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Open Thread: Washington Wizards vs. Philadelphia 76ers, Preseason Game 7

Washington Wizards at Philadelphia 76ers, Oct 20, 2009 7:00 PM EDT


Wait ... I get jersey #76 as the coach of the 76ers??  Awesome!  Get it, guys!

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Wait ... I get jersey #76 as the coach of the 76ers?? Awesome! Get it, guys!

The Essentials:

Wizards (19-63 last season) vs. 76ers (41-41)
7:00 p.m.
Wachovia Center
TV: Comcast SportsNet (hoo-ray!!!)
Radio: 106.7 The Fan

Notable 76ers numbers last season

15th in expected winning percentage (.503)
21st in pace (90 possessions per game)
19th in offensive efficiency/offensive rating (107.9)
14th in defensive efficiency/defensive rating (107.8)

Pre-game links

Liberty Ballers, SB Nation's Philadelphia 76ers blog
Philadunkia, a 76ers blog
Depressed Fan, a 76ers blog
Deep Sixer with Philly Inquirer 76ers reporter Kate Fagen
Eddie Jordan opens up about his time in DC - Michael Lee
Ball Don't Lie's 76ers preview
Liberty Ballers' 76ers season preview
ESPN's Experts Preview: 76ers
Backup role a struggle for Dominic McGuire - Mike Jones
Mixed Emotions from Wizards players about facing Eddie Jordan - Michael Lee
GameDay Philadelphia

Tonight's Projected Starters
Wizards vs. 76ers
Randy Foye PG Louis Williams
DeShawn Stevenson Nick Young
SG Andre Iguodala
Caron Butler SF Thaddeus Young
Andray Blatche Fabricio Oberto
PF Elton Brand
Brendan Haywood C Samuel Dalembert

 

UPDATE: Nick Young's starting instead of DeShawn Stevenson.  Just when you think a guy is buried in Flip Saunders' rotation, it turns out he might not be.  Also, Fabricio Oberto is starting instead of Andray Blatche.  Say this about Flip Saunders: he has stuck to his mantra of "let's tinker so I can see all possible combination before the games count."

It's the Wizards vs. the former Wizards coach and his band of preseason-winning but slow-to-pick-up-the-Princeton players.  If anything, it should be pretty interesting.  The Wizards are kind of outclassed here -- Antawn Jamison is out due to injury and Gilbert Arenas and Mike Miller stayed back because of the flu -- but they have more experience with the Princeton offense than the current crop of 76ers has.  That should be worth something, somewhere, at least you'd think.

The 76ers are a solid 5-1 this preseason, which is good.  Eddie Jordan, thus far, has resisted the temptation to go really, really small and play Willie Greene instead of Samuel Dalembert, which I'd thought he'd do at this point.  They seem like they're learning the Princeton gradually, which is good for them.  But there has also been some odd behavior from the new 76ers coach this preseason, and I mean odd as in out of character, not bad.  He had his players completely scrap the Princeton offense for the final three quarters of a win over the Knicks earlier in the preseason, claiming the Knicks, specifically former Wizards Larry Hughes and Jared Jeffries, knew the plays.  Then, Jordan randomly bashed breakout candidate Marreese Speights after a game in which he scored 32 points, grabbed 15 rebounds, blocked two shots and nearly led the 76ers back from an 18-point fourth-quarter deficit against Phoenix. 

"We want people to produce while we win," Jordan told FanHouse. "That's what we're looking at. We're not just looking at guys who get stats. We're looking at, are you making winning plays? Are you helping your teammates?

"You know, a lot of guys can go out and get a lot of numbers and not help their teammates and do things to win. So, we want him to grow as a team player, and yet, be productive individually."

Jordan might be right, but ... man ... couldn't that have been handled in-house?  Then again, he might be trying to lay the law down early.  One of the complaints many 76ers had with former coach Tony DiLeo after the playoffs last year was that he wasn't very disciplined, and Maurice Cheeks, the previous coach, certainly didn't do well on that front either. 

Either way, Philly's a talented team that might take some time to get going.  Losing Andre Miller hurts, but the 76ers are confident Louis Williams is a better fit for the no-PG Princeton.  Time will tell. 

The 76ers remain a team that forces turnovers extremely well (2nd in the league last year), but can't shoot.  Flip Saunders' teams usually take good care of the ball and make you hit the outside shot.  Hopefully, those trends continue.

This is an open game thread, so any comments (good or bad) about Eddie Jordan are welcome.  Seriously.

GO WIZARDS!

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I thought they retired #76 for Shawn Bradley

I’m shocked and hurt right now.

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by JakeTheSnake on Oct 20, 2009 5:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i think that's what that picture is of

he’s just finished realizing that the name on the back is not Jordan, but Bradley

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Oct 20, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

By the way

To get things going on the EJ discussion:

I received an advanced copy of Chris Ballard’s new book “The Art of a Beautiful Game,” (very good book, might review it sometime when I get a chance), and I’ve been reading it the last couple days. There’s a chapter in there about Idan Ravin, the famous “Hoops Whisperer” trainer who puts all these great players through these really intense workouts. One of Ravin’s clients is Brendan Haywood.

According to the book, when Eddie Jordan was having trouble with Brendan, he went to Ravin to ask for advice on how to reach him. Here’s the excerpt from the book:


“When Jordan was coach of the Wizards, he was having a hard time talking with Brendan Haywood, the Washington center who was then sharing minutes with Etan Thomas and was none too happy about it. Remembers Jordan, “Brendan loved working out with [Ravin], so I went to Idan and asked, ‘How do you keep a positive relationship with Brendan?’” Ravin explained that Haywood merely wanted to be involved, to be part of the process. “You think he’s challenging you, but all you have to do is ask his opinion,” Ravin told Jordan. “Brendan’s a cerebral guy. Empower him.”

Jordan took the advice to heart and, as he says, “I carried it over to my daily regimen, the idea that this is what I have to do with Brendan. And by the end we had a great relationship.”

Perhaps this explains why Haywood keeps saying he gets along with EJ when he clearly didn’t for long stretches.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 20, 2009 7:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Where to watch the game?

I would do it legally if there were a legal way to watch it but in Birmingham, Alabama the stations are covering other things, and League Pass hasn’t begun and NBATV is not covering what could easily be the game of the century (Haywood’s revenge triple double?)

Help

by morethesamewiz on Oct 20, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Caron's taking like every shot

Can we please work it inside to Brendan? Please?

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 20, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Four turnovers in a row? Really?

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 20, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

5

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Oct 20, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

terrible

foye seems to be a bit of a ball stopper

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Oct 20, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wiz are playing good defense at least

Forcing Philly to hit some tough shots … Dalembert’s hit a couple that you can live with, Iguodala hasn’t gotten to the rim, etc.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 20, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

McGuire in at PF

No Dray yet.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 20, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

maybe they actually do listen to flip

when he talks about defense. nice to see. i see lots of people moving really well and no wide open 3’s

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Oct 20, 2009 7:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

McGee!

By the way, that’s twice that McGuire has made an unnoticed big play. That offensive rebound was one, his rotation @ the end of the quarter was another.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 20, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he's playing like a center!

mcgee that is

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Oct 20, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Look how high JaVale gets. Just when it becomes easily to take his length and leaping ability for granted, he does something like that.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 20, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mcgee

WOW, he looks like a different player today.

by forthepeople on Oct 20, 2009 7:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, he looks great

It’s crazy what happens when he doesn’t just jump all over the place.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 20, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bringing the intensity tonight

I hope he goes back to Matrisciano next summer, I know he went two weeks this summer, and has the video evidence (http://www.youtube.com/user/bigdaddywookie#p/a/u/2/er0dDS7_6fA wait nevermind its this one http://www.youtube.com/user/bigdaddywookie#p/u/0/X1Z8hzdGsLA) on youtube to show for it, but maybe a more extended stay like Blake Griffins http://ballhype.com/video/blake_griffin_s_incredible_training_regimen/
 could rub off more on his overall attitude and give him some killer instinct.

by morethesamewiz on Oct 20, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no joke

very encouraging – loved the rebounding and better defense

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Oct 20, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

seems like Foye

doesn’t use his body well on drives. He doesn’t shield the ball which lets it get slapped or blocked often.

by ronoD nagrO on Oct 20, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I agree

It’s almost as if he hasn’t realized he isn’t athletic enough to jump over the interior defenders.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 20, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

6-4

with a 6-4 reach he can’t go head to head with any big man. If he can learn to use his drive to create space for the bigs it will open up the floor for him.

by forthepeople on Oct 20, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

its a tough shot, but ive seen him make it. He definitely prefers that to finishing with his left.

by forthepeople on Oct 20, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Foye

is no threat to go to the basket. Once he penetrates below the free throw line he is a terrible passer so teams just play him for the blocked shot. He has to make it harder on the defense.

by forthepeople on Oct 20, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Twan

with no sling. Always a good sign.

by forthepeople on Oct 20, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely!

I didn’t notice. Good news!

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 20, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah all i've about his injury

seems to indicate pretty good news

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Oct 20, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i've heard, that is

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Oct 20, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The ball's really zipping now

Love the way the offense is running.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 20, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Foye's trying too hard to make plays

He’s passing up open shots.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 20, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm suprised we have a lead,

it doesn’t seem we are playing particularly well.

by ronoD nagrO on Oct 20, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lou williams will be a weakness for them, i think

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Oct 20, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just think they still have no outside shooting

And Dalembert presents EJ with the same dilemma Haywood did (big with no ball skills), except Dalembert actually sucks.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 20, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wjde open Iggy.

Gotta fight through those screens

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Oct 20, 2009 8:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wtf was that by Haywood?

awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Oct 20, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I know you said that him and Eddie patched things up towards the end...

but isn’t it possible that he’s trying to send him a message tonight?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Oct 20, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That last play

says everything you need to know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Oct 20, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He really sucks

Does anybody remember the time like 4-5 years ago where Gilbert was killing the Sixers(pre Agent 0 emergence) and gilbert passed the ball to the wing and cut through the middle while running the O and Dalembert just threw a wicked forearm to Gilberts face giving him a bloody nose? It was so far away from the play the refs missed it and then Dalembert ran up to the refs telling them Gilbert was bleeding and had to leave the game? I have hated that dude’s guts ever since.

by BayAreaBullet on Oct 20, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haywood is a Beast

Wiz need to make sure we get him involved early every game.

by forthepeople on Oct 20, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this has been an encouraging game

people seem to be responding to things they have been slacking on the last few games.
foye, whatever his position, is very useful, and it’s great to see brendan back at full strength

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Oct 20, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

AND i love oberto

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Oct 20, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dominic McGuire with the same birthday as one of your favorite BF bloggers (and Hawk Offense semi-expert)….

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Oct 20, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's D-Mac's B-Day today

PS: Everyone wish Rook a Happy Birthday!

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 20, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

happy bday rook

i celebrated your birthday by getting my slingbox set up. i’m ready to go for the season. can’t wait.

by DarrellWalkerFan on Oct 21, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Happy Bday rook

If you can drink take a shot for the BF board.

by forthepeople on Oct 20, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Happy Birthday Rook

How old are you? About 25? 26?

by bigrm18 on Oct 20, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

more than double that

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by Rook6980 on Oct 20, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only if you think you are

Age is nothing but a number

by bigrm18 on Oct 20, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ohh,

is THAT what he was angling for….Happy Birthday Rook, keep up the good work.

by ronoD nagrO on Oct 20, 2009 8:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeaaaaahhhh

We rolling.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 20, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m so happy we don’t have the princeton offense any more. The lack of screens always puzzled me.

by Fundefined on Oct 20, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We didn't even run the princeton anyways

it was just a series of Iso’s for the Big 3.

by BayAreaBullet on Oct 20, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, that's false

We did run the Princeton, it’s just that the pure Princeton can’t be run on an NBA level because it’s predicated on milking the shot clock.

It was Princeton sets into ISOs that opened up the floor perfectly.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 20, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ehhhhhh

I’ll bow to your superior knowledge on that one.

by BayAreaBullet on Oct 20, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has NY gotten in yet

I am really curious about his Defense.

by BayAreaBullet on Oct 20, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

defensive evaluation?

I could care less about his O.

by BayAreaBullet on Oct 20, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He only played 14 minutes and had a -6

3 TO’s,

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by Rook6980 on Oct 20, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was he guarding Iguodala during the 3rd

I admittedly wasn’t watching all that carefully. Can anyone fill me in?

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 20, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was, and he got caught on screens/lost Iggy a couple times

and Iggy hit two wide open long jumpers.

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Oct 20, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the Wizards had better win this

they know all of the other team’s sets.

by satchmore on Oct 20, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Got my cake and eating it too….

Wizards winning…and I’m literally eating cake

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Oct 20, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He looks good

Antawn, that is. Hope he comes back soon.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 20, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We may not like Dray shooting jumpers

But I gotta admit, his stroke looks really good.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 20, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Wizards free throw shooting poor in the preseason

EG better head up to Toronto and beg for Hopla to grace us once again with his presence

by morethesamewiz on Oct 20, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Especially Haywood

It looks like he’s back to his old free thrown shooting percentage ways.

by bigrm18 on Oct 20, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

McGuire just disrupted that play

By denying Kapono the ball on the dribble handoff. Won’t go in the box score, but I’d hope the coaches take note.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 20, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else listening on 106.7? I just got home (no cable yet) and I’m only getting ads.

by bronco6778 on Oct 20, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

feeds been broken the last 2 games -

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Oct 20, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I had a problem with that yesterday….
Never did get the game…

Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......

by Rook6980 on Oct 20, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nick

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Oct 20, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good call

And a good set play … an actual play! No “Here, you get the ball and dribble around for a bit, then score.”

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 20, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That alone makes Flip worth it.

Although I can’t remember back past Tapscott and Unseld Jr…..

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Oct 20, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

obvious pick

But correct. And he hit it. I was going to guess D-mac just for the heck of it. Maybe for the gamewinner?

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Oct 20, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope - mike james is gonna jump the play

and jack a three

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Oct 20, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you called it

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Oct 20, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The plays off timeouts are always a joy to watch

by Fundefined on Oct 20, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay I've seen this movie before

Against an Eddie Jordan team, you go for the uncontested layup at the end of the game. Works every time

by morethesamewiz on Oct 20, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Javale thinks he’s a point guard

by Fundefined on Oct 20, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

man you could see the gears turning in his head

and see exactly when he said “f it – i’m going for it”

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Oct 20, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He was dreaming up the R Kelly in his head

I believeeee I can fly hoo! …….Oh shit

by morethesamewiz on Oct 20, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, Young, NO

by Fundefined on Oct 20, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't understand

what could have been thinking on that play. Just lazy, lazy defense.

by forthepeople on Oct 20, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

That terrible D by NY is going to make Flip think twice about playing him at crunch time. Doesn’t help his starter’s cause either.

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Oct 20, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

noted wiz killer willie green

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Oct 20, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

UH OH

James was fouled…

by bigrm18 on Oct 20, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

gotta love replacement refs

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Oct 20, 2009 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Chris Miller

Said that there was a meeting yesterday and that everything could be resolved soon.

by bigrm18 on Oct 20, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh, not sure about that foul

by Fundefined on Oct 20, 2009 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

When they cut to the Wizards bench

Crittenton had this huge smile on his face like he knew it was a bs call.

By the way, Mike James just pulled a Michael Ruffin.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 20, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What a birthday gift.

by Fundefined on Oct 20, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not watching live – was that a make up call?

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by Rook6980 on Oct 20, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good lord what an ending

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Oct 20, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh my god

Michael Ruffin’s name and I’m nowhere near a TV.

by bronco6778 on Oct 20, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing will ever beat that.

EVER.

"One-on-one? You can't." -Gilbert Arenas
JC Bandwagon all day!

by kseandoyle on Oct 20, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

would you that beating that moment

is NOT POSSIBLE!!!!???

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Oct 20, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Of course

James misses everything and gives them a chance…

by bigrm18 on Oct 20, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Even if it was a foul, A sign of a clear NBA ref rookie is they don’t understand the unspoken rule of letting the players decide the end of the game, not the refs.

by Fundefined on Oct 20, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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