Open Thread: Cleveland CrabDribbles vs. Washington Wizards, Regular Season Game 10
by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2009 3:50 PM EST
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The Essentials:
CrabDribbles (8-3) vs. Wizards (2-7)
7:00 p.m.
Verizon Center
TV: ESPN
Radio: 106.7 The Fan
Notable Early CrabDribbles numbers this season
6th in expected winning percentage (.682)
16th in pace (92.4 possessions per game)
11th in offensive efficiency/offensive rating (107.7)
10th in defensive efficiency/defensive rating (102)
Notable CrabDribbles numbers last season
1st in expected winning percentage (.787)
25th in pace (88.7 possessions per game)
4th in offensive efficiency/offensive rating (112.4)
3rd in defensive efficiency/defensive rating (102.4)
Pre-game links
Fear the Sword, SB Nation's CrabDribbles Blog
Cavs The Blog
Stepien Rules, a Cleveland CrabDribbles Blog
Waiting For Next Year, the best site on the Net for the CrabDribbles (and all Cleveland sports)
Fear the Sword season preview
Competition Discussion: Cleveland CrabDribbles
Michael Lee: The Other Side: CrabDribbles
Brian Windhorst updates us on Cleveland's injuries
Eric Mangini wants LeBron to play for Browns - why is this a story, ESPN?
GameDay CrabDribbles
| Tonight's Projected Starters | ||
|---|---|---|
| CrabDribbles | vs. | Wizards |
| Mo Williams |
PG | Gilbert Arenas |
| Anthony Parker |
SG | Mike Miller |
| LeBron James |
SF | Caron Butler |
| J.J. Hickson |
PF | Antawn Jamison |
| Zydrunas Ilgauskas |
C | Brendan Haywood |
UPDATE: Fabricio Oberto is out tonight with a hamstring injury, says Flip Saunders.
The good news? Cleveland is coming into DC on a second night of a back-to-back after struggling to put away Golden State last night, while the Wizards haven't played since Saturday.
The better news? Shaquille O'Neal, who killed the Wizards when these two teams last played, will not play due to a shoulder injury. Some are speculating that maybe he's sitting to avoid having to talk about the Gilbert Arenas fiancee rumors, because the Cavs are being pretty coy about his specific injury. Nevertheless, he's out.
The even better news? Anderson Varejao, perpetually a thorn in everyone's side when he plays, will also miss tonight's game, as might Jamario Moon. As we all know, Cleveland's also without Delonte West.
The even better news? The Wizards are healthy. Randy Foye is officially listed as questionable, but he's expected to play according to Mike Jones. The Wizards' expected seven best players (Arenas, Jamison, Butler, Haywood, Foye, Miller and Blatche) will finally be on the court at the same time this season.
The best news? Sam Cassell turned 40 today. Happy Birthday, Sammy!
The bad news? There is none. This is a game the Wizards need and it's a game that's ripe for the picking. A win will be a huge confidence boost; a loss will be a big downer. I'll never talk about "must-wins" in November, but this one is important. Very important.
GO WIZARDS!
(Oh, and Cavs fans, relax. The CrabDribbles thing is a joke. Let it go).
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Don't let them off easy
Wiz fans just dont like the crab dribblers. Especially when you log onto the WWL and see this article about Bron-Bron.
LOL
Can you see LeBaby playing Pro Football….. ?
I can see the referees giving him a flag for unsportsmanlike conduct (for pulling his helmet off and checking his lip for blood) every time someone hit him….
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That exactly what I said
when I posted it on my FB page. Lebron taking a hit and just getting up and trotting back to the huddle. Just the thought of it makes me laugh
That article is absurd.
I love where it says “He has no serious plans of returning to football.” Then why write an article about it?? Shameless, espn.
All the odds are in the Wiz's favor
If they can’t pull of a win tonight, I think they can officially be written off as scrubs.
Is referring to the Cavs as “CrabDribbles” really the BEST you can come up with? Is this what NBA basketball has been reduced to in our nation’s capital? I would say you are focusing on the rivalry too much, but I think the Wiz need to at least put a decent product on the floor before this can truly be a “rivalry”
Well hey, just focus on the positive…. Gilbert Arenas can only be dignified for so long. Its only a matter of time before he’s back to being an attention hungry sideshow and providing some non-basketball entertainment for Wiz fans
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Nov 18, 2009 5:05 PM EST reply actions
This is commonly referred to as "trolling"
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
may i add
please BF community do not feed the trolls.
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
just personal preference - i have no power to mandate anything
i grow weary of on-line trash talk, in sports, politics, whatever.
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
That is so difficult Mr Colter
I have so many things bouncing around in my head about Bron Bron and the Crabdribblers but i’ll resist
seeing the projected starting lineup
makes me very happy. i’m really hoping gilbert goes into full-on assist mode, trusts in everyone else to score, and only takes open jumpers.
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2009 5:37 PM EST reply actions
Re: Crabdribbles
I don’t mind it at all, or blame you for losing it-it’s one of those times where a perfect storm is created for a sports insult. It’s absolutely amazing. Sometimes I forget to get mad because I’m in awe of the sheer perfection of it-it combines so many things about what drives this rivalry so incredibly. It’s the Nautilus shell of sports insults.
by John Krolik on Nov 18, 2009 6:06 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Now, if only Cavs fans have something similar to refer to the Wizards by
Maybe “Washington SouljaBoys?” I’m lost here.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Considering how many Cavs fans see us
and the fact that this is basketball, you’re missing the obvious moniker.
3.5 is the over-under
on how many times LeBron scowls and/or argues with the referees, about a “non” call.
1.5 is the over – under on the number of times James touches his lip looking for blood.
I say OVER on the referee argument/scowling
I say OVER on the looking for blood
What say you BF community? Weigh in. What’s your prediction – over or under?
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yes
I hope bwoodz is watching… I may need his expertise in determining if it’s a “false anger”, or “confusion” – – – – I get those two mixed up…
but I’ll be tracking these “special” statistics tonight.
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I take the OVER on both
The comment on the looking for blood thing is SPOT ON and completely hilarious. This is something I’ve always noticed him doing, but I’ve never seen anyone comment on it before.
by Manimal Smith on Nov 18, 2009 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
I be switching between both channels
always interesting to see how each set of commentators interpret the game.
I do that sometimes...
but if I remember correctly, the crabs’ announcers are awful. I would like to see some Ball Don’t Lie or Deadspin article ranking them all. Would be Interesting to see their “bias” rankings.
"McGee is just flying all over the place. He’s like a condor." -Stacey King
Yeah, I can't stand their announcing team
But this is an ESPN game with Hubie Brown, which is always great.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Oh good.
Not just that it’s Hubie Brown, but that it’s not Doug Collins.
Ridiculous Upside, where developing talent and winning are not mutually exclusive.
"You've just got to close him out"
After Gil hit that 35 foot 3 to send that playoff game against LeTravelliers into overtime.
by Manimal Smith on Nov 18, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
I cant figure out if its a good or bad thing
that AJ first game is against the Crabdribblers. Thoughts?
Agreed...
He creates match up problems for most teams, but especially the Cavs…
They’ll either have to play LeBron on Jamison, or JJ Hickson, or Darnell Jackson (who???)…… I hope they play James at PF, …it will make him work on the Defensive end…
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If its the AJ of old then im feeling great
but we have seen the stars on this team having issues finding there place in Flips offense. I just hopes thats not the case with AJ.
Nice move by Miller
I wish he hadn’t hesitated first, but I’ll take it.
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JJ Hickson
has no idea what Jamison’s offensive game looks like. Caught him completely off guard with that flip shot.
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Two quick fouls on Hickson
Cavs going to their small lineup now.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Does he need to?
I think he should let this lineup get into a rhythm together and make Mike Brown match him rather than try to react to what Brown’s doing.
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Caron got backpicked there
Not sure why Caron doesn’t stay on LeBron. Have Jamison guard Moon, for all I care.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Poor job of showing by Butler there
He flashed out on Ilgauskas but it was done so quickly before getting back that he may as well not have bothered.
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Miller just did the same thing
only Ilgauskas missed this time. So maybe that’s part of Saunders’s defensive scheme?
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Well
Would you rather have a wide-open corner 3 or Z shooting a long two?
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Jamison looks like he's trying to make up for lost time.
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Haywood's sitting after that nice hustle play
Blatche is in. That’s a bit odd to me. Maybe Haywood’s winded.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
I would guess
that Saunders wants to get Blatche warmed up and make sure he doesn’t sit the entire quarter, and Jamison is playing so well right now he can’t get taken out.
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Great awareness by Haywood
to pull his legs off the baseline as soon as he touched the basketball. Hubie’s making an interesting point that the Wizards need to start getting him involved offensively. I’m sort of inclined to agree but Jamison is killing it right now.
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That's Caron's fault
He went for the offensive rebound instead of getting back to pick up LeBron. Gotta have better floor balance.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Had to change it because of my new gig with SBNation.com
If you’re writing for the front page, you need a real picture.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
I figured it was something like that.
I was looking for Gheorghe though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
Happy to be watching
And happy to see a full team out there for once. Wizards on my tv (and the great Hubie as well) and Uruguay-Costa Rica on my computer!
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2009 7:32 PM EST reply actions
There's another one
James giving the ref a look after a call!
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2009 7:34 PM EST reply actions
Apparently Delonte West is playing
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Fans saw THAT travel
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by Rook6980 on Nov 18, 2009 7:36 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Taser coming in
Am I right in thinking the lineup is now Arenas-Foye-Butler-Taser-Blatche?
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Okay, that was Boykins not Foye
Still an odd lineup.
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Well the last 4 minutes of that quarter was plum awful
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2009 7:39 PM EST reply actions
Where's the defense?
Jamison can go for 60 but we need to stop them on the other end if we wanna win this game. truly awful d
I'm very, very surprised that Boykins is playing over Foye
He’s starting the second quarter too. What gives?
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
godammit
they look turrible
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2009 7:46 PM EST reply actions
It's still on national TV
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how many jumpers have been blocked?
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2009 7:52 PM EST reply actions
Flip's going back to his starters very early in the second
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Have either Haywood or Blatche gotten a pass yet?
I feel like they’ve both only touched the ball off of rebounds so far.
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Sam Cassell and Gilbert are talking now
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Now they want to play
It seems like this teams feeds solely off there offense if the shots aren’t falling we look so flat.
Miller's a part of it
He’s bringing a lot of energy,and took a rebound away from LeBron a few minutes ago.
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Heck of a pass to Haywood
Lets hope BTH can make a foul shot!
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
Saunders must’ve told him he’s not getting back in this half.
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Between the hair, the half t-shirt and the knee brace
Mike Miller looks like a rec league player. Has that been said before?
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The plus/minuses for the Wiz starters vs. the reserves are going to be crazy tonight
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
They need to start feeding Haywood in the post
He’s picking up fouls and causing problems.
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I meant he's drawing fouls.
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Haha LeBron gets called for it
Another gesture towards the ref!
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2009 8:08 PM EST reply actions
That might have been the worst call ever
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Flip clearly mouthed
That’s bulls**t
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions
what the hell was that gilbert?
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2009 8:10 PM EST reply actions
Now that's transition D
everyone got back in time to make Cleveland pull it back. The Wizards are still having problems with that whole “rotating” thing, however.
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Oy, Caron just let him go right by
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Caron has apparently forgotten how to hit layups
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Man, Butler can't buy a FG.
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damn
Would’ve felt a lot better down 4 at the half.
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
gil missed miller
he was open for 2 seconds before gil found him
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2009 8:14 PM EST reply actions
Cavs gonna run out of gas
Wiz did what they needed to and got back in it. Now they just have to play hard for 24 minutes. They need to push extra hard though to get a decent lead so the Lebron crunchtime automagic fouls at the end won’t matter.
I know there's been too much ball movement in the past
but I’d like to see a little more ball movement out of Jamison in the second half. He’s been shooting fairly well, but he’s also been shooting pretty much as soon as he gets the ball.
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That's kind of what he does though
I’d like to see Haywood get some touches. Then, I’d like to Gil drive to the rim.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Love Antawn's line thus far
21 and 10 rebounds, 2 assists. Haywood’s got 10 rebounds already, and they’re out rebounding the Cavs 28 to 22. Of course, they have more to rebound, with those bricks they’ve been chucking.
Jamison is 1-5 on threes, though, and he’s had his shot blocked twice. (plus he only has 8 rebounds)
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You KNOW the Wizards won’t get the benefit of the Free Throws in the 2nd half…
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The referees started “evening” things up at the end of the second quarter…. with a couple of questionable calls on the Wizards.
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not buying it tonight
there will be questionable calls in every game. there are so many issues with the wiz tonight, refereeing is not even in the top 20.
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
fair enough
and now that it’s back to even, if they lose, it’s on the refs
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
I'm really, really concerned about the bench guys
None of them did anything. Blatche never touched the ball. Foye barely played. Boykins pounded and pounded and pounded.
The starters can’t play forever.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Yeah...
Foye is probably still injured. But I wonder about Blatche? I think Flip needs to schedule an intervention for Butler and Arenas. Or maybe a summit. A Gatorade summit?
Blatche not getting touches isn't really on him though
I’d like to see Foye get a little more time
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I don't 100% agree with that
They aren’t isolating him and letting him take his man off the dribble. I’d like to see at least some of that.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
that was a carry,
followed nicely by a double dribble
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
Butler being indecisive again.
Those headfakes aren’t working, guy.
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Mike Miller is such a good fit here
I like the two plays they ran where they took Gil off the ball and let Mike facilitate.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
So is he our Lamar Odom
Except without the size to play the 4?
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
sort of
MUCH MUCH MUCH better shooter
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
According to Hubie, Miller is closer to 6'8" or 6'9"
which puts him about the same size as Jamison. I don’t want him playing the 4, though, hopefully that craziness left with EJ.
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nice miller
but WTF was that attempt at a finish from gilbert? he looks truly awful tonight, i hate to say
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2009 8:39 PM EST reply actions
It looked like he was trying to draw the foul more than make the layup
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He used to pull that move all the time before he got hurt
He just doesn’t quite have the legs now to do it.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
LeBron has one of each kind of “Look” so far this game…. Pretty good odds he’ll go over the 3.5 OVER-UNDER number
1 "Look of Confusion,"
1 "Look of False Anger"
1 “Look of Disbelief”
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Wizards took the lead – Time for the referees to step in -
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Good job contesting the shot
from Mike Miller
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2009 8:45 PM EST reply actions
Arenas is clearly going into scorer mode.
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That was tipped by Ilgauskas!
How was that not over and back!
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2009 8:48 PM EST reply actions
Gils shoes
Did anyone else notice Gil had black shoes in the first half? Now he has black shoes on???
shine like bald head, smoke trees call me log head
They're blowing a perfect opportunity
They’re exhausted, and we’re letting James bury us with threes. Get up on him Caron!
Hey look at that
DeShawn actually got up on him. He still didn’t drive.
Once Deshawn was guarding Lebron
there was no chance Lebron was going to pass.
by hotplate on Nov 18, 2009 8:54 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
LeBron's taking Cleveland out of their offensive rhythm
Just as I thought – those two threes made him cocky.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Or that bout of offensive rhythm they had is a fluke
This looks like the normal Cleveland offense to me
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Ball don't like on that possession!
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
I mean lie!
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
deshawn
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2009 8:59 PM EST reply actions
It's almost as if LeBron just wants to show DeShawn up out there
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
yeah maybe that's the upside to his crazy
you know no matter how much jebron says he doesn’t think about it, he does.
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
Wonder if Foye gets back in there
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There is he again!
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Dray!
automatic at the line
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2009 9:01 PM EST reply actions
Gilbert is missing Mike Miller in the corner everytime
At least he’s scoring though.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Like he would get the call against LeBron
You are right when its other players he’s guarding.
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
or tackle
not in a malicious way – just be sure he has to make 2 free throws and not an and-1
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
Gil at the end of quarters
Is starting to just dribble out the clock and jack up a tough 3. That’s okay when there’s just a few seconds left, but when there’s time run a friggin play!
Did “Boobie” Gibson get a steel plate put in his head?
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Something must really be wrong with Foye
Boykins back out there at PG
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He's 5-7 tonight.
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Earl!
Love that spin!
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2009 9:10 PM EST reply actions
Caron got the foul
but I didn’t like the move.
Great cut by Blatche to get to the open area
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Earl's played well this quarter
Keeps proving me wrong.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Great defense by Blatche fronting Z!
He’s played great this half.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
your team has a 20-12 advantage on fouls maybe you should pay closer attention to the game instead of crying so much about how unfair the refs are to the Whizzers
Who's taking it to the rim more?
Seems like you are stretching to grab something as you have no legs to stand on.
yet
I have had to listen to an ENTIRE game with Hubie doing everything but giving LeBron a foot rub…
Its always Roger Mason (Jr.) time!
Now apply pressure to throat
Until opponent stops resisting.
They stopped doing everything that was successful… If The Cavs lose this game it was because of their “we have a big lead, let’s jack up threes” attitude…been doing that for three games before this one….give your team credit for taking advantage of it
by cavslandrocks on Nov 18, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but you guys will be back
We were well-rested, you guys just played Golden State. I wouldn’t worry too much.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
I’m more worried about no one (coaches and players)recognizing that they are p!$$ing away big leads every game…or not seemingly caring about it
by cavslandrocks on Nov 18, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
williams tried a couple times
but yeah, that would seem to be a good option
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
He's strong and quick
Might just be easier to shoot over him.
They did and it didn't work
I’m cool with it. Takes them out of their offense. Call it the “Don Nelson theory of mismatches.”
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
What I’m struck by is the fact that for the first time in many many years – the Wizards can bring guys off the bench who can actually play….
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No more Arvis Hayes, Michael Ruffin and Etan Thomas….
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wow
run with dsteve, boykins, miller and blatche
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2009 9:23 PM EST reply actions
It was a bit of a ticky-tack foul
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
DeShawn Stevenson does have a purpose!
Getting LeBron to think about himself instead of the team.
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2009 9:26 PM EST reply actions
A Mike Brown tech to go with it
What a beautiful sight!
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
The amazing thing about tonight:
The Wizards pulled away with a lineup of Boykins, Miller, DeShawn, Blatche and Caron. Wow.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
It would be funny to hear the Cavs fans complain about . . .
refereeing and injuries. Makes a nice change from us having to do it!
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2009 9:29 PM EST reply actions
I don’t know about any of the others but that’s part of the game….they started coasting after the 17 point lead and fell asleep….the Cavs deserve this loss
by cavslandrocks on Nov 18, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
Are you watching the game?
He’s forcing James into some terrible decisions.
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seriously???
deshawn has made a MAJOR impact in this game!!!!
by SkinsWizStangs on Nov 18, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
This is why we have DS
he plays above average D on bigger 2’s and 3’s and does little stuff. I don’t care if he gets burnt by bynum or Gordon thats not his role. I realize how bad he has looked at times but people should lay off him a bit.
by BayAreaBullet on Nov 18, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
Overall I think the “it’s not a rivalry if one team keeps winning” people have a point, but you can’t watch how James behaves with Stevenson guarding him and not think he cares about these games.
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They both ran to Miller and left Caron wide open
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
To quote one of my favorite sports announcers
Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!! Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2009 9:31 PM EST reply actions
That's a bad call
No way that’s a jump ball.
(See Cavs fans, we can admit it).
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Wow, that looked like a foul to me...
But you gotta give Stevenson credit — he’s definitely in Lebron’s head
This is the problem with stolen nicknames
I thought LaDanian Tomlinson had been busted for cocaine once too.
Does the rim get called for the foul?
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by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
"Here comes the dunk contest!"
Great, they’re still losing by double-digits.
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thank you
a couple of baskets were most needed
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2009 9:38 PM EST reply actions
Did Jamison's 3
Get a “Dagger?”
by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Nov 18, 2009 9:38 PM EST reply actions
too bad
but it was still nice in my head
by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Nov 18, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
What are the chances
that Shaq pulls the whole “they still haven’t beaten me” routine before the next WAS-CLE game?
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It really feels like forever since the Wiz won
Damn this feels good!
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2009 9:40 PM EST reply actions
According to Twitter
(PDCavsinsider via Bomani Jones), he’s had a hurt left wrist for a few weeks but the dunk may have aggravated it.
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THAT is anything but what a basketball fan would say…no one should wish harm on any teams players
by cavslandrocks on Nov 18, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
no you're right
i now love lebron, and wish no adversity on him. GO CAVS! no please leave
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
Okay, I should probably take that back
The rest of the Bullets Forever folks have a lot more class than I do and I have never seen anyone here celebrate an injury. However, I can’t help but relish a guy hurting his hand while trying to sock it to the Wizards fans and players to put a damper on a great victory. IF that’s wrong, well then I don’t want to be right. Besides its a hand injury not a serious leg injury, and the guys worth like half a billion dollars so no member of his family will go hungry if he can’t play 10 or 20 games.
by morethesamewiz on Nov 18, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
Believe it or not I think he should be playing more
I think he’d compliments LeBron’s game pretty well
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Standing ovation in my living room!
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2009 9:42 PM EST reply actions
MIssed all but the end
time to read all of the comments
by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Nov 18, 2009 9:42 PM EST reply actions
so - in a way
deshawn injured jebrons hand. good. he didn’t even have to resort to violence to do it.
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2009 9:42 PM EST reply actions
Cleveland’s offense really, really sucks…. I didn’t see any motion… Looks like they reverted back to 2007-2008 form….
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I don't think that's a coincidence
John Kuester, who designed last year’s offense, is gone.
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to be fair
they were missing a couple of key pieces. but i don’t know if varejao and shaq facilitate ball movement much
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by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
They were really, really good in the first half
I was quite impressed. Then, LeBron hit two threes and decided he would just do his thing and freeze out everyone.
It was like night and day.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
very very intersting that arenas sat out the 4th
i know jamison and haywood did too (mostly) – but man, i did not expect that
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2009 9:45 PM EST reply actions
Flip said Gilbert actually suggested keeping Boykins in
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
So – was it really good Wizard’s defense?
Or – was it a really, really bad Cleveland Offensive system..?
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Bit of both
But the game really seemed to turn when Lebron started trying to prove something against Stevenson.
Mostly B
There offense wasn’t that great last year and now its back to abysmal.
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
Butler down the stretch!
Nice to see Caron turn it around in the final 3 minutes. Hope he can carry it over to next game.
Wore them out
Cavs started getting tired in the 2nd (back to back). You could see it, and the Wiz capitalized big time. Miller totally got things started with his threes and effort. He was MVP tonight.
Offensively Jamison looks capable if a 40 point game. (he had 50 at Golden State)
Deshawn obliterated the Queen on defense.
I kept telling every1 stop flippin out wait til we get all our players back. No one listened. Now they listen.
Bring the heat back I wanna give them some washington ak47 bullets
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