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The official Finals thread

UPDATE: Bumped again for Game 6.  Might this be the last game of the NBA season?  I think it will be.

UPDATE: Bumped to be the Game 2 thread.  Comment on the game here.

I've got Lakers in 6 really close games.  Predictions and thoughts on this series go here.

To get you ready (and to get to 75 characters), here's one of the many YouTube videos on the series.

Still not enough?  I'll just keep copying my prediction over and over again. 

Lakers in 6

Lakers in 6

Lakers in 6

Lakers in 6

Lakers in 6

Lakers in 6

Lakers in 6

Lakers in 6

Lakers in 6

Lakers in 6

Lakers in 6

Lakers in 6

Lakers in 6

Lakers in 6

Yo! This represents the view of the user who wrote the FanPost, and not the entire Bullets Forever community. We're a place of many opinions, not just one.

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Celtics in 7

I think that the home court advantage will be very important for the Cs.

by Truth About It on Jun 1, 2008 8:27 PM EDT   0 recs

Celtics in 7

I actually don’t have that much confidence in my prediction but I can’t stomach the thought of Kobe winning so it’ is more wishful thinking.

by ooba on Jun 1, 2008 9:16 PM EDT   0 recs

Chug a lug

Swipes the bottle from Truth and gulps down a big swig.

Celts in 7

"Now, obviously individual production does not unilaterally equal better team production, but there's a high level of causation."

by Vanilla Gorilla on Jun 2, 2008 11:48 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

But there's a difference

And unfortunately….most of us have been grouped in with your run-of-the-mill haters who dislike people/places/things for no good reason…..other than jealousy, etc.

However, in my opinion, Kobe Bryant has given his detractors many reasons to feel the way that they do.

by Truth About It on Jun 2, 2008 12:40 PM EDT   0 recs

Boston in 7

7 hard fought, grueling games; with no one winning a road game.

by Rook6980 on Jun 2, 2008 5:48 PM EDT   0 recs

Lakers in 6. Kobe versus the Big 3 are a wash. Its the advantage of having Derek Fisher and Phil Jackson that topples Boston. I’ve thrashed Phil in the past but he earns every nickel of his salary in the post-season. Going up against Doc Rivers is just not fair to Doc.

by Jheiser3 on Jun 3, 2008 12:18 PM EDT   0 recs

Lakers in Five

The Lakers have the pedigree, the best coach, the best player, the better overall team. The Celtics have struggled through the playoffs, The Lakers are 12-3. Did I mention they have the best player on the planet? I don’t buy into this mystical home court advantage. If the Pistons can win at the Garden, the Lakers sure can. So yeah, the Black Mamba gets his fourth.

by zeke5123 on Jun 4, 2008 3:12 AM EDT   0 recs

Game 1 Line - Thoughts?

Are people surprised that the Cs are favored by 3 points in game 1?
Sheridan’s odds – USA Today

I was talking to a co-worker…big Lakers fan (actually from LA, so he gets a pass) and we thought that the Lakers being favored by 1.5 might sound right….both realizing that the game is in Boston.

by Truth About It on Jun 4, 2008 9:05 AM EDT   0 recs

My official prediction...officially

Celtics in 7.

Kobe plays magnificently, but KG’s D on Gasol and/or Odom is the difference.

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by JakeTheSnake on Jun 5, 2008 5:15 PM EDT   0 recs

Its kinda sad watching Tom Thibodeaux’s defense effect Kobe’s play versus the CELTICS. Ayers has a good rep, but we had better and ran him off.

by Jheiser3 on Jun 6, 2008 11:32 AM EDT   0 recs

Lakers in 7

Kobe with something freaky to end it

by Evander holyfield on Jun 7, 2008 9:40 PM EDT   0 recs

refs

are ruining this game w/ their bogus calls against the Lakers. That said, I liked the Lakers coming in but Boston has really turned it up a couple notches in the Finals. Is the inconsistency of the first two rounds finally in the past? I see this one going to Game 7 and I don’t even want to predict who wins until i see how the injuries play out…but I think the Lakers will put it all together.

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 8, 2008 10:34 PM EDT   0 recs

UHH FUCKKING OH

LAKERS DOWN 4 WITH 22 LEFT…

RADMANOVIC STEPS UP!!!

by Wooz on Jun 8, 2008 11:47 PM EDT   0 recs

Did he just do that?

I’m actually happy the C’s won that game, because the series is as good as done.. 3 in a row at Staples with THAT comeback? pleaaaaaase
S-H-O-B-E

oh yea i caught that sneak attack as it happened wooz

by Evander holyfield on Jun 8, 2008 11:50 PM EDT   0 recs

Wow...

The Lakers got jobbed… badly. Not only was every call going the C’s way, but phantom calls were being whistled, and there was a complete lack of calls for the Lakers. A few of my favorite Tom Donahoe calls:

In the first, Kobe is called for a defensive and offensive foul. Interestingly enough, what Kobe did to Ray Allen to get his offensive foul, Allen did to Kobe before Kobe fouled him.

Early on in 2nd quarter Farmar drives, is grabbed from behind, misses the shot as a result, leading to a fast break three the other way because of lack of whistle.

Also in the 2nd Ronny Turiaf blocks Powe’s shot – a clean stuff. Lakers get the rebound and push the fast break. But no, they called a foul on the follow through of a clean block.

Later on Gasol converts an extremely tough alley oop. KG has an arm in his side, then hacks his arm. No And1, yet Turiaf was called for the follow through on a clean block?

Late in the fourth, Kobe drives, Pierce grabs him, blatantly – the announcers even say it – yet no foul is called.

40-10. Call it both ways. I thought Bill Simmons and Tom Donahoe were calling this game.

by zeke5123 on Jun 9, 2008 12:09 AM EDT   0 recs

Yeah

That was pretty ridiculous.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Jun 9, 2008 12:10 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Second that

I’m not a Lakers fan by an means (neither am I a fan of the Celts….this is all obvious), but damn.

It’s not like the Celtics were getting calls, the Lakers were just the victims of some very bad ones.

by Truth About It on Jun 9, 2008 10:42 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Sorry guys

I didn’t mean Tom Donahoe as in former Bills GM. I meant Tom Donaghy, the dirty ref.

by zeke5123 on Jun 9, 2008 12:18 AM EDT   0 recs

If you think...

the calls aren’t going to be reversed in LA, please. We’ll be back in Boston for game 6 with the Celtics up 3-2.

"My only regret is that I have boneitis." - That Guy on Futurama

by Wizards on Jun 9, 2008 8:52 AM EDT   0 recs

My observations

I missed a good bit of the first quarter, but saw the rest of the game.

-Like several other guys here, I don’t have a dog in this race, although I am a KG fan from way back and am sorta rooting for the Celtics to win as a result. That said, I thought the refereeing very unfairly favored the Celts. I didn’t see the first two fouls on Kobe in full context, but the replays made them look marginal. It’s not like he didn’t do anything, but that kind of contact is routinely not called. The third one, plowing into a Paul Pierce screen, wasn’t very debatable. But I thought Kobe got a lot worse then he gave. He was getting bumped, pushed, hand-checked and man-handled every time he put the ball on the floor. He made a few tough shots in those cases, but he missed most of them. If he gets half those calls, it’s a different game. None of the reffing with regard to other players seemed that bad to me - none of the other Lakers are as dynamic as Kobe and the Celts have a much easier time controlling them when they can keep Kobe in check by using such physical tactics.

I will disagree a little with some of the criticism of the Turiaf call on his block of Powe. It wasn’t just a little contact on the block—he could not have gotten the ball without clobbering Powe, so i don’t have a problem with the foul call.

—In the fourth quarter, with their big lead, you could see the Celtics assume the game was over and they stopped playing. Their body language betrayed the absolute lack of focus and purpose. I remember on one play, after the Lakers had already cut the 24-point lead down to 16 or so, Pierce was called for a foul and just started laughing. Not the sarcastic kind of disagreement you often see, but the kind of laugh that suggested he didn’t care because it didn’t matter since the game was over. I thought then that it was a very bad sign for the Celts. The Lakers didn’t just give up because they were down by 24 points. Once you shut it down like the Celtics did, it’s really hard to turn it back on, which is why you have to keep playing hard, even when you have a big lead in the fourth quarter.

—Paul Pierce is really establishing a legacy for himself in these playoffs and in this series. I don’t buy into the whole “faker” thing from game 1, but obviously, he wasn’t nearly as badly hurt as he made it seem. That said, he was provided the Celtics with terrific all-around play. I’ve always considered him an excellent scorer, but he’s also shown a terrific flair for leadership, as well as good defense and playmaking, in the finals. When the Lakers cut the lead to 2 points in the last minute, it was Pierce who got himself to the line to make it a 2-possession game. If he keeps playing like this, he’ll have a Finals MVP award to go along with a ring. At that point, I think he puts himself in the HOF discussion, even though his career up to this point has been very good but not great.

"Now, obviously individual production does not unilaterally equal better team production, but there's a high level of causation."

by Vanilla Gorilla on Jun 9, 2008 11:34 AM EDT   0 recs

Yeah on Pierce

I always felt his production was outstanding, but the intangible parts of his games held him back. That’s not the case now. He should definitely be a Hall-of-Famer win or lose.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Jun 9, 2008 12:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

pierce

i think pierce got a bad rap. he pretty much carried a mediocre boston team on his back to consecutive eastern conference finals before ainge blew the team up. i’ve always been impressed with that. he morphed into a ball hog that takes too many bad shots in recent years, but he had pretty much no help, so it’s hard to blame him too much. i think he’s finally getting some of the recognition he deserves for being a great player.

boston will still have their work cut out for them to win the series though. i expect LA to dominate game 3 (along with most people i’ve talked to).

aside: does anyone else think there are too many playoff games? how long has it been since the wizards were ousted? like a month? these seven game series drag on too long in my opinion. it takes too much effort to watch all these games.

i wonder if the NBA would get significantly more of an audience for the games they did have if they had less of them? i’m a huge NBA fan (obviously) and i skipped most of the conference finals.

by DarrellWalkerFan on Jun 9, 2008 3:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Game 7

All you can really ask is that teams play competitively. This makes all 7 games essential (and great). I personally want every series to go 7 games. Especially conference finals and this series. Kobe with 15 4th quarter points game 7!

by Evander holyfield on Jun 9, 2008 3:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Very physical game so far

...expected from more than one story line

by Evander holyfield on Jun 10, 2008 9:30 PM EDT   0 recs

Jesus (Shuttlesworth) Saves

Bullets Forever: Where fancy numbers and YouTube come together.

by JakeTheSnake on Jun 13, 2008 12:08 AM EDT   0 recs

Where's Rick Fox?

He once gave Ray-Ray the ultimate assist.

by Truth About It on Jun 13, 2008 11:57 AM EDT   0 recs

Pshhh you Lakers

The Lakers kinda look like bums out there. The Celtics play WAY better D, rarely take a possession off, and just look like they want it much more than the Lakers. KG is the man on the block on D, Paul looks like Larry, and Ray Ray is Ray Ray. These guys need a Ship. I’ll still give that guy his 20 bucks, but I’m rooting for the Celtics (but I still would like to see it go 7).

Dear Diary, JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!

by Evander holyfield on Jun 17, 2008 12:44 PM EDT   0 recs

The Perfect Scenario

Boston is burned to the ground after the Celtics win.

by Truth About It on Jun 17, 2008 4:00 PM EDT   0 recs

How do you post a pic?

Dear Diary, JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!

by Evander holyfield on Jun 17, 2008 8:54 PM EDT   0 recs

This pic must have a web address

Then just click the green tree and post the link.

by Truth About It on Jun 17, 2008 8:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I thought all that rah-rah stuff....

was hogwash at the beginning of the year. I thought KG and the others all acting like long lost frat brothers who have nothing but love for each other and the change in the “culture” would all wear thin eventually, but they never lost enough games to lose the faith. Night after night the Celts played harder (and smarter) than almost anyone else this year. I thought the magic had worn off after two 7-game series against far inferior opponents but I guess something really clicked again in that Detroit series.

Kudos to you, Celtics, for a season well done – I hate you, but there is no question you are the best team in the NBA.

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Jun 17, 2008 10:42 PM EDT   0 recs

Amen.

In a related note, KG’s post game interview might just be the greatest thing I’ve ever seen.

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by JakeTheSnake on Jun 18, 2008 12:36 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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