoring his arm.

by Pryme on Nov 20, 2009 9:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Mike Miller had both feet inside the circle..

Should have been a call on us if anything

by KevinE on Nov 20, 2009 9:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

thanks league pass

for completely sucking tonight

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 20, 2009 9:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

way to choke away a game, raptors

we could have used a miami loss tonight.

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 20, 2009 9:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Amazing

Our FG% is actually higher than OKC.

by Pryme on Nov 20, 2009 9:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

true

but if that more due to our shooting or our defense?

by Pryme on Nov 20, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was trying to make sense of the box score myself

Per the stats it doesnt look like w should be down by 7.

by ccrun1800 on Nov 20, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

if it wasn't for the 3pt% and FT%

I’d say we were playing ourselves.

by Pryme on Nov 20, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Miller isn't the only warrior

Buckhantz is battling through this telecast.

by Matt K. on Nov 20, 2009 9:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I swear

everytime Miller takes a hit, it’s in that arm.

by Pryme on Nov 20, 2009 9:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Buck is tough but fair

by Aldo on Nov 20, 2009 9:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

C'mon Arenas

 now’s not the time to be loosing the ball

by Pryme on Nov 20, 2009 9:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This would be the third time we got it down to 1

and then we let them pull away. great timeout

by ccrun1800 on Nov 20, 2009 9:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

suck it, league pass

it is no longer half time, you know

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 20, 2009 9:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

league pass is fakin tonight.

"...at some point, when u r screaming for more minutes for Pecherov, you have to ask yourselves this question: 'If you keep adding more pineapple to a 'Papa Johns Pizza with Pineapple', when does it become a Papa Johns Pineapple with Pizza???'"

by Gilbert4SpaceJam2 on Nov 20, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wide open three

what’d Miller do there, turning his back on the shooter?

by morethesamewiz on Nov 20, 2009 9:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Here we go again cutting into the lead

The Wiz are being such a tease tonight

by ccrun1800 on Nov 20, 2009 9:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Because I cant see the game...

I cant figure out what the heck is going on. I feel like everytime i refresh the score is drastically different

by Carlos Returns on Nov 20, 2009 9:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What awful defense on that OKC fast break

wow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Nov 20, 2009 9:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Caron was in no-man's land

I’m officially tired of him tonight.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 20, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That last offensive possession blew

Stevenson almost throws it out of bounds and then Blatche takes a deep contested jumper like 8 seconds into the possession. How about some ball movement, damn

by morethesamewiz on Nov 20, 2009 9:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

There's still plenty of time.

They just need to settle down

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Nov 20, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

OKC has maybe two big runs left in them

and if the Wiz don’t pull to a basket, tie, or take the lead in the next 5-7 minutes of this game, they may be done.

by Pryme on Nov 20, 2009 9:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Too many fouls

Seriously, I know these guys are hot, but let Westbrook shoot! Don’t foul him.

Caron had a really bad quarter there. I’m officially tired of him (tonight at least).

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 20, 2009 9:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

not able to watch

but it seemed like, once again, defense was all about fouling for the Wiz that period

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 20, 2009 9:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I looked up and saw the Wizards with the ball down 1

and the next time I look up its 11. Dammit!

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Nov 20, 2009 9:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

God these guys just don't miss

Even when it is a long shot like that.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 20, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don't get this current lineup

It’s not our best defensive one, or our best offensive one. It’s not our biggest, or smallest, or even most “energetic.” It just..is.

by Pryme on Nov 20, 2009 10:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If Harden had been available at #5

I’d be cursing a lot right now. He’d be great in a backcourt with Gil (as many of us were saying back in June).

by disgrunted on Nov 20, 2009 10:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

doesn't look like it's worth it

but for League Pass people, i found the Wiz game – listed under Dallas-SAC

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 20, 2009 10:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yeah i really wish i hadn't found it

ugh. horrendous 10 second stretch.

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 20, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Haven't had anythign to drink tonight

but still feel the need to stick my finger down my throat

by morethesamewiz on Nov 20, 2009 10:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The no defense wiz are at it again

This jeckell and hyde thing is killing me

by ccrun1800 on Nov 20, 2009 10:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Flip is beginning to develop a nice

“I Coach The Wizards” Face.

by Pryme on Nov 20, 2009 10:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Whats the excuse now?

We can’t really blame injuries anymore. Is our new line going to revolve around the learning curve with a new coach and system?

by morethesamewiz on Nov 20, 2009 10:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

they'll blame the system

probably make a joke about needing to play Cleveland a few more times.

by Pryme on Nov 20, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Most futile job in the world

Food service for the Wizards locker room. I think it might be a while before Jamison lets anyone snack after the game.

by morethesamewiz on Nov 20, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How many and 1's has Gilbert gotten this year?

Seems like his kamikaze drives have landed a lot fewer and 1’s than in the past

by morethesamewiz on Nov 20, 2009 10:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

arenas cannot jump

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Nov 20, 2009 10:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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