Washington Wizards vs. Miami Heat: Regular Season Game 8 Open Thread
by Mike Prada on Nov 10, 2009 4:16 PM EST
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PrintWashington Wizards at Miami Heat, Nov 10, 2009 7:30 PM EST
UPDATE 2: Maybe Gilbert's up to his old tricks apparently, because Comcast just reported that he's going to play after all.
UPDATE: Gilbert Arenas will not play tonight due to a sore calf. A sore calf? What? Also, Andray Blatche is starting.
The Essentials:
Wizards (2-5) vs. Heat (5-1)
7:30 p.m.
American Airlines Center
TV: CSN
Radio: 106.7 The Fan
Notable very early Heat numbers this season
T2nd in expected winning percentage (.833)
23rd in pace (93.2 possessions per game)
13th in offensive efficiency/offensive rating (105.7)
4th in defensive efficiency/defensive rating (94.6)
Notable Heat numbers last season
14th in expected winning percentage (.509)
22nd in pace (89.9 possessions per game)
20th in offensive efficiency/offensive rating (107.8)
11th in defensive efficiency/defensive rating (107.6)
Pre-game links
Peninsula is Mightier, SB Nation's Heat Blog
Hot Hot Hoops, a Miami Heat blog
Peninsula is Mightier: Contributions from all over have Heat off to best start in a decade
Ira Winderman's blog for the Miami Sun-Sentinel
Michael Lee: The Other Side: Heat
GameDay Miami
| Tonight's Projected Starters | ||
|---|---|---|
| Wizards | vs. | Heat |
| Gilbert Arenas |
PG | Mario Chalmers |
| Randy Foye |
SG | Dwyane Wade |
| Caron Butler |
SF | Quentin Richardson |
| Andray Blatche |
PF | Michael Beasley |
| Brendan Haywood |
C | Jermaine O'Neal |
We all remember Miami from last week, so I don't think there's too much need to go way in-depth about them. You pretty much know what you're going to get from Miami. A brilliant performance from Dwyane Wade, an uneven performance from Michael Beasley that features some highs and some lows, some underrated play by Udonis Haslem, some designed post-ups for Jermaine O'Neal that end badly, excellent defense all around and Wade with the ball in his hands when it's close. If Miami is hitting threes, they win. If they aren't, they have trouble scoring and the game will be ugly. No matter what, though, you can't expect Miami to beat itself. They always come prepared, and they always make you beat them.
The Heat are 5-1, and the guys over at Peninsula is Mightier are giddy, but it's very early in the season. Their schedule overall has been pretty weak (three of their five wins have been over Indiana, New York and Chicago), though they do have a big statement win over Denver on their resume. We should have expected a fast start from Miami -- eight of their first ten games this season are home games, and only three of those games are against playoff teams from last year. Meanwhile, according to Jeff Sagarin's ratings, the Wizards have played by far the toughest schedule in basketball. All I'm trying to say is ... Heat fans, tap the breaks. It's still very early, and the schedule turns for both teams.
That said, a win tonight will be tough. Miami's a very good home team, and Mike Miller and Antawn Jamison still aren't back. It'll be interesting to see how the Wizards go after Dwyane Wade tonight. He got whatever he wanted against Miller and Randy Foye last time, but DeShawn Stevenson did a much better job on him, and Dominic McGuire has shown some defensive chops in the limited minutes he's received. If Stevenson plays a lot, though, then the offense suffers because Stevenson is such a poor offensive player. With the offense struggling, can you afford that lack of production out there?
What would I do? I'd start Randy Foye, put him on Quentin Richardson and play Caron Butler on Wade. Richardson's got a major size advantage on Foye, but all Richardson does is shoot threes anyway, so it doesn't make a major difference.
Other things to watch tonight:
- The last time these two teams played, Brendan Haywood did a great job preventing Jermaine O'Neal from making much of an offensive impact. O'Neal's still an elite help defender, so he did some good things, but Haywood really dominated him on the glass and when Miami had the ball. The Wizards need a similar performance from Haywood tonight.
- Udonis Haslem's really been a stabilizing presence for Miami's bench all season, and had a big game on the glass last time these two teams played. Either Andray Blatche needs to do a better job making sure he boxes Haslem out, or Flip Saunders needs to consider starting Blatche and bringing Oberto off the bench to match up with Haslem.
- Key to the game: Driving to the basket. Miami has defended the three better than any team in basketball this year (38.1% eFG% against), and are also great at defending long jumpers (35.5 FG%, right ahead of Washington, in fact), but they aren't as good defending the rim (19th in eFG% against for layups and dunks). This is where Gilbert Arenas had the right idea last time, but he should still try to spread the ball around and give others a chance to attack the rim too.
Game's at 7:30 tonight. GO WIZARDS!
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Stevenson
Can I get some support for a cause? I want to watch Stevenson’s defense closely this game and really figure out whether he’s a good defender, an average defender, or a less-than average defender. I really think he’s at best average and more likely less-than-average, but y’all keep telling me I’m wrong. Let’s really pay attention and see — who’s with me?
My opening salvo: So far this season, 82Games says Stevenson has the worst (highest) opposition production and the worst defensive floor time stats on the team. Score one for me.
“What would I do? I’d start Randy Foye, put him on Quentin Richardson and play Caron Butler on Wade. Richardson’s got a major size advantage on Foye, but all Richardson does is shoot threes anyway, so it doesn’t make a major difference.”
I agree 100%. No one can do worse on Richardson than Caron Butler anyway.
If Foye does start
It’ll be interesting to see who the first SG off the bench is.
Ridiculous Upside, where developing talent and winning are not mutually exclusive.
Time off...
We don’t play again until Saturday, and the next game after that is Wednesday. I say/hope we plan on playing the starters 40 minutes.
Dominate them
…with size. Arenas, Butler, Oberto, Blatche and Haywood. We have to try something new.
It's odd to say this but...
our key player is Andray Blatche. He’s the only guy on the team who can provide offense at the 4 or 5 spot. We really need to play him 40 minutes a night because the offense falls apart when Oberto and Haywood team up together. Unfortunately, Blatche just can’t manage to last 40 minutes.
It might help to start him. It’s much easier to play two 10-minute stretches per half with a 4-minute rest (plus the quarter break) to rest, then it is to sit out for the first 6 minutes of each half and then play 18 straight minutes.
That's a good point
I think the Oberto starting thing should stop. Dray’s proven he deserves more responsibility.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Apparently Grover is there checking him out
That’s not a good sign.
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that's definitely eye-brow raising
god this team needs some good luck.
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
And now for a reverse jinx attempt
No Antawn? No Miller? No Gil?
Is it even worth watching tonight?
It's not real
Where did you find it?
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
it's real if you believe in it!
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
I don't remember if I saw that...
…here or on one of J.E. Skeets’ posts on balldontlie or basketball jones
"McGee is just flying all over the place. He’s like a condor." -Stacey King
I thought that's where it was from
BDL had a montage of those last year.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
McGee posted it on his Facebook page...
With no indication it was fake, LOL. People were saying it was real in comments on his page.
found it
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Introducing-the-JaVale-cam-?urn=nba,121293
"McGee is just flying all over the place. He’s like a condor." -Stacey King
SBNation blocks off that last part of the url, so best to hyperlink it.
For those interested: Introducing the JaVale Cam!
My swag was phenomenal.
photo-exaggeration aside -
would be a good night to get him some more minutes, i think.
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
So who wins in a game of 5 on 5?
Tonight’s starting 5 vs. our 5 injured players
"...at some point, when u r screaming for more minutes for Pecherov, you have to ask yourselves this question: 'If you keep adding more pineapple to a 'Papa Johns Pizza with Pineapple', when does it become a Papa Johns Pineapple with Pizza???'"
by Gilbert4SpaceJam2 on Nov 10, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions
with or without them being injured?
:p
by Manimal Smith on Nov 10, 2009 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
No :<
I think a one armed Miller can put up more points than an 8 armed Stevenson/McGuire Hydra.
by Manimal Smith on Nov 10, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Someone needs to photoshop that STAT.
"...at some point, when u r screaming for more minutes for Pecherov, you have to ask yourselves this question: 'If you keep adding more pineapple to a 'Papa Johns Pizza with Pineapple', when does it become a Papa Johns Pineapple with Pizza???'"
by Gilbert4SpaceJam2 on Nov 10, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
PG: Arenas
SG: Criss
SF: James
PF: Miller
C: Jamison
vs.
PG: Foye
SG: Stevenson
SF: Butler
PF: Blatche
C: Haywood
Hmm…
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Wait a minute
Gilbert’s playing!! He just changed his mind! According to CSN.
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I'm not sure if this is good news...
don’t want him to aggravate an injury. But then again, maybe Tim Grover assured him that it was ok… who knows what’s going on in the mind of Gilbert Arenas.
"...at some point, when u r screaming for more minutes for Pecherov, you have to ask yourselves this question: 'If you keep adding more pineapple to a 'Papa Johns Pizza with Pineapple', when does it become a Papa Johns Pineapple with Pizza???'"
by Gilbert4SpaceJam2 on Nov 10, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
Depends what "strained calf" really means, I guess...
I mean, I do distance running and I basically always have a sore calf or some other leg pain and I don’t think it really matters too much… but if he pulled or tore something, then this could be bad…
I'm comforted that Grover is there
I suppose Gil could have ignored him, but I’d think he doesn’t play unless Grover says it’s ok.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
I'm not sure if this is good news...
don’t want him to aggravate an injury. But then again, maybe Tim Grover assured him that it was ok… who knows what’s going on in the mind of Gilbert Arenas.
"...at some point, when u r screaming for more minutes for Pecherov, you have to ask yourselves this question: 'If you keep adding more pineapple to a 'Papa Johns Pizza with Pineapple', when does it become a Papa Johns Pineapple with Pizza???'"
by Gilbert4SpaceJam2 on Nov 10, 2009 7:31 PM EST reply actions
Sorry, meant to reply
"...at some point, when u r screaming for more minutes for Pecherov, you have to ask yourselves this question: 'If you keep adding more pineapple to a 'Papa Johns Pizza with Pineapple', when does it become a Papa Johns Pineapple with Pizza???'"
by Gilbert4SpaceJam2 on Nov 10, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
btw - your tag-line quote might be one of the best wizznutzz lines ever
one of my favorites
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
I think a one armed Miller can put up more points than an 8 armed Stevenson/McGuire Hybrid
HAHAHHAAHAH awesome comment
Showmanship
Just like Castanza I have to leave after one good comment … or really because I’m on the west coast now and want to watch the game recorded later without it being spoiled.
by Manimal Smith on Nov 10, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
Rec it if you like it
We haven’t had enough green comments on here.
(A comment goes green after a certain number of recs)
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
3 I think
I haven’t checked in a while though.
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The problem is, the rec’ing system is not organized well. There needs to be a tiny thumbs up icon at the button next to actions or something… People don’t know to click on actions, and on top of that they don’t know what rec means…
I blame SBNation’s format for the lack of rec’ing… This needs to be implemented better, because green comments are important, especially to long threads.
My swag was phenomenal.
I'll let the tech team know
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by Mike Prada on Nov 10, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
And by weird
you mean almost exactly the same as windows vista?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
You certainly have to wonder
I’d guess no, but why not consider that possibility based on his history?
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I was reading over the comments
I have to agree. I think stevenson isnt as good on d as we think he is. I think he is way overrated. I would say caron is our best perimeter defender. His problem is he needs to be kept active or he gets lulled to sleep
Relatively
Relative is the big word. Compared to many of our perimeter defenders, he’s great. Compared to MJ, Pippen, he sucks worse than Souja Boy.
My swag was phenomenal.
gils got the brace on, i think
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 7:44 PM EST reply actions
Why does Caron hesitate there
and take the shot once the guy gets in his face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Nov 10, 2009 7:45 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Bad D by Dray to start
Why would you ever let Beasley go left?
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arenas...
finally got a haircut, his lineup is on point…
now he looks sharp
Gil's setting a nice tone early on
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Mike Jones tweeted that Gil changed his mind after Flip had settled on a starting lineup
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Wow, that was lucky
Stevenson and Haywood were very out of position
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Here comes the "down" portion of Beasley's night
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The offense looks so much sharper
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it got him a ring
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
Why the hell did Caron dribble into the trap??
What in Gawd’s name is he doing?
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goddamit caron
that’s what people are complaining about
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 8:05 PM EST reply actions
Brendan!
As Phil said “that’s the way to take it to the rack, big man”
9
dray has at least 3
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously.
How bullshit was that? Dalembert over Haywood? Really??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
I was more annoyed by Sheed over Haywood
Joakim Noah and Roy Hibbert got snubbed too.
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always seems that way to me
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
no time to think
just shoot
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
I love how McGuire forced Beasley right
And right into the help. That’s smart defense.
Play the guy more!
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Yeah, that's true
I’d consider giving McGuire Stevenson’s minutes, even though DeShawn played well tonight.
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I was wondering about that.
When you said you wanted to give Deshawn a “Dahntay Jones” type role, why wouldn’t you just give it to Mcguire?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
I'm guessing because McGuire can't come off screens and catch-and-shoot
Whereas at least Stevenson can sort of do that.
I still say start him and run Butler off those screens. It might simplify Butler’s role.
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Nah, why box out when you can hack like Oberto
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well this is the buy time
and pray the lead doesn’t totally evaporate line up
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm,
Pecherov wasn’t on the list of assist leaders for centers. Must have him listed as a power forward
Camby?
That’s not the name I expected to see.
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I was about to yell at Butler
For that drive into the baseline trap, but somehow, he made it work.
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Wow, Miami just ran the sideline play Phoenix always runs
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Dear Steve Buckhantz
There is no illegal defense anymore. The call is “Defensive Three Seconds”
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What?
Randy Foye now? What is this?
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Wow.
He’s not going to play for awhile. A week min I’m thinking limping like that.
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 10, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
eh
you know the initial feeling when you roll an ankle. hurts like hell, could be out for a few minutes, could be a month
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know
You pretty much know within 20 seconds if it’s going to be bad. He had to be helped by two people and really couldn’t put much on it at all. That’s definitely several game material, just from personal experience.
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 10, 2009 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm
Second look at it – I really don’t think it’s serious. I’d be surprised if he’s back tonight though.
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 10, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
ankle
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 8:24 PM EST reply actions
Isn't it great
that we can now blame Dan Snyder for everything that goes wrong in DC?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
Who you think is least popular in DC?
George W, Snyder, or Kwame Brown?
by Kevin Ewoldt on Nov 10, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
Now?
Snyder. Not even close.
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 10, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
they need to allow the wiz
to have an 82 player team.
"McGee is just flying all over the place. He’s like a condor." -Stacey King
What Heathen God did we dishonor?
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Yeah, surprised he hasn't played
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What a two man game with Dray
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 10, 2009 8:31 PM EST reply actions
Yeah
I’m convinced today that if Jamison misses the Detroit game for some reason, Blatche needs to start. I think not starting him might have cost us some games.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Possible.
Hard to believe, but I think he’s been the most consistent Wiz player (throw out the Indiana game).
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 10, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
Blaatche is just good to have out there w/ gil
He sets those screens and you actually have to cover him
Yo I think Arenas’ haircut is helping him tremendously. Hes got the haircut swagger going.
by Unxpekted on Nov 10, 2009 8:32 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
gil going to play tons of minutes tonight
good thing he’s under control, not over-exerting himself, and next game isn’t till saturday
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 8:34 PM EST reply actions
DeShawn and everyone else is playing great D on Wade
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Caron, kindly kick it to Stevenson in the corner
Thanks.
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What was that?
They’re playing such good man defense – why call zone?
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Oh that was it
I was trying to figure out why Arenas was so far away from Chalmers.
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 10, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I dunno
I was looking at my comp when that happened, so I only caught the end.
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gil looks really good
very quiet scoring, good assist #’s
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, he should have this first-half tape on loop
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What I dont get is the wizards either look really put together or
completely . The only in-between game we had was the atlanta game. Other than that, it is feast or famine.
Haywood 12points 5 rebounds 4 blocks
Blatche 9 points 7 rebounds 5 assists
Gilbert 15 poins, 3 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals
Caron 9 points, 2 rebounds 3 TO’s
Pretty much, everyone else is nada….
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
No complaining. Please can we just win todays game and not benegative. Positivity breeds positiveness. Or something like that lol
Just concerned that you can’t have a team with only 4 guys contributing…. Hopefully, someone (or more than just someone) will step up in the second half.
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
Hey Rook who else is supposed to
Jamison Miller and Foye hurt. Thats what like 40 points out hurt right now
Like to see Stevenson hit a couple of threes…. perhaps McGuire or McGee can help a bit…
You can’t win with only 4 guys scoring….
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Throw in Jamison 18 points 4 rebounds 1 assist
Miller 6 points 300 rebounds 5,680 assists (one armed)
Ruffin – One thrown ball to lose the game
DeShawn...
Is there a way we can find the +/- stat for when DeShawn is on the court. It seems like the Wiz do so much better on both sides of the ball when he’s on the bench. Just look at the current run to end the half.
He’s shooting 33% this year and 13% from 3PT…not to mention DWade is pissing on him as did LeCrabdribble
Wade is only 5-13 ….. largely because Stevenson is hounding him…
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Deshawn hating fan club is growing rapidly lol. Bullets Forever – I hate Deshawn Version: Coming SOON!!!
I want a gil swag haircut version
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Please click “reply.” It’s to the right of your posting name.
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Thanks
But do it on the specific comment you’re replying to, not the most recent one.
It just makes it easier for everyone to follow the side conversations that result in threads.
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I was especially impressed by the Wizard’s defensive effort… They held Miami to 43% shooting…
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my brother
is still there
"McGee is just flying all over the place. He’s like a condor." -Stacey King
I bet I could see him pretty easily if I wanted
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All one would have to do
is look for the guy who is getting annoyed by taunting texts. (Brotherly rivalry – he is a heat fan)
"McGee is just flying all over the place. He’s like a condor." -Stacey King
That should have been an assist for Butler
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Wow, DeShawn actually hit a three
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They were working on his ankle earlier
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Did he step on someone's foot and roll his ankle?
Those really hurt. Hopefully he didn’t sprain it too bad, though.
So does that mean that DeShawn and Gil play the entire second half?
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ha
I predict a NY sighting close to the end of the 3rd.
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 10, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
I suppose they could bring in McGuire with Arenas….
Or McGuire with Stevenson….
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Arenas needs a break at some point though
And I think that will be with Stevenson and NY in the backcourt.
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 10, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
Did anyone else
Post the fact that when Arenas and Wade go against each other, we haven’t won a game? Wade is 15-0 against Arenas. Ouch!
What does that mean? Arenas has never beaten wade?
by Carlos Returns on Nov 10, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
It doesn't look like Gil every fully extends his stride
He’s a little slower in the open court than I remembered. Still got the quicks though.
I think that's the first time I've seen Stevenson hit a shot off a screen
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does it still say 'beta'
somewhere on the player? i noticed that a few weeks ago.
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Does Gil really have nine turnovers?
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So, with the Wizards shortage of Guards, do they need to talk to Memphis about Iverson?
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They're going to their 1-on-5 spread offense
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Stevenson is actually the best ball handler on the team right now with the injuries and Gilbert sucking…Sad.
i do now
after that young 1on5 shot
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, we're lost without Gilbert out there
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no shit
i understand the offensive problems with this lineup. but no freaking excuse for the rebounding issues
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Holy cow the radio feed is behind
but it is working. Since I can’t ask every comment to have a spoiler alert, I’m going to sign off. There’s the Young play.
Only consolation there
is if he sits, Foye’s probably in a different place on the court from where he got hurt.
That was an ugly scrum, Young is a lost puppy out there, has 1st round bust written all over him, man, he has so much talent too
"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,
caron:
see that? catch, shoot, repeat
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 9:30 PM EST reply actions
Which straws
did Caron say he liked chewing on the best?
I think it was that he owns some Burger Kings, but he liked chewing on McDonalds straws.
"McGee is just flying all over the place. He’s like a condor." -Stacey King
In one game...
Maybe the Pacers? I saw some kid run out on the court during a dead ball to give Caron a straw. It’s so funny seeing him rip the paper off and pop it in his mouth mid-game.
Ball Don't Lie comes through
Butler: The Burger King straws are good but since I own ‘em, I’m not in the contract to promote ‘em. (Laughs) … But I eat the food though. Burger King’s food is obviously better than McDonald’s.
Butler: Cheesecake’s [Factory] are cool because they’re thick. That’s my substitute. But I try to stick with McDonald’s straws.
"McGee is just flying all over the place. He’s like a condor." -Stacey King
2 bench points
ouch
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 9:34 PM EST reply actions
Washington Defense still holding Miami to 43% shooting
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
defense is not the problem
i could barely type that. but it’s true
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Not a great pass there.
McGuire on Wade BTW
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
awesome
stackhouse has the record for most TO’s against miami. that’s funny to me.
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
I've never seen so many
“Great defense” and “Great D” comments on this website before. It’s definitely a great thing to see.
nah -
that’s just an old myth. never happened
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh
by purpleonblack86 on Nov 10, 2009 9:40 PM EST reply actions
no gil
"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh
by purpleonblack86 on Nov 10, 2009 9:41 PM EST reply actions
Shot clock running down
Haywood messed up that play by not making a move on JO.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
sort of saw that coming
"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh
by purpleonblack86 on Nov 10, 2009 9:42 PM EST reply actions
refs are blind lately
"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh
by purpleonblack86 on Nov 10, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
dammit gil
"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh
by purpleonblack86 on Nov 10, 2009 9:44 PM EST reply actions
So 2 calls go Heats way, Wiz down 4
"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,
They just need to find a way to win.
Can’t use the refs as a reason to get out of our offense.
Brendan had to contest that shot
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Richardson shoved Butler with 2 hands, I mean come on, terrible shot by Deshawn
"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,
Look, I know a lot of the fouls aren't going the Wizards' way
But when you have this many turnovers, you don’t get the benefit of the doubt. They need to take are of the ball and hit some shots.
done
no chance. players are gassed
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 9:47 PM EST reply actions
Why do they call the foul way after Caron has recieved the pass?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
DeShawn is a complete zero offensively
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Gilbert expected
Angels in the outfield?
"McGee is just flying all over the place. He’s like a condor." -Stacey King
ditto
he’s a good ball-handler and passer as well as his defense
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
That gil pass was so symbolic of what were doing, throwing the game away.
"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh
by purpleonblack86 on Nov 10, 2009 9:50 PM EST reply actions
lol revenge
"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh
by purpleonblack86 on Nov 10, 2009 9:53 PM EST reply actions
and why did deshawn jump
in a way to allow a clear escape path for wade?
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
8 more fouls
and Arenas has his wacky triple double (points, turnovers, fouls)
"McGee is just flying all over the place. He’s like a condor." -Stacey King
I hate to see guys laughing and joking with the other team in the head of battle
I guess I’m just oldschool in that regard
Gilbert doesn't look good out there
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
yup
something’s up. wearing the brace, there was a shot of him rubbing his knee with some device earlier, combined with the pre-game drama.
plus, just mentally, he’s played kind of weird recently
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
No time to panic….
Injuries have a lot to do with that record… getting Jamison and Miller back will be huge.
AND – the Wizards are playing very good defense… which is something that people around here have been screaming for a long time…
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Nov 10, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, that's true.
Miller looked really good so far this season and we haven’t seen Jamison at all. I’ll take some deep breaths!
Well,
we still look like sh*t. Groundhog’s Day.
just got to get a couple of wins
before everyone gets back. just a couple.
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 9:57 PM EST reply actions
hey this looks just like wade winning a championship
free throw – free throw – free throw. bleech.
p.s. – got to hell Q. Richardson
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Nov 10, 2009 10:00 PM EST reply actions
All this "Gil is back" bs
needs to stop until he puts a good 4th quarter together. You can’t be “back” for only 60% of the game…
by DynaMix on Nov 10, 2009 10:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions
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