Open Thread: Summer League game 3
by Pradamaster
on Jul 18, 2008 6:02 PM EDT
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My tape cut out a pretty big portion of the Philly game, so I haven't been able to type up notes from that one yet. In light of the heavy postgame discussion, I've decided to focus on Nick Young's offense. I'll try to get it done tomorrow.
This is the thread for tonight's game against Cleveland. Those viewing will get a look at J.J. Hickson, the man picked one spot after our own JaVale McGee. Hickson's been pretty impressive in Summer League thus far.
This one's not on Comcast (it's being pre-empted by a Mystics game. No really), and it's not on NBATV until 10:30, so says my TV. Those watching live will probably have to do it on NBA.com, and there's a 30-minute delay on that.
I'm out tonight, so I'm taping the NBATV broadcast and watching it tomorrow. Let me know who I should track. I'm hoping to do Oleksiy Pecherov, but it appears he'll miss yet another game.
GO (Summer)WIZARDS!
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I didn’t watch tonight…... how awful did he look?
by stevie on Jul 18, 2008 10:17 PM EDT 0 recs
I didn't either.....
But 5 points on 1-9 shooting says enough,
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by Truth About It on Jul 18, 2008 10:31 PM EDT 0 recs
At least Blatche played better…22 points and 9 rebounds.
by hibachi on
Jul 18, 2008 10:56 PM EDT
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Good news to report
So, I watched my first NBA game on the computer tonight. The damn site locked up just after the half, but I have good news to report. The youngsters played very well tonight. You would not have recognized the play from the previous two games.
Everyone played very solid defense, ran the offense, made passes, and hit open looks. Dominic McGuire was all over the floor, hitting a 3, playing good defense, making passes.
JV McGee, well, let me just say this: Wes Unseld Jr. needs to take him aside and say, “Look kid. We have three all star scorers on this team. You are not allowed to shoot the ball. Your job is to rebound and box out. If you knock somebody over, we might call a post up play for you.” He did have one play, however. It was a goal tend, but amazing to see this kid jump fully extended for the ball. Man, he is tall and can jump.
Young Nick played ok in the first half, but obviously didn’t score. I did see him get a few rebounds and just generally play more under control. He also played point for a long stretch and didn’t have any turnovers.
Andray “I’m a gymrat now” was his usual self. He looked like a man among boys at times and made bonehead plays at other times. He tried to pass to Young Nick BEHIND the basket. Now that was ugly.
Forbes and Wallace both stroked some nice threes. I didn’t really notice Dee Brown much, if he was even in the game. Double V had a flash, but he’s a scrub. Rest easy tonight, boys. It was a solid effort that makes you feel better about the bench.
When the season starts, their jobs will be to enter the game and play smart and aggressively and under control. They did a good job running the offense and being patient for their shots, while also working hard on the defensive end.
Oh, I almost forgot. JJ Hickson is a beast. He had two blocks in a period of about three minutes, and a nice throw down as well. Yeah, we passed on him. Whatever.
by Unselds on Jul 18, 2008 11:07 PM EDT 0 recs
Second half, meh
The Wizards ended up winning the game, but the last quarter was pretty much a win of attrition. Young Nick air-balled another three, and Andray continued to play well.
Two snapshots for you: JV McGee got a put-back dunk off a miss from Wallace or one of the guards, and then raced to the other end to draw a charge. He still shot the ball too much, and missed too much, but he’s got nice moves in the post. He has moves that Brenden will never have. Of course, most players do, so talk amongst yourselves.
The other snapshot is Dee Brown. It was his only highlight and his only real play of the game, but he stole the ball under the hoop and went coast to coast for a lay in. He got right back on defense, and showed serious quickness in that sequence. That’s all I have to say about him.
Taser played great. Andray played, well, better than the others. He had some very nice offensive plays, and got blocked like a punk on one, but the numbers speak for themselves. Nick was terrible the whole game. Good night.
by Unselds on
Jul 18, 2008 11:53 PM EDT
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I caught the last few minutes of the game
I think both teams combined went for something like 2-20* at the charity stripe down the stretch. Dave Hopla has some work ahead of him this summer.
It was nice to see Andray and Taser show some off his crunch time skills tonight, good on ‘em.
- - minor exaggeration, but still, really bad.
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by JakeTheSnake on Jul 19, 2008 12:13 AM EDT 0 recs
saw second half only
McGee looked good to me. A lot of his probs are just strength. He makes too many moves and spins and dribbles too much inside. I THINK it is because he doesnt have the strength to lean in and take it straight to the hoop with confidence. Someone spoke to him because he passed up every open shot he had from the outside.He has a LONG way to go but looks like he is already listening to whoever is talking to him. He looked active and less obsessed with blocks on defense. He might learn to actually play D with his feet., not this year but someday soon.
I think that I have yet to see Dee Brown turn his speed into basketball plays. I am not a fan . . yet. Based on this very minimal time watching, I like Forbes better. . . not that they are head to head for a roster spot or anything.
Nick must have had a good first half to even get mentioned because he was ugly to watch in the second.
FWIW the guy I like to watch when he comes in is Vermeenko. Sometimes he looks like he floating aimlessly ot there but other times he seemingly ends up in the middle of things and you arent sure how.
by Lucky Horseshoe on Jul 19, 2008 12:30 AM EDT 0 recs
elegar
Where oh where did Elegar’s minutes go?
Does anyone else get the impression Taser would be doing the same thing against anyone?
Couldn’t watch the game, Internet pretty much useless.
I also think I’m a fan of McGee not shooting. As long as those shots aren’t going to this version of NY
If only we could trade Taser for one day and have him put up 30 on us off their bench before we got him back...
by Juice over Whine on Jul 19, 2008 1:39 AM EDT 0 recs
McGee: Go ahead and shoot
It’s summer league, not the playoffs. Why not let the guy practice a little bit? Develop. See what works against competition that’s better than he’s faced before.
by MR on Jul 19, 2008 7:41 AM EDT 0 recs
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In the Summer League games, I wanted to see:
JaVale McGee hold his ground on a Defensive rebound, just ONCE – still waiting
Andre Blatche DOMINATE portions of the game, like we know he can. – He has done that.
Nick Young play one good stretch of DEFENSE – still waiting
Dom McGuire hit one OUTSIDE JUMP SHOT. – Satisfied (in Spades)
Pecherov play basketball WITHOUT twisting an ankle – OH well….
Veremeenko DUNK the basketball. – still waiting
Wes Unseld Jr. call for the Princeton WEAVE – still waiting
Some things I’ve taken away from the first three games….
Veremeenko (Double V) knows how to play the “team” game… and he will NOT do well in Summer League. SL is more about shooting, and individual moves. It’s very guard oriented. But I have noticed that he likes to mix it up inside. He’s a pretty good rebounder in traffic. He’s not terribly quick, but he manages to stay in front of his man on defense. But I was expecting a more athletic Songaila – and I haven’t seen any athleticism; so he just looks like a taller Songaila.
Dee Brown is very quick – but he hasn’t translated his quickness to playmaking. He has hit a couple of outside shots, which was the knock on him. I’ll reserve judgement until Training Camp and the first few Pre-season games.
Nick Young looks lost – but based on what we saw last year, he should come around. I sure don’t see any improvement in defense…although he seems to be trying on that end of the floor.
Dom McGuire looks like he really did work on his shot over the summer. He’s looked very comfortable shooting his J in the first three games. He’s also picked up just where he left off last year as a pretty good defender and rebounder.
JaVale McGee – I promised myself to give the kid a year… so I will. He’s very athletic, but sometimes that does not translate into a good NBA player. I’ll just wait.
Andre “Gymrat” Blatche – Is it me? or does Andre look bigger? NOT taller, but bigger in the arms and shoulders? Every time I look at Blatche, and think if he stays in the weight room, we could be looking at a 7-foot Karl Malone…
by Rook6980 on Jul 19, 2008 9:14 AM EDT 0 recs
Blatche (outside of health) is the key for next season. If he is filling up box scores coming off the bench with the occasional start, the Wizards will be in fine shape. Hopefully, he makes the 4th year jump ala Jermaine O’neal. That would go a long way to improving our roster. The only question could become, who do you start?
by zeke5123 on
Jul 19, 2008 10:57 AM EDT
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Dee Brown
Thoughts? Personally, I think Johnathan Wallace has looked better. AB and D-Mac continue to look like the best we have out there. Hopefully, NY can get put together some solid minutes before the end of the weekend. He’s too good for people to call him a bust, but maybe this slump provides some motivation for more work in the upcoming months.
by AndNone on Jul 19, 2008 11:20 AM EDT 0 recs
Less than 3 weeks of practice
is what these guys have had. It is extremely hard for a point guard to have a good read on what guys can and can not do with so little time together. Watching McGee last night prove what I have been saying all along, he is coachable (he showed vast improvement in every facet of the game) and he has physical tools that can not be taught. Wizards have a chance to have their version of an Andrew Bynum type development in 2-3 years. One of the keys to next season period is Blatche. Wizards have a potential FRANCHISE player. It is up to him. Wizards need to take the kid gloves off when dealing with NY, but it’s still way too early to write him off, especially based on summer league games.
by LoneWiz54 on Jul 19, 2008 3:31 PM EDT 0 recs
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