James Posey

by Jheiser3 on Jul 2, 2008 9:56 AM EDT

Celtics extend offer to Maggette - The Boston Globe

Bartelstein said "a lot of people are interested" in his client. An NBA source said the Wizards are "very interested" in Posey, and could make an offer once their situation with marquee free agent Gilbert Arenas is settled.

I doubt he waits long enough to get him, but he has been known to follow the money. Posey would bring a deefnse and 3 point shooting, who doesn't need that? Not sure I love the idea of locking him up for 4 or 5 years at 6Mil though.

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I'm glad...

To hear that the Wizards are “very interested”

I wonder how Gilbert Arenas, the Assistant GM, feels about Posey.

Next year would be his 10th in the league…he’s always been relatively healthy.

31 is not decrepit…..but yes, 4 or 5 years for him is too long.

He made $3,206,000 last year. The most he made in his career was $6,392,100 the year before in Miami.

I think the most the Wiz could offer him (depending on Gil of course) is the full MLE….say it rises to $5.6 million.

Would people be comfortable with 3 years and around….$17.8 million (with about 6% raises)?

I would.

But the problem is that more prominent contenders may offer him the full MLE too.

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by Truth About It on Jul 2, 2008 10:28 AM EDT 0 recs

considering our need

yeah, i’d spring on 3 years of the MLE for posey, if he can guard lebron that is.

my only issue is i don’t really like him much because i think he’s a borderline dirty player.

by DarrellWalkerFan on Jul 2, 2008 10:44 AM EDT 0 recs

Where does Posey play?

I love posey, and think he is a great addition to any team. My question is where does he play? Butler plays 40ms at the 3, Jamison and Blatche play most minutes at the 4, Stevenson and Young at the 2…now he could be an upgrade over Blatche and back up 3 in the near term, but would that hurt the long term development of those guys? Would that be giving up on them?

I see minutes being an issue already, and just don’t see how Posey “fits”

by Blatche4MVP on Jul 2, 2008 11:04 AM EDT 0 recs

minutes

I’m not worried about his minutes at all:
-Mason was playing 20+ minutes a night to begin with.
-Posey can play the 3 and allow Caron to play 32 minutes a night instead of 40+. Caron just got fresher for the playoffs.
-Nick is not yet a guy you bring in to defend, so Posey would be Eddie’s default choice there as well.
-He’d take some of Deshawn’s time depending on match-ups.

If you look at a depth chart there then yes, are names already in these slots. If you look at it like a game with 5 positions and a total 240 minutes there are a lot of possibilities.

I had another guard in mind for the same kind of role, Mo Evans.

by Jheiser3 on Jul 2, 2008 11:22 AM EDT up 0 recs

I Remember

I remember Posey’s name coming up back when we were trying to trade Juan Carlos Navarro last summer. The consensus here at the time was against it because we didn’t feel Posey was good enough. Here is what Prada had to say when the rumor came up last year:

Wow. I really hope this is just a smokescreen or that there’s a lot more to this, because Posey straight up for Navarro is about as awful as it gets. Posey’s a nice veteran guy and still is a decent defender, but his skills are eroding fast. He’s only had a PER above the league-average once, and he’s looking for the full MLE. Trading Navarro, arguably the best guard in Spain, straight up to a division rival for Posey is an incredible waste of a great asset. There’s simply no way that’s the whole story. I’d imagine Etan Thomas or Brendan Haywood is out there for Posey instead of Navarro.

How things have changed. Posey was a key contributor to the Celtics championship while JCN floundered in Memphis (although he did torch us for something like 27 points in one game) and is now heading back to Barcelona after only one season.

I hope I’m not the only one here who has changed my mind about Posey. I think he’d be a great addition to this team, even at the full MLE, if we can afford it.

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by cuppettcj on Jul 2, 2008 11:17 AM EDT 0 recs

Yes!

I take back everything I said last summer about the guy. He certainly redeemed himself.

I’d go over the tax to sign him now. He’d be worth the full MLE, though I’d be wary about anything more than a 3-year commitment.

3 years and a little under 18 million sounds good to me.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Jul 2, 2008 11:21 AM EDT 0 recs

Buying at a high?

Doesnt it always seem that a guy has a huge playoffs, plays much better then he had been, and then gets rewarded with a contract way above high actually value? I am just always nervous about a knee-jerk reaction to saying that just because Posey was huge in the playoffs, that he deserves an $18M contract. I think he is a great player, but do we really want to tie up $30M in AD, Etan, Haywood, Songalia, and Posey. I mean our bench is already full over over paid vets, do we need another? Do you think Posey really puts us over the edge? Because if he does, he is worth it, but if not all this does is continue to limit our flexibility…

by Blatche4MVP on Jul 2, 2008 11:27 AM EDT 0 recs

I'd Rather Overpay for Posey...

... then overpay for Roger Mason Jr.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Jul 2, 2008 11:35 AM EDT up 0 recs

Legitimate concern

I agree, which is why I’d rather have him on a three-year deal, so that he expires at the same time we need to re-sign Caron. Plus, if we sign Posey, we’re definitely into the luxury tax, so the overpaying thing carries less weight.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Jul 2, 2008 11:44 AM EDT up 0 recs

posey has done it before

his contribution isn’t a flash in the pan. he played a big role when the heat won the title and he’s been a very good role player everywhere he’s been. he’s nowhere as good as robert horry, but he’s turned into that kind of player and would be a boon for the wizards, filling a desperate need for someone to spell caron for a bit.

speaking of minutes, EJ needs to town down the 40+ per night for each of AJ, CB, and GA. is it any wonder we can’t stay healthy for the playoffs?

by DarrellWalkerFan on Jul 2, 2008 11:50 AM EDT up 0 recs

Couldn't have said it better.

EJ rides the Big 3 hard. If Posey comes in and takes some minutes from CB and AJ without seriously hurting production, I’m for it. But, I’m still not sure that he deserves the full midlevel, and I’m afraid that that is what it’ll take.

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by mamemimo on Jul 3, 2008 10:52 AM EDT up 0 recs

Buying at a high?

by Blatche4MVP on Jul 2, 2008 11:41 AM EDT 0 recs

It's a legit concern

AD was just as valuable before he signed his deal, for example.

I think ideally we’d get Posey for half the MLE, but that’s not going to happen after the playoffs. I definitely think we need a guy like Posey, but maybe there are cheaper alternatives.

I like Posey’s teammate, Tony Allen, for half the MLE. He got buried in Boston, but he’s a very good defender, an excellent athlete, and is going to be one more year removed from knee surgery. They don’t seem to want him back after drafting two wings and devoting so much attention to Posey, so I think we could grab him for something like 3 years/9 million while still staying under the tax.

Anyone else who’s a cheaper alternative?

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Jul 2, 2008 12:04 PM EDT up 0 recs

FYC

Matt Barnes
Michael Finley
Michael Pietrus
Quentin Ross

Cheaper
Mo Evans
Kirk Snyder
Devin Brown

by Jheiser3 on Jul 2, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up 0 recs

Minutes

speaking of minutes, EJ needs to town down the 40+ per night for each of AJ, CB, and GA. is it any wonder we can’t stay healthy for the playoffs? by DarrellWalkerFan

Precisely why getting a guy like Posey is critical to the Wizards success this year and next…

Arenas has a capable veteran backup in Antonio Daniels.

Jamison has a capable veteran backup in Songaila, AND a good replacemnet/backup in Blatche.

Caron cannot continue to play 40+ minutes, but there’s no one else on the Team that Eddie trusts that can play that position well…. (Blatche can play SOME 3, in certain situations, against certain matchups – and McGuire is still too raw)...

Besides – Posey would also cover another Wizards weakness – perimeter defense !

by Rook6980 on Jul 2, 2008 2:34 PM EDT 0 recs

Too Much Competition

Celtics….Wizards…..add the Hornets and Lakers to the mix.
http://slamonline.com/online/2008/07/everyone-wants-james-posey/

It must be good to be James Posey these days.

Chances of the Wiz landing him? Slim to none.

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by Truth About It on Jul 2, 2008 2:56 PM EDT 0 recs

Posey to the Lakers

The Lakers need Posey’s defense way too much to let him slip past.

Posey goes to Miami and helps them win a championship with his rugged defense… gets no long term deal…

Posey then goes to the Celtics and is one of the MOST important defenders/role players/three point shooters on the team in their final run…

Posey goes to the Lakers and instills some MUCH NEEDED defense and puts the Lakers over the hump to win the Ship…

Why doesn’t this dude have a long-term deal by now?

Dear Diary, JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!

by Evander holyfield on Jul 2, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up 0 recs

small forwards in the league

atlanta – marvin williams, josh smith, josh childress
charlotte – gerald williams, adam morrison, jared dudley
miami – sean marion, ricky davis, michael beasley, dorell wright
orlando – rashard lewis, hedo turkoglu
washington – ...

chicago – luol deng, andres nocioni
cleveland – lebron james, wally szczerbiak
detroit – tayshaun prince, jarvis hayes
indiana – danny granger, brandon rush, mike dunleavy, marquis daniels
milwaukee – richard jefferson, joe alexander, desmond mason

boston – paul pierce, james posey, tony allen
new jersey – yi jianlian, bobby simmons, bostjian nochbar
new york – quentin richardson, danilo gallinari, jared jeffries, fred jones
philadelphia – andre igoudala, thaddeus young, rodney carney
toronto – jamario moon, jason kapono, carlos delfino, joey graham

dallas – josh howard, devean george, eddie jones
houston – tracy mcgrady, shane battier, donte green
memphis – rudy gay, antoine walker
new orleans – peja stojakovic, rasual butler, mo peterson, julian wright
san antonio – bruce bowen, ime udoka

denver – carmelo anthony, lina kleiza, eduardo najera
minnesota – corey brewer, ryan gomes, mike miller, brian cardinal
oklahoma city – jeff green, damian wilkins
portland – martell webster, travis outlaw, nicolas batum
utah – andrei kirilenko, matt harpring, kyle korver

golden state – stephen jackson, michael pietrus, matt barnes, al harrington
la clippers – corey maggette, quentin ross, tim thomas, al thornton
la lakers – luke walton, vlad radmanovic, trevor ariza
phoenix – grant hill, boris diaw
sacramento – ron artest, john salmons, francisco garcia

by DarrellWalkerFan on Jul 3, 2008 4:26 PM EDT 0 recs

who could be targeted?

here’s my list:

josh childress
james posey
michael pietrus
matt barnes
john salmons
tony allen
trevor ariza?
julian wright?

looking at the small forwards in the league, a lot of backups already have bigger contracts than what the MLE would be… i’d say posey is definitely worth the full MLE based on the market.

by DarrellWalkerFan on Jul 3, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up 0 recs

I think....

Ariza, Wright, and Childress may be out of our league.

Of the rest, Posey holds the least chance of coming to DC.

I wish Ivan Carter and Mike Jones could get more of a read on who the Wizards are interested in. Ernie runs a tight ship….even unnamed sources seem to be mum.

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by Truth About It on Jul 4, 2008 11:02 AM EDT up 0 recs

Ivan

Ivan mentioned Matt Barnes today but I didn’t get the feeling that name was coming from inside the organization.

by Jheiser3 on Jul 4, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up 0 recs

Salmons contract is prohibitive. I like Barnes, Pietrus and Michael Finley. The question with Finley is how much the rest of the Spurs defense made him look good. I thought he had a pretty good defensive rep though. Is that right? While everyone is chasing the younger models we could add a guy who has been there and done it.

Thing with Barnes and Pietrus is they’re closer to 3/4’s than they are a 2/3 like Posey. If we miss on Posey and don’t want to add an NBAARP guy in Finley, we could do worse than Mo Evans. He is a defensive upgrade to RMJr, and shot nearly as well from as our resident sharpshooter.

by Jheiser3 on Jul 3, 2008 8:34 PM EDT 0 recs

Finley seems washed up to me

I’d take Evans though. I wish he’d be big enough to play the three, but it’s not a terrible alternative.

There’s also Devin Brown, who we almost signed last offseason. I’d take him for cheap.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Jul 3, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up 0 recs

i think of all three of those guys

as 2 guards. like i do, say, jerry stackhouse. but i could be wrong.

by DarrellWalkerFan on Jul 3, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up 0 recs

i.e.

might as well sign roger and plan on playing stevenson as a backup 3.

by DarrellWalkerFan on Jul 3, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up 0 recs

Ole

Did Devin Brown look old to anyone else? Looked it up, he turns 30 in December. Evans turns 30 in November so thats a wash.

Evans is an elite athlete though and tested that way during his draft combine. He’d be a defensive upgrade over RMJr and he shot 39.6% from 3 while with Orlando. Roger shot 39.8%. Yeah, I like Mo.

One trade name: Milwaukee just traded for a 3 and drafted one too. That makes Desmond Mason expendable. Downside: no 3pt shot.

by Jheiser3 on Jul 3, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up 0 recs