We need a offseason shakeup not breakup

by johnnyv on May 23, 2008 2:45 PM EDT Comment 15 comments

I think we should resign Arenas & Jamison , trade and draft some defensive roll players... i got three trades that i think could help the Wizards & draft picks

1)Wizards trade Etan Thomas, DeShawn Stevenson maybe 09 2nd pick to the Bulls for Larry Hughes (Larry can create his own shot plus he play good defense and next to Gilbert again maybe he can return to his old form)

2)Wizards trade Darius Songaila, Roger Mason (s&t) to the Knicks for Jared Jeffries ( Jared is 6'11 sg/sf/pf a very versitle defensive player that we miss, plus i remember the good defense he played on Labron James in the 06 playoffs

3)Wizards trade Antonio Daniels, Oleksiy Pecherov, Memphis 1st to Memphis for Kyle Lowry, Brian Cardinal ( 22 old Lowry is a strong fast true pg, he really hustles on defense and has alot of passion for the game, he can provide a ben gordan type of spark off the bench )

DRAFT Roy Hibbirt (7'2 280, 4 years of college, he is nba ready smart big man) he is a solid backup C, very safe pick or if Marreese Speights, Joe Alexander, Darrell Arthur or Donte Greene are there then then that would be a better pick too

With the 2nd pick someone like James Gist, Othello Hunter or Joey Dorsey might be there too (those PF's are strong athleticly gifted guys, they can pound and slam the ball in the post, come up with hard rebounds, basicly out hustle most other players in the post, lots of energy) hopefully one can provide a Jason Maxiell type of game for us

WIZARD 08/09 season roster
1ST TEAM - 2ND TEAM - 3RD TEAM
PG- Gilbert Arenas - Kyle Lowry - FA
SG- Larry Hughes - Nick Young - FA combo guard
SF- Caron Butler - Jared Jeffries - Dominic McGuire
PF- Antawn Jamison - Andray Blatche - Brian Cardinal

C - Brendan Haywood - Roy Hibbirt (18th pick) 2nd round PF

We would have 4 guys that could drop 20 points a night, i think we would be the highest scoring team in the nba .... and still have a good group of defensive guys to put in the mix ... also a very deep bench that could provide alot of high energy clap clap clap it would be a good shake up for the team, that would not mess up the chemestry Hughes and Jeffries know the system very well

Hughes, Cardinal & Lowry have 2 years left
Jeffries has 3 years left

Etan & Daniels have 2 years left
Songaila, Deshawn & Pecherov have 3 years

we would have shorter contracts and would save like 5 million in 2010 off season

clap clap clap clap clap

let me know what u guys think Wink

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You can't sign and trade Mason

I’m pretty sure.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on May 23, 2008 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i think so too-

he’s an unrestricted free agent

by ooba on May 23, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

wow … so if we sign him to a new contract we cant trade him ? do we have to wait till the season starts ? maybe a 3rd team could be involved to get the deal done

by johnnyv on May 23, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think you are correct -

I think I have this wrong. From wiki on salary cap issues:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Salary_Cap

When a team is willing to sign an upcoming free agent, but the player’s current team wants something in return, it might be in the best interest of both clubs to execute a sign-and-trade deal. This occurs when one team signs one of its free agents and immediately trades that player to another team. A sign-and-trade is beneficial to both the player and the teams; the player receives a bigger contract than he might ordinarily get from a team that he would like to play for, while the trading club gets something in return for a free agent, and the recipient of the trade, obviously, gets the player they desire. Sign-and-trades are a reality in the NBA because of the CBA’s rules: unlike baseball, where teams losing free agents are compensated with draft picks or cash, NBA teams that lose free agents receive no compensation.

When a team initiates a sign-and-trade agreement, it must trade the signed player immediately; teams cannot renege on the arrangement and keep the player for themselves, using the other team’s financial situation to leverage the signee into a more favorable deal for themselves. Also, the contract signed before the trade must be for at least 3 years, with the first year guaranteed.

If a newly-signed player is not immediately traded away in a sign-and-trade, his new team must wait until December 15 of the calendar year in which he was signed or three months after the date on which he signed, whichever arrives later, before they can trade him again.

by ooba on May 23, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

At first I wanted Larry Hughes back but I realize now that we really don’t need his ugly contract and I get the feeling that he’s past his prime and will continue to decline next season.

Backbone of the DMV

by NY1 on May 23, 2008 4:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Jared Jeffries?

Say it ain’t so. If we get him, I’m gonna have to start rooting for the Clippers.

The Washington Wizards: providing career scoring nights for unknown opposing bench players since 2004.

by mamemimo on May 23, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yea....Jared Jeffries is....

Soft like goo.

I wouldn’t trade Songaila’s jock strap for Va-JJ.

by Truth About It on May 23, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You forgot

Trading Gilbert Arenas for the 2003 Michael Jordan, and swapping Caron Butler for the 2003 Jerry Stackhouse, and trading Antawn Jamison for Christian Laettner.

I admire the creativity, but why would we want Hughes and Jeffries back when we already let them go?

Lowry is interesting, but if we’re looking for a young point guard, why not just draft someone like Lawson at 18?

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on May 23, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

We could use Jeffries. He sealed his own fate when he signed that deal though. I see no point in taking on his deal or Hughes’.

Getting the 04-05 band back together for a reunion tour is not the answer.

by Jheiser3 on May 25, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Etan Thomas

No one is taking him in a trade. No one. Why do people assume anyone will trade for a marginal backup C with a bad heart and two years before having an expiring contract? Remember that Isaiah is no longer a GM. He would’ve been our only hope.

by YellaFella on May 27, 2008 11:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I Don't Think it is Impossible

Teams will take Etan, but only if he’s packaged with someone else they really want. Something along the lines of an Andray Blatche or a Nick Young. To be honest, I would actually consider giving up Blatche just so the Wizards could dump Etan’s contract and use the luxury cap space to pick up a proven low post defender.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on May 27, 2008 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good gosh...

I sure hope that Pollin would bite the bullet and head into luxury tax land before we are just jettisoning guys like Blatche to pick up cap room.

Point is….I agree with you that a team is not taking Etan unless they are getting something valuable in return….but at the same time, the Wizards should not just give up a prospect like Andray without getting as nice piece back.

by Truth About It on May 27, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Thing About Blatche

It seems like a lot of Wizards fans look at Blatche the same way they used to look at Kwame. I remember talking to another Wizards fan back during the ‘04-’05 seaon when the Wizards were winning a lot of games and shocking everybody. I told him that the Wizards had a ton of potential and could go deep in the playoffs in a few years, but they needed to dump Kwame because he was a big bust. This guy was like, “No way! He’s still so young! He’s going to be huge someday, we can’t let him go to another team, he’ll kill us!” This guy couldn’t get over the fact that Kwame had so much potential and believed that that potential would eventually come to fruition. We all know better now.

I’m not saying that Blatche will be another bust like Kwame. No one knows that for sure. But what we do know is that he is little more than a big bag of potential at this point. He may be great, or he may be another Kwame. I’d say it’s about a 50-50 chance either way. Under different circumstances, I would say let’s wait and see, but the Wizards have a glaring need on defense and in the low post, and Blatche’s stock may never be higher. If the Wizards can use him to dump Etan’s horrible contract and receive a proven (as opposed to potential) low post player, I’d say go for it, depending on the player.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on May 28, 2008 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't underestimate.....

....The value of good hands.

The thing I’ll always remember about Kwame is that he had smallish hands for a guy his size.

Now, I can’t testify to the size of Andray’s hands…..but judging from his passing skills, and overall observation of his game, I’d say that his hands are larger and stronger than Hoe Cake Brown’s.

In my eyes….it’s a pretty big differentiator when judging potential.

by Truth About It on May 28, 2008 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Blatche is not a good enough prospect, even with his tiny contract, for someone to take on Etan too.

Lets not forget Aundray was still the youngest guy on the team. He clearly has more skills than Kwame had or ever will have. I have no idea how good he will be but he still has more value to the Wizards as a team member than he does as a trade chip.

by Jheiser3 on May 28, 2008 1:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs