Open Thread: Washington Wizards vs. Detroit Pistons, Preseason Game 4
by Mike Prada on Oct 13, 2009 3:16 PM EDT
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Washington Wizards at Detroit Pistons, Oct 13, 2009 7:00 PM EDT
The Essentials:
Wizards (19-63 last season) vs. Pistons (39-43)
7:00 p.m.
Van Andel Arena, Grand Rapids
TV: None
Radio: 106.7 The Fan
Notable Pistons numbers last season
17th in expected winning percentage (.482)
29th in pace (86.7 possessions per game)
21st in offensive efficiency/offensive rating (107.4)
16th in defensive efficiency/defensive rating (108)
Pre-game links
Motown String Music, SB Nation's Detroit Pistons blog
Piston Powered, Detroit Pistons blog
Detroit Bad Boys
Need4Sheed, Detroit Pistons fan site
Motown String Music season preview
Need4Sheed season preview
Michael Lee's report from Grand Rapids: Miller to start, Arenas maybe to sit because of the slippery floor
GameDay Grand Rapids
| Tonight's Projected Starters | ||
|---|---|---|
| Wizards | vs. | Pistons |
| Gilbert Arenas ?? |
PG | Rodney Stuckey |
| Mike Miller |
SG | Richard Hamilton |
| Caron Butler |
SF | Tayshaun Prince |
| Antawn Jamison |
PF | Kwame Brown |
| Fabricio Oberto |
C | Ben Wallace |
The great preseason road trip rolls on to Detroit Grand Rapids tonight, as the Wizards take on the new-look Pistons, Flip Saunders' former team. And if you thought that some writer would make reference to Saunders' "homecoming," don't worry, Michael Lee has you covered.
The funny thing about tonight's game is that Saunders is thinking of sitting Gilbert Arenas because ... get this ... the floor is too slippery. That's according to Lee, who also reports that Mike Miller will start at shooting guard and that Brendan Haywood will continue to rest his sore ankle. So, remind me why we're having a preseason game in Grand Rapids again?
Detroit's likely to be without new acquisition Charlie Villanueva, who is sitting out with a left hamstring injury that sounds suspiciously like a "aggravated injury due to too much inactivity before training camp" (Pistons fans, please note I've done no prior research on Villanueva's injury, so don't take that too seriously). That elevates the corpse of Ben Wallace into the starting lineup, where he'll team with Kwame Brown to provide the most inept starting frontcourt in the league.
The Pistons will be with Will Bynum, the diminutive point guard who came out of nowhere to be a solid contributor last year. Despite his breakout year, he seems even further down in the guard rotation after Detroit signed Ben Gordon, but that won't stop him. MLive's A Sherrod Blakely has a nice story about how Bynum is drawing inspiration and receiving advice from Gilbert Arenas, particularly on the challenges of cracking a team's rotation when being counted out.
The game's on the radio only, and I might miss parts of it because of a prior engagement, but I'm curious to see how Miller fits with most of the starting lineup. How assertive will he be coming off screens? Will he shoot it when he should be shooting it? I sure hope so.
This is an open game thread, so let's hope Kwame doesn't drive by Andray Blatche tonight like he did last year.
GO WIZARDS!
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by Truth About It on Oct 13, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
KWAME KWAME KWAME KWAME!
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Oct 13, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like Arenas will start despite slippery floor.
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by Truth About It on Oct 13, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hate listening to basketball on the radio.
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by Truth About It on Oct 13, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
same here its streaming online but currently it wont buffer it
by Unxpekted on Oct 13, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let me know if this is working for anyone they used to always work
by Unxpekted on Oct 13, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea, was trying earlier ... but it keeps buffering.
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by Truth About It on Oct 13, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah not working
"a crab dribble is when you travel" - caron butler
by little stevie colter on Oct 13, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got my hopes up.
My swag was phenomenal.
by se7en on Oct 13, 2009 7:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
This is gay whats the status for the cavs game tomorrow, televised, online we NEED links. What would bulletsforever be if they didnt supply every wizard fan w/o a link to see queen james get beat up lol
by Unxpekted on Oct 13, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We’ll be televised against the Cavaliers on Comcast Sportsnet and it’s on NBA TV I believe as well so thank goodness for that because listening isn’t nearly as good as watching.
by bigrm18 on Oct 13, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing on Justin.TV either
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by Rook6980 on Oct 13, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea, it's not on local DET tv ... so it's likely not available at all
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by Truth About It on Oct 13, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha - not much to comment on
consor and dave johnson sound good – way better than the 1st game
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by little stevie colter on Oct 13, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Arenas has 10 points on 4/5 shooting...
The Wizards as a whole are shooting 50% and are outrebounding the Pistons so sounds like a good start. Keyword there is “sounds.”
by bigrm18 on Oct 13, 2009 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/gamechannel
Not as good as watching on TV….
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by Rook6980 on Oct 13, 2009 7:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One nice thing about this link is that the Stats and the Play-by-Play are kept up to the minute….
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by Rook6980 on Oct 13, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
truth gets a shout out!
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by little stevie colter on Oct 13, 2009 7:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ha! ... had to do some research on players from Sweden.
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by Truth About It on Oct 13, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
where's Amundson from?
plays for the suns i think
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by little stevie colter on Oct 13, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s from the long lost Foreign country called California…..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Amundson
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by Rook6980 on Oct 13, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea ... he was born in Cali
Not sure where his family is from though.
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by Truth About It on Oct 13, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s a US Citizen….
Of course, go back far enough, and we’re ALL from someplace else..
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by Rook6980 on Oct 13, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, but he could be 1st, 2nd gen ... or whatever ... at least close
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by Truth About It on Oct 13, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JAVAAAAALE with the dunk!!!!
nope. just doesn’t work on the radio.
by MR on Oct 13, 2009 7:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
too many jumpers
or so it sounds like
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by little stevie colter on Oct 13, 2009 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is Truth supplying stats for the broadcast? lol.
by Craig_ on Oct 13, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know, right? Ha!
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by Truth About It on Oct 13, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's really amazing. They're eating it all up. Great job!
by Craig_ on Oct 13, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeez Truth – you may as well be sitting at the table with them….
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by Rook6980 on Oct 13, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well ... just make some comments on the 'official' Wash Wizards Blog
http://www.washingtonwizardsblog.com/2009/10/13/gameday-grand-rapids/
It is cool how Glenn and Dave are very responsive to commenters (or ‘Bloggers’ as they call them for some reason) … They did it a lot last year.
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by Truth About It on Oct 13, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, they got/misread my one cite
Miles Simon played 5 games in the NBA … but not sure he counts as a ‘Swede’ even though he was born over there.
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by Truth About It on Oct 13, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nick Young with a rebound?
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by Rook6980 on Oct 13, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oberto can make a lay up…..
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by Rook6980 on Oct 13, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great halftime stat
D-Mac has the best +/- on the team, but his only box score “contribution” is a foul.
by bwoodsxyz on Oct 13, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OMG – just talk about the stats if you cannot find anything else to talk about except the broken net….!!!
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by Rook6980 on Oct 13, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bonus Flip
sounds like there’s no way his voice makes it through the regular season
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by little stevie colter on Oct 13, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like the lack of shooting is still in Mike Miller's head.
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by Truth About It on Oct 13, 2009 8:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Basketball on the radio sober is hard
It’s much harder after a few tequila drinks.
by bronco6778 on Oct 13, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn straight ... wish I had some drinks.
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by Truth About It on Oct 13, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's killing me not being able to see the game
And making me want a few drinks
by bigrm18 on Oct 13, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially since Gilbert Arenas is playing so well
21 points in 23 minutes … 4 assists.
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by Truth About It on Oct 13, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'll say this for Mr. Brown
he’s a decent for at center for a team with so many offensive weapons
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by little stevie colter on Oct 13, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So you’d welcome him back here to back up Brendan next year?
by bronco6778 on Oct 13, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
He plays solid defense…. Rebounds at a pretty good rate… and doesn’t butcher as many Offensive possessions as he used to (Mainly because they don’t give him the ball….)
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by Rook6980 on Oct 13, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not No 1 pick material
But plenty solid. If he’d flamed out in Charlotte instead of here I’d be all for it. Too many fans would be so quick to jump all over him here it’d never work.
by bronco6778 on Oct 13, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
honestly?
i would. i may be the only one. it is not even a possibility, i think, but in theory i would.
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by little stevie colter on Oct 13, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ohhh man Miller just got his in game scar just like jamison and caron got … we got to start miller
Gil is back too baby
by eltacoman on Oct 13, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
5 TO’s for Arenas – not good…. The rest of his game has been stellar though.
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by Rook6980 on Oct 13, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seems like a little more each game
I figure he has a pretty good chance of putting it all together.
by bronco6778 on Oct 13, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it seems to be coming all together for him so far
by eltacoman on Oct 13, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And we hear highlights that sound live again. Next time I won’t get so excited.
by bronco6778 on Oct 13, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
where playin 11 players maybe we are saving some for the Cavs tomarrow
by eltacoman on Oct 13, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mike James?
I hope we’re not saving him for tomorrow.
by Craig_ on Oct 13, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nick Young had a “New Nick Young” moment…. tried to pass the ball…. result, turn over.
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by Rook6980 on Oct 13, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah doesn't sound like he's played well
mike miller, on the other hand, seems like a glue guy + at the 2 guard.
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by little stevie colter on Oct 13, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And then Young gets an assist with that Jamison bucket…….
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by Rook6980 on Oct 13, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miller helps everyones game out he should be our starting SG …. if the young SG ( Foye, Nick, Javaris ) guys dont get it soon we might need to trade some of them for a bonafied sixth man ……
by eltacoman on Oct 13, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the lead is down to 7
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by Rook6980 on Oct 13, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Another bad call by these temporary Referees
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by Rook6980 on Oct 13, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is is true that Salvatore and Bavetta crossed the line?
by bronco6778 on Oct 13, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guess that’s all we need to listen to.
by bronco6778 on Oct 13, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
was it the appearance of mike james
that sealed it for you?
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by little stevie colter on Oct 13, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
10:29 Shooting Foul on James
Is all I need to see to be done.
by Craig_ on Oct 13, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
works every time
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by little stevie colter on Oct 13, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and the lead is down to 1
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by Rook6980 on Oct 13, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mike James in for only 2-minutes, and he’s already a -6 on the plus/minus
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by Rook6980 on Oct 13, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember when Jake said
We need to showcase him?
by bronco6778 on Oct 13, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Showcase him to his family?
Because they’re the only ones that want him.
by bigrm18 on Oct 13, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
do they? do they really?
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by little stevie colter on Oct 13, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I was trying
To give James the benefit of the doubt… But I can’t answer that question for sure.
by bigrm18 on Oct 13, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually hate it
When guys like James get big contracts after one good year and never live up to it. I wonder how many would give the contract back for some anonymity.
by bronco6778 on Oct 13, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JaVale McGee good at dunking y'all
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by Truth About It on Oct 13, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mike James Bitch!!
Trey ball……
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by Truth About It on Oct 13, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it happens just often enough
for him to stay in the league
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by little stevie colter on Oct 13, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd like to see mike miller
knock down a few clutch shots here
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by little stevie colter on Oct 13, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
or hear it, i guess
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by little stevie colter on Oct 13, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Muted the Geico ad, will probably forget to turn it back on. Of course that’s only if i don’t pass out during the commercial.
by bronco6778 on Oct 13, 2009 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jesus
Why isn’t Mike Miller looking to score?
He’s driving and kicking it out to Dom McGuire at the 3 pt. line (of all people)
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by Truth About It on Oct 13, 2009 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And he hits a timely trey to put the Wiz up 95-91
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by Truth About It on Oct 13, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too late
Had to refresh. SB nation has some weird bugs…
by bronco6778 on Oct 13, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damnnation
I’d really like to watch McGee going off.
by bronco6778 on Oct 13, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
mcgee
my goodness
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by little stevie colter on Oct 13, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reverse Slam?!
I really want to see highlights of this game…
My swag was phenomenal.
by se7en on Oct 13, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only part that sucked was not getting to watch it. I’m trying so hard not to get excited about this year…
by bronco6778 on Oct 13, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just Give In
The blissful and biased hope is so worth the emotional disappointment in the end.
My swag was phenomenal.
by se7en on Oct 13, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dont get me wrong i love our team but if the young guys excect for MCGEE dont get it soon we need to make a move if we really are in a win now mode
Randy Foye
Andray Blatche
Nick Young
Mike James expiring
future 1st
for
Richard Hamilton
Jason Maxiell
Will Bynum
by eltacoman on Oct 13, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hahahahahaahahahahahaha
sorry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Oct 13, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
giving up too much potental right lol yeah we still got a long way to go im just saying if our young guys play like young guys then we might need to bite the bullet and make a trade before they lose there trade value
by eltacoman on Oct 13, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cmon man you have to know that's a bad trade.
Detroit would piss themselves if they got offered that…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Oct 13, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that language was an appropriate response
by Craig_ on Oct 13, 2009 11:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
What's up with the 6 TO for Gil?
I didn’t get to watch the game but isn’t his ridiculously high TO rate scaring anyone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Oct 13, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no foye?
i got the feeling that less foye today means a lot less of gil tomorrow.
by reglw22 on Oct 13, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"I'm a pothole!"
Anyone else just SICK of that pothole radio ad?
My swag was phenomenal.
by se7en on Oct 13, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In two airings that I heard it got worse than every geico ad ever.
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