Competition discussion: Atlanta
The season is still two months away, but most of the rosters are set, barring the requisite Michael Jordan comeback rumor (just kidding, but only a little). We have an idea where our team stands, but we can't really know unless we discuss everyone else. In that spirit, I'm going to throw up a "competition discussion" thread for each of the other 29 teams over the next month or so. We'll go in alphabetical order from A to Z. Today's team: Atlanta.
Last year's record: 37-45
Playoffs: Lost to Boston 4-3
In: Maurice Evans, Randolph Morris, Flip Murray, Thomas Gardner
Out: Josh Childress
Projected starting lineup: Mike Bibby, Joe Johnson, Marvin Williams, Josh Smith, Al Horford
Key themes:
- How will they replace Josh Childress?
- Can a full season of Mike Bibby improve the half-court offense?
- What happens to Mike Woodson if the team starts slowly?
- Will Josh Smith park his butt on the block instead of shooting tons of threes?
- Does Al Horford take the next step?
- Who else on the bench will emerge as a key man?
I'll have more in an hour. Discuss and predict for now.
[UPDATE, 11:17 a.m.]: Got sidetracked last night, so I never ended up finishing this post. Here goes.
Boston series aside, let's all take a deep breath and remember that Atlanta won just 37 games last year. Don't give me the "that's not fair, they didn't have Mike Bibby for 82 games" excuse: they were 23-28 before the trade, 15-17 after it. They did push the Celtics to seven games, but all four of Boston's wins were blowouts, while all three of Atlanta's wins were close games. If we go by point differential, which is the best way to weed out the random variation and truly account for a team's strength, Atlanta didn't even impress in the playoffs.
Now, take that team and subtract Josh Childress. Hollinger loving aside, Childress is a very key loss for that Hawks team. Besides Josh Smith and Joe Johnson, Childress was probably Atlanta's best player. He was second in PER, posted insane shooting percentages (59 eFG%, 64.7 TS%) and, to top it off, was a very solid defender. More importantly, Childress was an outstanding cutter, perhaps the only guy in Atlanta's main rotation that was even competent moving without the ball. Maurice Evans cannot possibly replace all of that.
The last point is key. Despite all their athletes, Atlanta played at just the 17th-fastest pace in the league last year. They were dynamic in transition, but didn't run enough, partially because they were only mediocre defensively and partially because they were a bad defensive rebounding team (sixth-worst in basketball). That meant there were a lot more half-court sets than it seemed, and Childress was great at finding space in those situations. Now, expect to see a lot of Joe Johnson going one-on-one, Mike Bibby shooting ill-advised quick jumpers and Josh Smith floating to the perimeter.
Atlanta's young guys should all get better, particularly Al Horford, who should have been playing more minutes last year. But combine Childress' loss with the return of Mike Woodson, and this team is almost certainly going to be worse.
Prediction: 35-47, 4th in Southeast, 10th in Eastern Conference
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First reaction to the video:
Boy they have a lot of empty seats in Atlanta.
by MR on Aug 29, 2008 10:01 AM EDT 0 recs
Yea, I don't get it....
Atlanta is the 8th largest US media market….so what gives with their lack of support for basketball?
Overall, I think the psyche of the team is on thin ice…..a couple losses, and things could fall apart.
There’s the Mike Woodson vs. Josh Smith deal (hey, if Eddie Jordan and Haywood were able to kiss and makeup, then I suppose there’s hope for anyone).
But for some reason, I just don’t think the Hawks will be able to put it together and make the playoffs. I’d predict a similar record….but no post season. Then again….the top 7 teams that made it in the East last year are locks. After that, the Hawks don’t have much competition for the 8th spots…..maybe the Bulls and Heat at best.
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by Truth About It on Aug 29, 2008 11:49 AM EDT 0 recs
Indiana too
Remember, they were one game out last year, and they added T.J. Ford.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on
Aug 29, 2008 3:15 PM EDT
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To that, I say.....meh.
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by Truth About It on
Aug 29, 2008 4:37 PM EDT
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Atlanta, as a city, has a tradition of being a bad sports city.
Beyond just basketball. I have no idea why.
by Aldo on
Aug 30, 2008 1:34 AM EDT
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Hawks to the bottom
Well, let’s take a look at their schedule.
Wed 29 @ Orlando
Sat 01 vs Philadelphia
Wed 05 @ New Orleans
Fri 07 vs Toronto
Sun 09 @ Oklahoma City
Tue 11 @ Chicago
Wed 12 @ Boston
Fri 14 @ New Jersey
Sat 15 vs New Jersey
Tue 18 @ Indiana
Wed 19 vs Washington
Fri 21 vs Charlotte
Sat 22 @ Cleveland
Wed 26 vs Milwaukee
Fri 28 @ Toronto
Sat 29 @ Washington
Atlanta’s first game is at Orlando, and it gets worse from there.
10 of their first 16 games are away… 9 are against Playoff teams from last year – - – AND the schedule includes 5 back-to-backs in the first month of the season!
If I didn’t know any better, I’d say someone in the NBA Head office has something against the Hawks.. Brutal !!
If they go 6 wins and 10 losses to open the season, I’d be surprised.
There’s a good chance that this team will implode, with the mecurial Smith leading the way…. Woodson’s job may be in jeopardy after only 20 games in the season.
I predict a complete melt down -
28-54, 5th in Southeast, 14th in Eastern Conference
by Rook6980 on Aug 29, 2008 12:51 PM EDT 0 recs
34-48
One guy that hasn’t been mentioned here who could help out next year is Acie Law. I don’t think he’ll play well enough to beat out Bibby or anything, but he could be a factor.
(Note: I’m still dead until Sunday night.)
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by JakeTheSnake on Aug 29, 2008 4:39 PM EDT 0 recs
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I don’t think the playoffs were a fluke. Horford is “for real” and Josh Smith is no slouch. They’re my sleeper of the year and Maurice Evans will help off the bench…
by Jeff Malone on Aug 29, 2008 4:45 PM EDT 0 recs
again
how long have people been saying things like this about the hawks? seems like every year theyre someone’s sleeper pick. im not buying it 30-35 wins seems in order
by joshp on
Aug 31, 2008 6:20 PM EDT
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Big Al
I think the Hawks’ success will hinge on Horford’s development. Good big men make good teams. If he’s a monster on both ends, they’ll be a playoff team again. If he suffers an injury or a sophomore jinx, they’ll struggle like the old days.
Losing a solid unsung contributor like Childress really hurts, and I don’t think Evans can fill that gap.
"Now, obviously individual production does not unilaterally equal better team production, but there's a high level of causation."
by Vanilla Gorilla on Aug 29, 2008 6:02 PM EDT 0 recs








