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Open Thread: Preseason Game 6 vs. Atlanta Hawks

Washington Wizards at Atlanta Hawks, Oct 19, 2009 7:00 PM EDT



The Essentials:

Wizards (19-63 last season) vs. Hawks (47-35)
7:00 p.m.
Phillips Arena
TV: None
Radio: 106.7 The Fan

Notable Hawks numbers last season

13th in expected winning percentage (.556)
24th in pace (89.6 possessions per game)
10th in offensive efficiency/offensive rating (109.3)
12th in defensive efficiency/defensive rating (107.6)

Pre-game links

Peachtree Hoops, SB Nation's Atlanta Hawks blog
Hoopinion, a Hawks blog
Peachtree Hoops game thread
Hawks Blog with Sekou Smith, one of the best newspaper beat writers this game has
Sekou Smith: The Hawks are Ready For Business
Competition Discussion: Atlanta Hawks
Michael Lee: Brendan Haywood to play tonight, Antawn Jamison progressing, Javaris Crittenton still out
GameDay Atlanta

Tonight's Projected Starters
Wizards vs. Hawks
Randy Foye PG Mike Bibby
Mike Miller DeShawn Stevenson
SG Joe Johnson
Caron Butler SF Marvin Williams
Andray Blatche
PF Josh Smith
Brendan Haywood C Al Horford

 

Dave Johnson is reporting that Gilbert Arenas is out tonight due to flu-like symptoms.  I'm worried he caught it from LeBron and the Cavs.  Atlanta seems like they've got their full crew together, so this should be an interesting preseason test against a team the Wizards will likely be competing for playoff positioning all season.  

I'm excited to figure out how much the return of Brendan Haywood helps the defense.  The Wizards' defense hasn't shown all that much improvement in the preseason thus far, but obviously having no Haywood since the Dallas game is a HUGE caveat.  Atlanta is a good team with a decent, if ugly-looking offense, so this should be a good test to see where that defense is at.  It's also good because Atlanta has some three-point shooters like Bibby, Johnson, Williams and Jamal Crawford off the bench.  This will be a test for the three-point defense as well.

Also, let's hope for more Nick Young tonight.  He hasn't shot well, but there is still time left for him to wrestle that starting shooting guard away from either Mike Miller or DeShawn Stevenson.  

This is an open game thread, so let's hope that nothing can stop us!

GO WIZARDS!

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By the way

Anyone else see this tweet?

Apparently Dave Hopla’s working with the Raptors informally.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 19, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Yikes

Michael Lee says Gilbert Arenas AND Mike Miller have the flu, and Arenas won’t play tomorrow against Philly (no Gilbert/EJ reunion).

Kyle definitely called this.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 19, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Only silver lining is it’s now and not next week.

by bronco6778 on Oct 19, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess there’s no TV feed tonight?

by bronco6778 on Oct 19, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions  

No

And a good thing, we’re getting killed.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 19, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looking like it

I can’t even get the radio feed today. Not worried, but I didn’t need the reminder of the team without Arenas.

by bronco6778 on Oct 19, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

We suck at defending the three

It’s official. We still do.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 19, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Shot distribution

is terrible early. 1 shot for 3 of the starters and 10 and 8 for butler and foye.

by forthepeople on Oct 19, 2009 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

"No offensive rhythm"

I know that Johnson and Consor are talking about how Flip isn’t running a lot of plays since we play the Hawks in reg. season game 2 …. but still, this is not good to hear.

Representing DC with Wizards & Stuff - Truth About It.net and Bullets Forever.

by Kyle Weidie on Oct 19, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

three point shooting percentages: Wizards 0% Hawks 100%

by Fundefined on Oct 19, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Take it with a grain of salt?

I haven’t been listening, but from the box score it looked like the wizards were using a pretty abysmal line and backcourt, and the hawks were starting their regular unit.

by Knowledge92 on Oct 19, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

javale mcgee did not show up tonight

that kid is so immature, he spent all the warmups dribbling between his legs and chucking threes. He and nick are bad influences on each other, blatche seems to be making an effort, mcgee and nick seem to want to merely change from the three stooges to dumb and dumber. I’m a javale fan but sometimes I wonder where’s the heart. I know its preseason but damn, maybe once nick goes in a season or two mcgee will grow up. I’m mad because I’m at the game in my wizards hoody and well didn’t pick a good one to come to, although I see them again in 11 days.

by morethesamewiz on Oct 19, 2009 8:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

that's interesting -

i lost the WJFK radio stream so didn’t really hear what was going on. It does seem that JaVale still just goes for highlight plays, on offense or defense. It does worry me that he doesn’t seem to have matured basketball-wise. It doesn’t help, I think, that b’ball writers say he’s a monster waiting to happen, or even that he got invited to USA B’ball. That might actually work against him.
I wonder if extensive pine time will open either his or Nick’s eyes.

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Oct 19, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know - just thinking that (hopefully) Flip doesn't HAVE to play him

so using minutes is one of his main ways of rewarding hard work and discipline.

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Oct 19, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to disagree...

I see JaVale working very hard on the court. He may not know a lot yet, but I don’t see him being lackadaisical during games. I can’t speak to warmups or practice, but when he’s on the court, he’s working, from what I can tell.

by YellaFella on Oct 19, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will say...

That I’ve never seen a player get 7 offensive rebounds and no defensive boards. That’s extremely weird. How does that even happen?

by YellaFella on Oct 19, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i guess i could save my skepticism

until i actually see a few regular season games. but i do worry about his aspirations of stardom getting ahead of his actual skills and consistency.

"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler

by little stevie colter on Oct 19, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

that sucks – not listening to the game, but seven offensive boards looked pretty good on the box score

by AndNone on Oct 19, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

From Mike Lee's twitter feed:

MrMichaelLee At least somebody is into this game for Washington. Flip just got a T. When Mo Evans missed the tech, Flip said, “Ball don’t lie.”

MrMichaelLee When Joe Smith miss both FTs, Flip said, “Ball really, really, really don’t lie!” Sam Cassell almost fell from his seat.

by bronco6778 on Oct 19, 2009 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

love that

Coach Winters: Mississippi State's offensive set. 2nd & 2 on our own 24, what defensive set might we call?
Alvin Mack: Eagle Zipper Hero, unless the setback shifts into the I.
Coach Winters: Good..[clicks to next slide], third and seven?
Alvin Mack: Oakie Thunder Lion. {What's your assignment?}
Alvin Mack: Kill the quarterback. {{Coach Winters clicks to next slide}}
Alvin Mack: Hit the tight end so hard his girlfriend dies. {{Coach Winters clicks to next slide}}
Alvin Mack: Kill everybody.

by KD Drummond on Oct 19, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haywood

should get more touches. He is the most traditional post player we have and he is capable enough on offense. I think he had 1 shot in the first half.

by forthepeople on Oct 19, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

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