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Open Thread: The draft

UPDATE: Draft Express calls shenanigans on the Head-and-25-for-18 rumor, but says the pick is very much up for grabs.  Thanks to Jake for the link.

And so it begins.  Draft Day 2008 is finally here.  The rumors keep trickling out, but we're just four hours away from getting all the answers.

This is your official draft thread.  For those who haven't been around for Bullets Forever game threads, they seriously kick ass.  The new platform means that any comments automatically show up on the page.  You don't ever have to click "Refresh" in order to keep up with the conversation.  Just sign on to your computer, open up this post, and watch other people's comments' show up automatically.

I'm definitely going to be around, though I'm having a couple friends over as well.  You all should be here too.

Also, post any pre-draft rumors you here between now and the beginning of the draft.  In his ESPN chat, Chad Ford addressed the rumored trade with the Rockets thustly:

Ken (New Braunfels, TX): Is there any truth to the rumor that the Rockets are trading their pick at 25 along with Luther Head, to the Wizards for their pick at 18??

Chad Ford: The Wizards and Rockets have had talks but nothing is done. I do think the Wizards are trying to move this pick ... they're talking to several teams in the 20s but Rockets look like their best option right now.

For what it's worth, Ford has Marreese Speights falling all the way to 25 in his final mock draft.  If we trade down AND got Speights, it would be beyond awesome.  I doubt he lasts that long, though.

No matter what, it's draft time.  Any predictions on who we pick?   List 'em here. 

GO WIZARDS!

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Adding Head and Speights??

I’d be AMPED

Dear Diary, JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!

by Evander holyfield on Jun 26, 2008 2:52 PM EDT   0 recs

Two links

The first comes from Dan Shanoff. All I’m going to say is that it involves Calbert Cheaney.

Here’s what Draft Express said regarding the Head rumor:

Rumors that Houston will trade up to the 18th pick in exchange for Luther Head and the #25 have been called "completely false" by sources with knowledge of the situation. The Wizards like Roger Mason much more than Luther Head and don’t consider him any kind of upgrade to what they have already.

Here’s the link:
250-PM-EST-2950/” target=”_blank”>http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Word-on-the-Street-Draft-Day-Rumblings-250-PM-EST-2950/

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by JakeTheSnake on Jun 26, 2008 3:15 PM EDT   0 recs

Good

As I said in the other thread, this trade would be too risky. This is the most unpredictable draft I’ve seen in a long time. There’s a good chance that neither Speights nor Hibbert will be there when we draft at 25. I’d rather grab one of them than take Head and the garbage that’s left late in the first round.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Jun 26, 2008 3:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Or

Or that the person speaking didn’t realize that Mason was a FA. Honestly don’t think this effects a potential trade in any way. Its almost weird that they bothered to denounce it.

by Jheiser3 on Jun 26, 2008 3:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yea, but

Immediately denouncing a rumor is always the standard regardless of how true it may or may not be.

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by Truth About It on Jun 26, 2008 4:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Richard Jefferson to Milwaukee?

Just heard this on ESPN. Straight up for Bobby Simmons and Yi Jianlian.

Huh?

Also heard Seattle and the Clips are swapping picks.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Jun 26, 2008 3:45 PM EDT   0 recs

Not strictly a draft trade, I don't think

But Yi Jianlian and Bobby Simmons for Richard Jefferson:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/basketball/nba/specials/draft/2008/06/26/yi.jefferson.trade/index.html

Seems odd at first to me. I thought Yi would’ve been a good piece for the Bucks to build around. Ian Thomson’s take on it is that the Nets are thinking ahead to make a play for Lebron.

by Aldo on Jun 26, 2008 3:45 PM EDT   0 recs

Jefferson doesn't play defense

So why would Milwaukee want him?

I don’t get it for either side.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Jun 26, 2008 3:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Does this trade change draft?

Where are the nets playing to play Yi? Is VC on the block as well?

by zeke5123 on Jun 26, 2008 3:53 PM EDT   0 recs

I like it for both sides

but only if Yi doesn’t turn out to be Dirk

Dear Diary, JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!

by Evander holyfield on Jun 26, 2008 4:04 PM EDT   0 recs

He won't

I’m pretty confident in saying that.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Jun 26, 2008 4:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hmm...

I guess Milwaukee could still take him at 8, but if not, he might take a tumble.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Jun 26, 2008 4:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

not far

Indy with those two picks can take him at 11, if he gets by NJ at 10. They will have negated Milwaukee’s interest in him, allowing them to draft him if Charlotte passes. Well played Mr. Thorn.

by Jheiser3 on Jun 26, 2008 4:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

NJ could take him

But why would Indy want him when they already have Dunleavy and Granger on the wing?

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Jun 26, 2008 4:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe

Maybe they donb’t want to pay Granger, or want to try to move Dunleavy since he had a career year. I was just thinking it gives them a pick to play with and take a pet player since they can still get a 4 later.

by Jheiser3 on Jun 26, 2008 5:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

2 hours left

I’m tired of waiting.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Jun 26, 2008 5:04 PM EDT   0 recs

Kevin Love

would fit in great with the Bucks. Starting 5 of Mo Williams, Redd, RJ, Villanueva/Love, Bogut

Dear Diary, JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!

by Evander holyfield on Jun 26, 2008 5:12 PM EDT   0 recs

why is it?

that i still don’t think the bucks are a playoff team?

by DarrellWalkerFan on Jun 26, 2008 5:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

They're young

Maybe not a playoff team next year but with a few more additions and experience they have a good squad.

Dear Diary, JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!

by Evander holyfield on Jun 26, 2008 5:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Because nobody plays defense

Seriously, who will guard anybody on that team?

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Jun 26, 2008 5:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No one

But if D’Antoni was coaching there he would make them a 50 win team.

That is, if he could wrestle the ball out of Mo’s hands.

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by JakeTheSnake on Jun 26, 2008 5:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Bird/McHale

But only if you consider Larry a big. And if you consider McHale white.

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by JakeTheSnake on Jun 26, 2008 6:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i disagree

all those guys are vets at this point.

i think it’s that they’ll still make the wiz look like the spurs defensively

by DarrellWalkerFan on Jun 26, 2008 5:19 PM EDT   0 recs

skiles will go nuts

trying to get that team to play defense.

if the players don’t go nuts first.

by DarrellWalkerFan on Jun 26, 2008 5:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The Celtics said they went nuts with Tom T. last year

Skiles is a good hire for the Bucks, because they sure do need to go nuts.

Dear Diary, JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!

by Evander holyfield on Jun 26, 2008 5:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Feeling

I feel like we end up with Darrell Arthur. Heard his name linked to the Wizards a lot and I don’t think anyone looks at him besides Philly at 16. I’d be OK with the pick, but the guy I really want is Speights.

And I’ll just throw two names out there for the second-round pick…Jamont Gordon and George Hill.

by MikeMid on Jun 26, 2008 5:35 PM EDT   0 recs

If Weaver falls to 47

I will be all kinds of stoked.

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by JakeTheSnake on Jun 26, 2008 5:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, me too

Kudos to Rook for pointing him out first.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Jun 26, 2008 5:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

IF

If Ernie does move back to the bottom of round 1, why not take Weaver there?

by Jheiser3 on Jun 26, 2008 5:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If it came down to Gordon or Weaver....

It’d be tough, but I’d be for Gordon.

His attitude might not be ready, but he has more star potential…..I think.

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by Truth About It on Jun 26, 2008 6:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I have no idea.

I feel like something crazy is going to happen. This is awesome. Hurry up.

by Romans12 on Jun 26, 2008 6:01 PM EDT   0 recs

Half an hour

The suspense is killing me

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Jun 26, 2008 6:31 PM EDT   0 recs

Uh oh...

Ivan Carter is telling people to look out for Walter Sharpe with the 47th pick.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/2008/06/draft_night.html

Not good….considering.

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by Truth About It on Jun 26, 2008 6:44 PM EDT   0 recs

Blatche and Sharpe!

There’s no way that could go wrong.

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by JakeTheSnake on Jun 26, 2008 6:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What do we call them?

Mango and Cash?

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by Truth About It on Jun 26, 2008 6:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hopefully not Cheech and Chong

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by JakeTheSnake on Jun 26, 2008 6:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Damn

Combine that with Ford predicting him for us in his Mock and I don’t like what I’m hearing.

by MikeMid on Jun 26, 2008 6:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Less than 10 minutes

Holy crap!

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Jun 26, 2008 6:52 PM EDT   0 recs

/Fires tranquilizer

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by JakeTheSnake on Jun 26, 2008 6:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Here we go

I love how Stu said this is the 43rd draft in the common era

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Jun 26, 2008 7:03 PM EDT   0 recs

Sleeper

Whose your sleeper in the draft? Eric Gordon is one of my favorite players this year.

Dear Diary, JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!

by Evander holyfield on Jun 26, 2008 7:06 PM EDT   0 recs

I can't believe I'm saying this

At least among lottery players, I think Joe Alexander is the biggest sleeper out there.

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by JakeTheSnake on Jun 26, 2008 7:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That dude's highlight reel is one of the sickest I've ever seen

He’s a lock for the dunk contest

Dear Diary, JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!

by Evander holyfield on Jun 26, 2008 7:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Too bad

He will lose to The City!

by zeke5123 on Jun 26, 2008 7:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Assuming they go in the 20s...

I think Mario Chalmers and Marreese Speights are being undervalued and would qualify for the label.

by MikeMid on Jun 26, 2008 7:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Speights

He’s got so much room to grow, and he already was so good in college last year.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Jun 26, 2008 7:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed with Gordon

I think he will be very, very good.

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by Truth About It on Jun 26, 2008 7:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Rose is going 1

There goes the suspense there.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Jun 26, 2008 7:06 PM EDT   0 recs

WTF

O.J. Mayo’s glasses.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Jun 26, 2008 7:18 PM EDT   0 recs

Sigh

The image-consciousness and posturing is just getting annoying, now.

by MikeMid on Jun 26, 2008 7:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If I was Mayo...

I would have too. It wouldn’t hurt my stock or get me thrown in jail, why not get free pizza and HDTV’s. He was smart enough to be a rational actor, at least in a strict monetary sense.

by zeke5123 on Jun 26, 2008 7:26 PM EDT   0 recs

3 minutes and counting

Dear Diary, JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!

by Evander holyfield on Jun 26, 2008 7:27 PM EDT   0 recs

Final predictions

On who we pick?

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Jun 26, 2008 7:30 PM EDT   0 recs

Hibbert's my prediction

Dear Diary, JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!

by Evander holyfield on Jun 26, 2008 7:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Second that!

And here we go!!!

by zeke5123 on Jun 26, 2008 7:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

My feeling is Arthur

But now I’ll go with Speights.

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by Truth About It on Jun 26, 2008 7:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Staying with my gut

And saying it’s gonna be Arthur

by MikeMid on Jun 26, 2008 7:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

(Crosses fingers)

I’mma go with Hibbert.

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by JakeTheSnake on Jun 26, 2008 7:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Kevin Love!

I’d laugh, but no.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Jun 26, 2008 7:38 PM EDT   0 recs

Dear Miami

Please take Mayo. Thanks.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Jun 26, 2008 7:42 PM EDT   0 recs

Dammit

Hopefully there’s a trade.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Jun 26, 2008 7:43 PM EDT   0 recs

Hold out and say you won’t play for anyone but the Wizards, Beasley!

by MikeMid on Jun 26, 2008 7:43 PM EDT   0 recs

Well, It will be interesting...

when he plays his home town team. I am all for that. The 18th for Beasley, sounds fair, right?

by zeke5123 on Jun 26, 2008 7:44 PM EDT   0 recs

Let’s toss in a player to be named later and a ham sammich to make it fair.

by MikeMid on Jun 26, 2008 7:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Stu says

“He says ‘I’m not pullin any kind of muscle’”

Dear Diary, JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!

by Evander holyfield on Jun 26, 2008 7:51 PM EDT   0 recs

Now

The first interesting pick of the draft. This will help shape the lottery…

by zeke5123 on Jun 26, 2008 7:52 PM EDT   0 recs

Westbrook?

You reach, I teach.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Jun 26, 2008 7:56 PM EDT   0 recs

Wow

I like what Presti is trying to do for his squad with this pick. Defense wins championships.

Dear Diary, JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!

by Evander holyfield on Jun 26, 2008 7:56 PM EDT   0 recs

Maybe Westbrook...

Is supposed to be his Tony Parker.

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by Truth About It on Jun 26, 2008 7:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd say more of a Rondo

With a jumper?

Dear Diary, JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!

by Evander holyfield on Jun 26, 2008 8:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

REACH

Sorry – I honestly think Westbrook won’t be much better than another 4th pick….our very own AD

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 26, 2008 7:56 PM EDT   0 recs