Open thread: Game 5
by Pradamaster
on Apr 30, 2008 3:49 PM EDT
in Game Threads
Washington @ Cleveland
UPDATE: Gilbert is done for the season. (HT: Mr. Ben Q)
No analysis, because it's all here .
Some pregame links:
Waiting For Next Year: An interview with Dan Steinberg. Props to those guys, who have commented here civilly and have put forth some great content this year. They get the BF stamp of approval.
Wizards Insider: LeBron assessed retroactive flagrant foul.
DC Sports Bog : DeShawn dons a Michael Vick jersey. Fanhouse is outraged, We're Off to See the Wizards is disappointed. Me? I don't care. He can wear whatever he wants.
DC Optimist : Things we have "Witnessed."
True Hoop : Link roundup and thoughts on Gilbert taking the last shot in Game 4.
Brian Windhorst: Give the Wizards credit.
There's really nothing else to say.
When when we come back, here's our motivation. (HT: The Bog).
0 recs |
310
comments
EmailComments
Picks
Well I’m more optimistic than I was on Monday so I’ll go with the wizards. This team tends to surprise me when I give up on them. Hopefully they will rebound and Caron will show up for a full game.
by ooba on Apr 30, 2008 4:29 PM EDT 0 recs
interesting comment from today's WaPo chat
Michael Lee: Six, sir. It’s a TNT thing. They want to get the Celtics-Hawks on primetime. Who woulda thunk it? The Wizards have played so poorly that they get bumped by the Hawks for primetime. Sad times indeed.
that about sums up my feelings about the wizards play thus far this series.
i hope they turn it around tonight.
by DarrellWalkerFan on Apr 30, 2008 4:47 PM EDT 0 recs
Oh snap!
Gilbert out for rest of postseason according to Washington Post Live.
I’m surprised at how surprised I am.
I swear I don’t want to get into this yet, but there’s no way Gil is getting a max contract next season.
by Aldo on Apr 30, 2008 5:08 PM EDT 0 recs
I don't think even he expects that now
You can tell.
Hopefully he just doesn’t opt-out.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on
Apr 30, 2008 6:15 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Eddie had no idea this was coming - he just found out
Man – I’ve been the biggest Gil fan, but this is just stupid. He can’t leave his team in the lurch like this! The dude needs to grow up.
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Apr 30, 2008 5:16 PM EDT 0 recs
Now that i think about it
I’m sure this has to do with his missed shot and overall poor play last game. Gil, in his weird way, probably decided that the team will be better off w/o him at 75%. Of course, he picks the worst possible time to make the decision. He should have decided that before the playoffs or right after the last game instead of just once again becoming the biggest story that doesn’t have anything to do with the men on the court. I love GIlbert. But he needs to learn how to act like a man. He has a franchise that relies on him, and he just doesn’t get it yet. I hope he does get it someday, and I hope it happens here, but Gil just isn’t making the offseason decisions easy for anybody.
I’m fine with it though – at least we know who is going to battle for us from here on out. Go Wiz!
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on
Apr 30, 2008 5:24 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Here's a link
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2008/04/gilbert_shuts_it_down.html
I really have no idea what to say at this point.
Bullets Forever: Your home for blogging on the dumbest team in the history of civilization.
by JakeTheSnake on Apr 30, 2008 5:23 PM EDT 0 recs
not surprised gil's shutting down
his p/t was creating havoc with the rotation (even though it provided a brief spark in Game 3). But making this decision before tip-off was kinda bad form.
by Pryme on Apr 30, 2008 6:03 PM EDT 0 recs
Too many outside shots
They’re hitting them, but they’re allergic to the rim.
I long for the days of a healthy Gilbert. But everyone’s right, it’s really not okay to not tell your coach that you’re shutting things down. If he’s still here next year (and my guess is he will be, he’s not opting out methinks), he can’t do that.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on Apr 30, 2008 6:20 PM EDT 0 recs
the. wizards. are. playing. very. carefully.
for the most part. You get the sense that they are trying to value every possession.
by Pryme on Apr 30, 2008 6:23 PM EDT 0 recs
There ya go
Caron is really, really assertive tonight.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on Apr 30, 2008 6:25 PM EDT 0 recs
Geez
What is Darius doing?
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on Apr 30, 2008 6:26 PM EDT 0 recs
Oh, geez, here we go again
James overreacts to a hit (this time, one that he initiates) and the entire NBA comes to his rescue.
by Pryme on Apr 30, 2008 6:29 PM EDT 0 recs
HOW DISGUSTING IS THIS?
I hope everyone that can is flipping back and forth between the TNT and Comcast. TNT is actually going along with the LeBron acting job. The all-LeBron love fest actually is causing me physical pain. The refs, the announcers… God that’s why we were supposed to win this series. Fuck man. Cmon Wiz, please win this game.
by KDP on Apr 30, 2008 6:29 PM EDT 0 recs
At the same time
That was a pretty dumb play by Songaila.
I have a dream that someone will at least recognize that both sides have been fueling this fire. When Marv said that the Wizards were doing most of the talking, that just did it for me.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on
Apr 30, 2008 6:32 PM EDT
up
0 recs
It was a total accident though
James in trying to pull his arm away actually caused Songaila’s arm to go into his neck….....LeBron (and the officials) completely overreacted.
by Truth About It on
Apr 30, 2008 6:34 PM EDT
up
0 recs
A guy seated next to Cleveland owner Dan Gilbert.....
Threw a towel at DeShawn Stevenson…...security started to take him out, but Gilbert negotiated and they let him stay in the arena.
This was on Comcast….not sure if they discussed on TNT as I have the volume down on Reggie Miller’s puberty voice.
by Truth About It on Apr 30, 2008 6:31 PM EDT 0 recs
Certainly wasn't on TNT
I watched the whole game on TNT, so I only heard about it afterwards in Deshawn’s post game interview. If it was some random schmoe, I’d have no problem with it. But it was a buddy of the Cleveland owner, so it’s 100% bush league.
by jvflail on
May 1, 2008 12:53 AM EDT
up
0 recs
Makes me sick
I can barely watch when the refs call it like this. LeBron PULLED Songaila’s arm into his throat – DS did nothing wrong! And that towel thing is about as low class as you can get.
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Apr 30, 2008 6:33 PM EDT 0 recs
Of course, I would contest that
LeBron pulled Songaila’s arm into him….at least not intentionally…...but his reaction was classic.
And to think that I kinda thought LeBron James was a decent dude before this series. I don’t think I’ll ever like him again.
by Truth About It on
Apr 30, 2008 6:41 PM EDT
up
0 recs
I agree KDP
I just logged on to make the same comment. Lebron hooks Darius’s arm, Lebron fake acts and gets the tech call. Comcast shows the replay from the other angle and you can see clearly what happened. I switch over to TNT and Marv Albert is calling it a punch, rambling that he should be ejected. Such BS.
Deshawn needs to shoot the pull up J and Caron better keep abusing Wally.
What? They don't have TV in the D-League? Don't watch me, watch TV.
by Mac G on Apr 30, 2008 6:34 PM EDT 0 recs
Darius did nothing wrong
TNT didnt play the other angle like Comcast. Buck is still pissed about the tech and flopping.
What? They don't have TV in the D-League? Don't watch me, watch TV.
by Mac G on Apr 30, 2008 6:35 PM EDT 0 recs
To be fair
I’m out of market, so all I see is TNT.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on
Apr 30, 2008 6:37 PM EDT
up
0 recs
All I saw was Comcast
And I can’t believe TNT said that. Ha.
by Aldo on
Apr 30, 2008 6:38 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Flopajo
That was a ridiculous play.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on Apr 30, 2008 6:35 PM EDT 0 recs
Over the Back?
Come on Blatche, get a body on some one.
What? They don't have TV in the D-League? Don't watch me, watch TV.
by Mac G on Apr 30, 2008 6:37 PM EDT 0 recs
Caron is hitting his threes
About time he takes charge.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on Apr 30, 2008 6:38 PM EDT 0 recs
Well, Gilbert is out
I kinda expected that to happen.
From now on, Caron = Man
Gilbert = 2nd Fiddle…..a side show
by Truth About It on
Apr 30, 2008 6:39 PM EDT
up
0 recs
I agree Prada
He should have taking every shot down the stretch last game.
What? They don't have TV in the D-League? Don't watch me, watch TV.
by Mac G on Apr 30, 2008 6:38 PM EDT 0 recs
It feels like we're losing by 20
The way this game is being called
by Aldo on Apr 30, 2008 6:38 PM EDT 0 recs
excuse my gangsta
but if we go down, I hope DeShawn clocks the fuck outta LeBron as time expires. In fact, if he promises to do it, I don’t care if we win.
side note CARON IS ON FIRE. He’s pulling a Gilbert today. we’re coming home for #6.
by KDP on Apr 30, 2008 6:38 PM EDT 0 recs
it only took five games
but Butler realizes that Wally can’t stop him…
by Pryme on Apr 30, 2008 6:39 PM EDT 0 recs
Reggie
Reggie Miller, great player, terrible announcer. He doesn’t have any clue what is going on. If he calls Marv Albert marvelous one more time…he can’t even freaking say it without slurring.
by the white prez on Apr 30, 2008 6:39 PM EDT 0 recs
Well this is the Caron of the beginning of the season
I like it. Finally someone shows up to play. He knows he’s the BMOC w/ Gil out of the picture.
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Apr 30, 2008 6:40 PM EDT 0 recs
Times like make me glad that I live in DC
And I can listen to Buck and Phil. I wonder what Charles and Kenny will say about the foul on Darius. I hope someone working for TNT saw the other angle of what really happened.
What? They don't have TV in the D-League? Don't watch me, watch TV.
by Mac G on Apr 30, 2008 6:40 PM EDT 1 recs
Eddie basically said what we're all saying in his TNT interview
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on Apr 30, 2008 6:42 PM EDT 0 recs
And TNT guys are trashing him
This is insane.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on
Apr 30, 2008 6:42 PM EDT
up
0 recs
I am shocked.....
F-ing Marv Albert….like I’d really trust anything he says….the dude had a THREESOME INCLUDING ANOTHER MAN for crying out loud!!!
by Truth About It on
Apr 30, 2008 6:47 PM EDT
up
0 recs
what is that Prada?
What? They don't have TV in the D-League? Don't watch me, watch TV.
by Mac G on Apr 30, 2008 6:42 PM EDT 0 recs
They got tangled up and LeBron got in Darius' way
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on
Apr 30, 2008 6:43 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Reggie
“Thats a clear punch”
Marv “Lebron hit himself (sarcasticly)
Reggie thinks they should eject Darius and review the play
by the white prez on Apr 30, 2008 6:43 PM EDT 0 recs
What a SHOT!
Screw Reggie, Lebron hooked his arm to make it look like it hit him on purpose
What? They don't have TV in the D-League? Don't watch me, watch TV.
by Mac G on Apr 30, 2008 6:43 PM EDT 0 recs
Can Blatche actually do something out there?
What? They don't have TV in the D-League? Don't watch me, watch TV.
by Mac G on Apr 30, 2008 6:45 PM EDT 0 recs
I dont think so
Someone needs to seriously coach that kid up.
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on
Apr 30, 2008 6:46 PM EDT
up
0 recs
can we get a McGuire sighting
just once? please? i promise he’ll perform
by KDP on Apr 30, 2008 6:46 PM EDT 0 recs
McGuire would rebound better
GO ROGER!
What? They don't have TV in the D-League? Don't watch me, watch TV.
by Mac G on Apr 30, 2008 6:47 PM EDT 0 recs
Reggie Miller is an assclown
He’s talking about how the game is up and down, which is the Wizards pace.
Except the Wizards played at the fifth-slowest pace in the league this year.
Nice job Reggie.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on Apr 30, 2008 6:48 PM EDT 0 recs
At least
the bogus calls didnt break the Wiz concentration. They are gonna fight to the end here methinks.
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Apr 30, 2008 6:48 PM EDT 0 recs
hope so...
they need to leave everything on the floor tonight.
by Pryme on
Apr 30, 2008 6:49 PM EDT
up
0 recs
yessir
no matter how the media tries to frame the personality of this team, we all know the swag they are composed of.
by KDP on
Apr 30, 2008 6:49 PM EDT
up
0 recs
I'm worried
That every shot is a contested mid-range jumper.
We can count the number of shots inside the paint on one finger. That has to change.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on Apr 30, 2008 6:50 PM EDT 0 recs
if nick young's shot attempt is any example
there’s a reason the Wiz are settling for outside shots
by Pryme on
Apr 30, 2008 6:51 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Potomac Rainmaker!
And nice penetration by Young. He may not have finished, but they need somebody to drive to the rim.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on Apr 30, 2008 6:52 PM EDT 1 recs
This was an interesting play
Nick Young attacks the rim with power, athleticsm, and control. I thought he drew a foul on Zydrunus but it turned out good for the Wiz anyway. What was interesting was Cleveland’s reaction (or lack there of) to NY’s drive. They couldn’t handle it. WE NEED MORE OF THIS!
by jvflail on
May 1, 2008 12:59 AM EDT
up
0 recs
Cleveland's adjusted
They’ve taken LeBron off the ball. That’s been big.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on Apr 30, 2008 6:53 PM EDT 0 recs
Mason missed a guy wide open underneath
Couldn’t tell who, but he was there.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on Apr 30, 2008 6:53 PM EDT 0 recs
good heavens
Gil’s jacket is hideous. Someone get him some warmups, please.
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Apr 30, 2008 6:54 PM EDT 0 recs
Eddie Jordan or Terrance Howard
I can’t tell which one it is in this car commercial. Great acting. I love it every time.
by the white prez on Apr 30, 2008 6:54 PM EDT 1 recs
BTW
To answer a question posted a couple weeks back – the Wiz/Cavs split screen face NBA commercial is Jamison/Big Ben
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Apr 30, 2008 6:55 PM EDT 0 recs
Damn
What a move by Caron.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on Apr 30, 2008 6:57 PM EDT 0 recs
Buck
Just called the boos for DS’s handwave “oohs and ahhs”
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on Apr 30, 2008 6:58 PM EDT 0 recs
GO Wiz
Can the Wiz get and over the back call?
What? They don't have TV in the D-League? Don't watch me, watch TV.
by Mac G on Apr 30, 2008 6:58 PM EDT 0 recs
Phil is right
They seem to be focusing their defense on stopping Caron. If Jamison can pick things up, the Wiz could cause some problems
by Pryme on Apr 30, 2008 6:58 PM EDT 0 recs
See, see
If you make Gibson put the ball on the floor, he becomes so much less effective.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on Apr 30, 2008 6:59 PM EDT 0 recs
The Rim Noise
Why when you swish a shot in cleveland the rim makes a loud noise…I can’t feel my face!
by the white prez on Apr 30, 2008 6:59 PM EDT 0 recs
Find Delonte
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on Apr 30, 2008 6:59 PM EDT 0 recs
Mason needs to get out of the game
He’s dribbling too much.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on Apr 30, 2008 7:00 PM EDT 0 recs
played well though
Getting buckets since 2003.
by Icantfeelmyface on
Apr 30, 2008 7:01 PM EDT
up
0 recs
He did for a bit
But if our biggest problem offensively is too much dribbling, then he needs to get out of there.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on
Apr 30, 2008 7:04 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Wiz get a call
Dont leave Delonte!
What? They don't have TV in the D-League? Don't watch me, watch TV.
by Mac G on Apr 30, 2008 7:01 PM EDT 0 recs
Ahole?
Buck just said the crowd was chanting something like airball
What? They don't have TV in the D-League? Don't watch me, watch TV.
by Mac G on Apr 30, 2008 7:02 PM EDT 0 recs
That's what crowds do
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on
Apr 30, 2008 7:03 PM EDT
up
0 recs
is it really that bad an idea
to play mostly man-to-man, let James get his points, but choke the rest of the Cavs and make them bystanders? Really, who else can create their own shot?
by Pryme on Apr 30, 2008 7:03 PM EDT 0 recs
The problem is twofold
1. Nobody can even limit LeBron on this team.
2. When that happens, LeBron penetrates and dishes, or he just scores. At least this way, we’re forcing the other guys to beat us.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on
Apr 30, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
up
0 recs
I agree
it’s just that I’ve seen enough Cavs games to know most of these guys can hit an open shot, so the “double LeBron” strategy won’t always work. On the flip side, I remember how they played without James, and the phrase “utterly pathetic” comes to mind.
I think too much of the Cleveland offense revolves around James, and that can be used against them.
by Pryme on
Apr 30, 2008 7:09 PM EDT
up
0 recs
I agree with the second part of your comment
I just don’t think we have the personnel to make them pay for it.
Our defense is pretty similar to what the Spurs did to him in the Finals last year. Problem is, we don’t have San Antonio’s personnel.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Pradamaster on
Apr 30, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Cleveland keeps jamming the passing lanes
Someone needs to go backdoor once in a while.
You know you'll