Wizards Future Part IVb: New Additions (Wings and Guards)
This is the part 4b of a four part series assessing the future of the Washington Wizards. Part 4a focused on free agent big men and a trade possibility for Blazer big man, Joel Pryzbilla (our SB Nation colleague from BlazersEdge has since stopped by and nixed the deal......and probably rightfully so).
A couple of readers expressed that a greater need is for a wing man/guard....someone who can serve as a backup for Caron Butler. I agree, and that's one of the reasons I listed a lock-down perimeter defender as need #1 in part 3 of the series. Earlier parts were hosted on Truth About It Dot Net and you will find those links below.
The Washington Wizards Future
Part I: The Situation Room, Part II: The Assumptions, Part III: Needful Things
Like last time, I'm going to list select statistical ratings which are most in tune with team needs. Each player will be rated using True Shooting Percentage (TS%) from KnickerBlogger.net. I'm also going to use the John Hollinger numbers of Rebound Rate (Reb-R) for obvious reasons, Assist Rate (Ast-R) because passing skills are always wanted, and the famed PER as a general evaluation. Finally, I'm adding each player's 3-point percentage for their career.
Tony Allen
(Restricted, Boston Celtics) 6-4, 213, 26 years
TS% - 52.7
3P % - .316
Reb-R - 7.3
Ast-R - 16.5
PER - 10.83
- Plus: Allen is a slashing athletic monster who uses his ability to create turnovers. His on-ball D is solid when he is not gambling. He has the strength to hit the boards on both ends. Allen seems like a "slasher"….meaning I've seen his ability to get to the FT line.
- Minus: D'oh….can't shoot….can't dribble…turnover city. This year's FG% was by far the worst of his 4-year career. And the Wizards definitely don't need another guy with a history of knee injuries and guns.
Mickaël Piétrus
(Unrestricted, Golden State Warriors) 6-6, 215, 26 years
TS% - 54.9
3P % - .353
Reb-R - 9.8
Ast-R - 9.3
PER - 12.88
Piétrus has always been an intriguing player, but hasn't lived up to his potential as a former 11th overall pick in 2003…..and hasn't turned out much better than the guy picked right before him, Jarvis Hayes.
- Plus: Lengthy athleticism…sounds good to me as he uses that to defend (steals, blocks, boards). Pietrus can also shoot from the outside, making 1 trey a game, attempting 2.8 per. Hollinger says that he likes to shoot from the corners attempting 82.6% of his threes from those spots (of course, that was in 06-07)....but I think that attracting defensive attention to the corners would really help drivers like Arenas and Young.
- Minus: Can't guard guys bigger than him and is less than adequate at ball handling (passing and dribbling). He was in the Warriors 8-man rotation this past season, but didn't show as much improvement as hoped for (especially in a contract year…Piétrus signed a 1-year $3.47 million qualifier last year). His PER actually went down as offense was a struggle in 07-08.
Kirk Snyder
(Restricted, Minnesota Timberwolves) 6-6, 225, 24 years
TS% - 57.3
3P % - .327
Reb-R - 9.6
Ast-R - 18.6
PER - 13.50
From his days with Nevada making Sweet 16 runs in the NCAA tournament, Snyder seemed like an all around baller.
- Plus: Can play defense against multiple positions, In 27 games with Minnesota, he showed his best rebounding and passing skills averaging 4.2 and 2.1. He has the ability to get high% shots.
- Minus: Won't extend the floor with long distance shooting, Doesn't seem to have the quick and hustling D to get many steals, Not an ideal replacement for Roger Mason.
Devin Brown
(Unrestricted, Cleveland Cavaliers) 6-5, 220, 30 in December
TS% - 49.4
3P % - .341
Reb-R - 8.5
Ast-R - 20.2
PER - 11.45
I used to love watching this guy with the Spurs in 04-05 when he was averaging 7.4, 2.7 boards and 37% from three. He balled with the Hornets in 06-07 before signing with Cleveland for a year….but that was also when New Orleans was depleted by injuries leading to signing Brown in mid-season and garbage time minutes.
- Plus: Rebounds well as he is the same height as Roger Mason, but bulkier; Hits the trey ball; Before the season, our friend Hollinger compared Brown to Ledell Eackles….normally I'd say this is a good sign….but that might fall under the Hollinger Jinx: not sure if the comparison is to the good or bad side of Eackles….whatever it may be, Grunfeld needs to do the opposite.
- Minus: Defense is not a strong point….he's never seemed quick. Our need is for more of a stopper.
Keith Bogans
(Unrestricted, Orlando Magic) 6-5, 215, 26 (tomorrow, May 12)
TS% - 55.9
3P % - .353
Reb-R - 7.0
Ast-R - 13.1
PER - 10.99
I've seen Bogans play in person many times as he starred at DC area's DeMatha High and went on to play at the University of Kentucky. He's always struck me as a utility player.....does a lot of things well, but nothing great. He holds a player option on $2.55 million for next year.
Bogans' teammate, Keyon Dooling is also an interesting prospect. Dooling is smaller, a better mid-range shooter, a better distributor, and quicker than Bogans. However, Dooling can be a gunner and I'd rather have the strength and rebounding of Bogans.
- Plus: He's got size to defend three positions; His 3-point shooting has improved as he got the green light to shoot more this season (averaging 5.0 attempts per game (a career high by 1.9), and 1.8 makes (a career high by 0.8).
- Minus: Scouting reports say that his arms aren't very long; His time in Orlando has been spotty as he's received fair chances to solidify himself in the lineup, but played less as the season progressed (averaging over 32 minutes per game the first two months of the season, and less than 24 minutes the final four months). Bogans has averaged 7.0 points and 29 minutes in the playoffs so far.
Quentin Ross
(Unrestricted, LA Clippers) 6-6, 193, 27 years
TS% - 43.0
3P % - .286
Reb-R - 6.6
Ast-R - 18.4
PER - 7.72
He's been billed as a defensive stopper, so you know I wouldn't mind him on the team…Ross might be a desperate BAE gamble ($1.91 million).
- Plus: Mid-range game, Decent rebounder for thin frame, Bothersome defender.
- Minus: The knock on his game going into 07-08 was lack of offense, and his stats got worse. He's a bad FT shooter. Seems like the Michael Ruffin of guards.
Chris Duhon
(Unrestricted, Chicago Bulls ) 6-1, 185, 26 in August
TS% - 50.8
3P % - .356
Reb-R - 4.4
Ast-R - 36.9
PER - 11.28
Would I want this guy over Roger Mason?
- Yes: He's a comparable 3-point shooter, better ball handling and passing skills, better defender than MaseOn.
- No: Not as good a scorer as Mason, Duhon is 4 inches shorter, Duhon went to Duke and he is not from Washington, DC.
And evidently, Duhon is known for partying….not sure on whether that's a 'yes' or a 'no'.
Trevor Ariza
(Player Option, LA Lakers) 6-8, 210, 23 in June
TS% - 56.8
3P % - .209
Reb-R - 11.0
Ast-R - 18.6
PER - 16.18
I'm with Prada here….well, I wouldn't call Ariza a personal favorite, but I do like the guy's game. Ariza can board, run the floor and is a great, quick defender. Unfortunately, he can't shoot, can't really drive, and his FT shooting is crap. That being said, I'm not sure how much Ariza would give us over Dominic McGuire and why we would want to pay him a ton to do that….as I don't exactly see him declining $3.1 million to play with the Lakers next year.
Royal Ivey
(Unrestricted, Milwaukee Bucks) 6-4, 215, 26 years
TS% - 48.7
3P % - .331
Reb-R - 4.8
Ast-R - 24.1
PER - 8.96
- Plus: Ivey has decent size and can push the ball in transition. I remember him being able to penetrate and distribute into the Wizards zone this season. Defense is Ivey's strong point.
- Minus: He's not the worst three point shooter, but he doesn't take many...making only 35 on the year.
Even though Hollinger compares Ivey to LaBradford Smith in being most similar at age, I'd rather him be a last ditch option. I'd like to have him as a defender, but his youth, inexperience at the point and lack of perimeter game would keep him at the end of the bench.
Yakhouba Diawara
(Restricted, Denver Nuggets) 6-7, 225, 26 in August
TS% - 51.8
3P % - .297
Reb-R - 6.2
Ast-R - 18.4
PER - 8.25
Defensive stopper? Maybe…that's what "they" say. But Diawara leaves a lot to be desired on offense…..a lot. He's more of a training camp invitee than a free agent signee. In fact, I'm not even sure why he's on this list.
Others? C.J. Miles, Jazz (too young), Kevin Ollie, 76ers (too old), Maurice Evans, Magic (I think Orlando would rather keep Evans than Bogans), Tyronn Lue, Mavericks (too small), James Posey, Celtics (I'm betting he takes his $3.462 million player option for next year).
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Final Thoughts
Guys like Pietrus and Bogans stand out to me. They are decent defenders, have some size, a touch of shooting ability, and they can help the team on the boards (something the Wizards need more of at the backup wing position).
If you have Gilbert Arenas and his renewed distribution capabilities along with Antonio Daniels at the point, and Stevenson and Nick Young at the 2 spot, then an addition with the ability to play the 3-spot might fit in very well with this team.
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this is pointless
Frankly im a little disappointed with the ambitions of everyone around here. Yes the big three led us to being the number one team in the eastern conference standings last year during the beginning of the season. But we were nothing more than a poor mans phoenix suns and everyone has seen how far phoenix is able to get in the playoffs.
If we stay put as is and add a couple of these marginal nobodies we will at most go to the eastern conference finals and most likely lose in the first or second round. Why be complacent. Yeah we sucked for a long time but that doesn’t mean we should just sit around and act like our current play, which lets face it, is a little better than mediocre is acceptable..
We need to blow things up if we have real championship ambitions. Barkley is right defense and rebounding wins championships. We should be blogging about all possible sign and trade deals for studs who can bring that to the Bullets. Why couldn’t a sign and trade with Gil or Jamison for Brand be possible. Id even take Kayman and Magete.for Gilbert and Brendan if the Clips threw in a 1st rounder. Theres got to be other possibilities out there even with the nbas cap rules. Lets get them rolling!!!!!
by crichter44 on
May 11, 2008 5:08 PM EDT
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Alright
You start.
That was a nice fire and brimstone speech, but it means nothing unless you have a compelling solution. This isn’t about complacency, it’s about reality. I guarantee you that if you proposed a compelling trade that works with the cap and is feasible, you’d get very good responses.
Besides, you know what wins championships? Good teams. Not defense and rebounding. They’re a part of the picture, but great teams do everything well.
Truth’s posts are just about looking for players that could be signed for the mid-level exception. They aren’t end-all solutions.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on
May 11, 2008 6:10 PM EDT
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You've heard what's coming from the Wizards front office just as much as I have
Do you really think that Ernie Grunfeld is going to blow this team up? That possibility sounds very slim.
The assessment of what’s out there simply fits into the most likely scenarios.
by Truth About It on
May 11, 2008 8:48 PM EDT
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Pietrus
I like Pietrus, good solid defender, can shoot the three ball, can run the floor, and is looking for a new home to try to prove himself. I have been impressed with him everytime I see GState play and keep in mind that if Arenas gets back to 100% we’ll be back to running up and down the floor.
My problem with Tony Allen is that he has a limited offensive game and is simply a defensive stopper. Ariza just spent half the season out due to injury, we don’t need another recovering player on this team. Duhon could be nice but where does he fit behind Arenas/Daniels?
I think Pietrus will be a valuable player here, he can play the 2 or the 3 which gives us options and doesn’t force us to play Young less and slow down his developement.
How about a thread about what we’re going to trade the 18th pick for?
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by NY1 on
May 11, 2008 6:56 PM EDT
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Go right ahead
I think it’s an interesting question, and one we’ll certainly talk about, but feel free to accelerate that discussion by writing a FanPost.
I’m still in this-season mode, and will be until I do a couple player evaluations, so I don’t necessarily support what Truth is saying, but I’d rather stay out of the “what do we need to do this offseason” discussion until many of you guys post your ideas.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on
May 11, 2008 7:21 PM EDT
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Part 4c
Was going to take a look at Rookies and Overseas possibilities.
by Truth About It on
May 11, 2008 8:45 PM EDT
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Speaking of Warriors
Does anyone think Matt Barnes might work here? I remember playin a great role in the defeat of the warriors. He didn’t play too well this year considering he was basically on a contract year, but that might just mean we may be be able to get a good bargain in him.
he’s a good sized SF who hustles.. and he rebounds ok..
jus throwin another name out there…
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by eva.future on
May 11, 2008 11:25 PM EDT
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whats his defense like?
I liked him a lot last year (didn’t see much of the warriors this year).
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by Icantfeelmyface on
May 12, 2008 2:03 AM EDT
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i'd take barnes over pietrus
pietrus can’t dribble or pass and is a turnover machine. his roll on offense is to sit in the corner and shoot spot up threes and occasionally sneak down the baseline for an alleyoop. he’d be a terrible fit in the wiz offense.
i used to love tony allen, but he hasn’t looked the same after his second knee injury.
ross seems to have fallen out of the clippers rotation, which can’t be good. plus, we need someone that can score a little bit when caron’s out.
by DarrellWalkerFan on
May 12, 2008 10:36 AM EDT
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Call me crazy
But I voted for Ross here. No, he’s not exactly the most offensively gifted player in the world, but neither was our current starting SG when he came here. Just give him some time Jordan and Hopla and they’ll find a way to make him useful on offense while providing rock solid D. Pairing him and Stevenson together in late game situations where you need a stop would be huge.
Pietrus would probably be my second choice here, but only because I don’t think we’d be able to get Ariza.
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by JakeTheSnake on
May 12, 2008 12:08 AM EDT
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I voted Ariza
But you are right – we can’t get him. I think Ross might be the best combination of fit and availability. I still feel like someone will slightly overpay Pietrus and hand him a shot at a starting role…
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by Icantfeelmyface on
May 12, 2008 2:06 AM EDT
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Duhon would be my choice...
For two reasons. First, and most important, he can keep the opposing PG in front of him. Dribble penetration and kick-outs were the main culprit in our horrid 3-pt. defense. Second, he’s a pass-first point, like Daniels.
by YellaFella on
May 12, 2008 8:43 AM EDT
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Duhon wouldn't be a bad idea, but it depends.....
On what will be the coaching philosophy with Gilbert Arenas.
Will he really be more of a distributor? Or will Eddie Jordan eventually say eff it and use him more at the 2 spot. If it’s the latter, then the team could use an additional play-maker.
But I have a feeling that this won’t be the case and Duhon would be caught as the 3rd guard off the bench (after Daniels and Young)...a situation that he might not be willing to come into.
by Truth About It on
May 12, 2008 10:12 AM EDT
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I don't think it's that crazy
As Ross might be the best bargain.
by Truth About It on
May 12, 2008 10:01 AM EDT
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I like Pietrus
I’ve seen him play a few times for GSW. I’m not sure what he did to find his way into Nellie’s doghouse, but when I saw him play, he appeared to be a good shooter and an athletic, active defender. He seems bigger than the 6-6 he’s listed at, which is more than I can say for most of the other guys on this list.
From the list here, I’m also favorable toward Bogans and Ariza. Does anyone know Kelenna Azubuike’s status with GSW. I’ve found him more impressive that Pietrus, but he seems to have found his way out of Nellie’s favor as well.
One guy I’m pretty sure I would pass on is Snyder. He looked phenomenal in college, and those numbers aren’t awful, but he’s been traded a bunch, and it appears that an attitude problem has been a part of that.
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by Vanilla Gorilla on
May 12, 2008 10:58 AM EDT
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A couple thoughts...
I voted for Pietrus, but I believe that he’s going to get more money somewhere else. That being said, I’d like to see what Bogans could do here as he was pretty good for Orlando. Ross wouldn’t be half bad either if Hopla can work some magic with his offense.
However, I’d like to throw in two other Orlando players that might help out a bit… Redick and Cook. Redick has a couple more years on his contract and Cook has two left at 3.5m each season. These guys are just extra options as I think the players listed have a better shot ending up here.
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by Wizards on
May 12, 2008 11:15 AM EDT
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Reddick in D.C?
Yeah… I really can’t see that. I didn’t go to Maryland and I’m not a huge college basketball fan, but I still despise that guy just from being tangentially associated with Maryland. Duhon or other Dukies can play for the Wizards no problem, but I just can’t see bringing Reddick in here and giving him a shot at building his career. Also, in practical terms, the dude would come in here with less cache than Arvis and Kwame combined, meaning one bad minute and he’d be getting booed. That’s not a scene that leads to success.
I like Pietrus or Duhon, though I agree that it’s probably gotta be a 3 instead of another guard, so I voted for Pietrus.
by sierradave on
May 12, 2008 7:06 PM EDT
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Plus.....on Redick
Regardless of how you feel about him…..(I don’t care for him)....
He’s got a huge target on his back when comes into games…..whomever he is guarding is going to go at him all night. And this Wizards team doesn’t need that kind of liability.
by Truth About It on
May 13, 2008 10:10 AM EDT
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Plus
ULlimately what I’dclike to do is move Deshawn in a package for a better backup Center than Sonaglia. So we’d be replacing Deshawn while increasing Nick Young’s minutes. Lets not forget Ernie began talking to Devin Brown’s agent before coming to terms with DS.
Guys not mentioned:
Mo Evans, Orlando
Bruce Bowen, I realize its an unlikely trade
Kareem Rush, Indy
Fred Jones, NYK
by Jheiser3 on
May 12, 2008 4:21 PM EDT
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Is there a market for DeShawn?
I wonder, especially after this year’s playoffs, what other GMs think of DeShawn.
Do they view him as a potential cancer who just happened to find a niche in DC?
I did take a look at Rush and Jones, but ultimately left them out of this piece for lack of defense.
Orlando (surprisingly) traded Ariza for Evans and Cook…..I have the feeling that they really want to retain Evans.
by Truth About It on
May 13, 2008 10:08 AM EDT
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DeShawn's Reputation
I’m not aware of any negative reputation that DeShawn had prior to LeBron talking smack about him to Drew Gooden. If anything, I think other GMs would admire how he plays through pain and usually gives good contributions as a starting SG. The first Hornets game in New Orleans really stands out in my mind when I think of DeShawn’s play this season.
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by cuppettcj on
May 13, 2008 11:06 AM EDT
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Well, there's Utah
But that was when he was young and Sloan can be difficult in his old school ways.
I really don’t think DeShawn is a bad teammate….but would just be curious about an outsider’s perspective.
by Truth About It on
May 13, 2008 12:16 PM EDT
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He’s a defensive 2 with a decent 3pt%. He’s coming off his best season which is tough because he became known for talking when he had played so well all year. I think the market for DeShawn would be to play next to other ball-hungry players. Thats one reason I targeted Denver as one landing spot. JR Smith is going into his restricted year and could wind up else with Denver so far into the luxury tax.
Deshawn would help them defensively and give them a 2 that doesn’t require a ton of shots playing with Carmelo and Iverson. I could also see him playing off of Baron Davis, McGrady, or as a reserve. Ernie got him at market rate but not so much that teams would be scared off. Denver loses Najera and could replace him with a taller more skilled version in Songalia. Would those pieces and a pick land Nene or Camby? idk. I’ve read they prefer to move Camby.
Camby’s contract is interesting in that it gets cheaper with time. Trading for him you’re actually taking on 2 years and 15.6M. Nene has 4 years and 41M left including his player option.
Evans has been on 5 different NBA rosters now. I think that deal was meant to provide Howard with a jump shooting 4 (Cook) with Evans as salary filler. Everybody wants one of those 4’s to make room near the basket. The Magic are over the cap with only 10 players under contract for next season though. And they’d have to use an exception to sign Evans.
I think Jones had a defensive reputation until he got to NY. At 6’2 he doesn’t offer much in the way of size to defend opposing 2’s.
by Jheiser3 on
May 13, 2008 5:12 PM EDT
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I'm a little late to this party
But while I agree that Denver would love DeShawn, I don’t see the point in trading him for yet another big.
What I think we really need is a bigger player who can guard threes. That’s why I voted for Pietrus.
And I don’t want Barnes … he was bad this year.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
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May 13, 2008 9:29 PM EDT
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