Bullets Forever: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:





Open Thread: Playoff Game 4

White-out_l_medium

The Essentials:
Eastern Conference Quarterfinals Game 4 (Cavs up 2-1)
1 p.m. (That's 8 p.m. if you're in Israel.)
ABC

Key Links (drop any others in the comments)
This rivalry just keeps getting weirder and weirder.
Akron is hatin' on DC now.
Arenas will try to make a go of it today.
A nice profile on Haywood.

Today's Lines
Cavaliers at Wizards:
Wizards by 4
Over/Under on Total Points: 187

After all of the hijinks and craziness of the first three games, this is where the series takes a turn for the serious.  With each team trading beatdowns on each other, everyone's gotten their laughs and whatnot out and it's time to focus on the games, and it's a good time to do it, because like every best of seven, Game 4 is key.  If Cleveland wins they're only a game away from clinching, and if Washington evens it up, we've got a whole new series on our hands.  The team that can settle down and play their brand of basketball today will get the W and set the tone for the rest of the series.

I'm predicting a fairly even, defensive battle like Game 1, just with the Wizards pulling it out at the end.  If the Wizards can keep the focus on doing what they do and not getting caught up in trying to be something they're not, they should win today.

This is an open thread, so debate how bourgeois or un-bourgeois the dunk contest is here.

GO WIZARDS!

0 recs | Comment 118 comments | Add your comment

Read Related

Story-email Email | Print |

Comments

Display:

Picks

Wizards
Over

I’ve got to work today, so I won’t be around for the comments. Keep the comments on the up and up y’all!

Bullets Forever: Your home for blogging on the dumbest team in the history of civilization.

by JakeTheSnake on Apr 27, 2008 12:01 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Mike Wise

also drops a column on the Jay-z /Club Love/Damon Jones smackdown on DeShawn. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/26/AR2008042602240.html

Seriously though, this game (and series) is basically the litmus test. If this version of the Wiz fails, injuries notwithstanding, then I don’t see how we stand pat this offseason.

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Apr 27, 2008 1:39 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Game 4

I’ll be there wearing white but I have no idea what will happen. I don’t think anything will surprise me. We gotta play D like Game 3 though.

by hotplate on Apr 27, 2008 8:47 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

boycott!

Just want to let everyone know that this 49 year old white guy is joining the boycott of Park and Love. They will never get my business again! I’ll find somewhere else to do my clubbing.

by hotplate on Apr 27, 2008 9:03 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

hilarious

i’m on board with the boycott too.

by DarrellWalkerFan on Apr 27, 2008 9:10 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Ha!

Not only will I join the boycott, I’ll one-up it and make it a lifetime ban. Not only won’t I go to Park or Love in the future, but I’ll use my nerd powers over the time-space continuum to boycott them in the past as well.

There. Done. How do you like that, Park and Love? I spent all my money in brew pubs and sports bars instead.

"Now, obviously individual production does not unilaterally equal better team production, but there's a high level of causation."

by Vanilla Gorilla on Apr 27, 2008 4:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

picks

Wizards
Over

by Aldo on Apr 27, 2008 11:45 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

GOOO WIZAAARDS!
Jamison today = 32 points, 15 rebounds.

by Dericaz on Apr 27, 2008 12:10 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

DC - Over

Good lord…...I’ll save my comments on the goings ons in the Wizards community for the game blog.

by Truth About It on Apr 27, 2008 12:25 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Damn

Just got back from Israel, and I can’t believe the all-white I’m seeing. Is this really the same DC atmosphere that has been criticized all season.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 1:09 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Who knows....

Welcome back…...I guess DC only comes out in the second season when it’s fashionable to do so.

by Truth About It on Apr 27, 2008 1:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Boo

I don’t like that they’re calling that foul on DeShawn. That means they’re calling this one tight.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 1:12 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Anyone here?

Or everyone at the game right now?

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

On the left coast

but wearing white, just for safety’s sake.

by WRG on Apr 27, 2008 1:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Present....

Then they started letting them play a little; the tears are flowing for Cleveland.

by Truth About It on Apr 27, 2008 1:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Hah

Varejao sucks. Jamison rocks.

Butler needs to post up more, methinks.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Boo

Bad call. Brown wasn’t even controlling the ball.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 1:37 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Have we ever seen this lineup before

Gilbert, AD, and Mason in at the same time. I imagine that will stop as soon as LeBron comes back into the game.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Achilles heels

Rebounding: To be expected.
Turnovers: Not to be expected.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 1:45 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Huh

I mean, Ben fouled him, but LeBron fouled him first.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 1:49 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

i can’t believe that lebron cried about that and convinced the refs to call that foul on wallace. BS

by Aldo on Apr 27, 2008 1:50 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Really?

Because I can totally believe it.

by Truth About It on Apr 27, 2008 1:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I mean, that I can’t believe the refs bought LeBron’s pouting.

by Aldo on Apr 27, 2008 1:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Two straight LeBron forays into the paint

Gotta keep plugging the lane.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Transition D needs to improve

And Caron has to stop shooting 20-footers.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Awful rebounding

This was the major concern coming into the series. It’s finally showing.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

WTF

Mike Brown cannot do that. He can’t just run all the way out of the coaching box.

Brendan’s right. Calm down, please.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

What the hell is LeBron doing?

And please, Caron barely touched him.

It’s a good thing the TV timeout is happening now. We’re losing our composure.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

this is pathetic.

prada’s right. no composure; our heads aren’t in the game. we just need to settle down and play the damn game.

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Apr 27, 2008 2:01 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

GET ARENAS OUT

4 turnovers (five really, if you include the pass to Daniels) and no points, Arenas is -11 and Mason +10.

by billyjoe on Apr 27, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Nice possession out of the TO

Except the passing really isn’t crisp at all.

It’s almost getting to the point where Arenas shouldn’t play as much. He’s clearly out of rhythm.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Unbelievable

The offense just doesn’t exist right now.

Get Haywood and Mason back in the game.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 2:07 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

that was fun.

this half is the season right here. We arent winning 2 in cleveland. Put up or shut up time. Thing is, we can totally take this team but unless we want it more than them it’s just not happening. I’d like to see Butler put the team on his back. (I’d even say Arenas but he is godawful today). We need our own hombre to match Lebron – and let’s face it: he may be a whiner but right now he wants this game more than anybody else out there, and that’s the difference.

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Apr 27, 2008 2:14 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Grunfeld must be going bonkers

Jordan insists on going small and slow (Arenas). Seven minutes for Blatche. If Wiz don’t win, this is the end for EJ.

by billyjoe on Apr 27, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Im inclined to believe you.

Not that I care all that much. It may be time for new leadership. Jordan did a great job but I’m not sure he’s the man to get them over the hump. We’ll see though – one more half to play.

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Apr 27, 2008 2:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Meh

I don’t think Eddie’s coaching is the reason we’re down 10. It comes down to rebounding and turnovers, neither of which have changed with different guys on the floor.

His only mistake is playing Arenas too much.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 2:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Those two layups

The ABC crew (mostly Tirico and Salters) are pointing to Stevenson’s flagrant as the turning point, but really, it was those two breakdowns in the transition defense.

I’d like to see Eddie ditch Gilbert and go mostly with an AD-Mason backcourt. We should also get Haywood involved more.

In the end, though, I think this half will tell it all about Caron Butler’s career. Is he simply a good second banana, or is he really a borderline franchise guy? He needs to be spectacular for us to win.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 2:26 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Bad start

Forced shot by Caron, open shot for Z

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 2:28 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Gilbert has to sit

Ironic that he just hit a three, but he’s killing us on offense and on defense. I blame Eddie Jordan here. If he can’t stand up to his star and do what’s best for the team, he needs to go.

by mdd1970 on Apr 27, 2008 2:34 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Is it really Gilbert's fault though

That nobody can grab a rebound?

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 2:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Gilbert's poor defense...

is pulling everyone out of position. I think he has a lot to do with the rebounding problem. That being said, my problem is not with Gilbert. He’s a gamer. It’s with Eddie for not putting our best team on the floor.

by mdd1970 on Apr 27, 2008 2:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Not sure I totally agree

When LeBron hit that open three, there were three Wizards in the paint, yet Ben Wallace tapped the rebound out for another shot.

It’s also not like LeBron is penetrating. He’s mostly shot jumpers today.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 2:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I actually like how Gilbert's playing

He hasn’t forced anything this half. Two nice passes, one to Jamison, one to Haywood.

It’s the other guys who aren’t doing much right now. Again, where is Butler?

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 2:37 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Decent start to the quarter

The fourth on Z is big, because it brings Joe Smith in, and he’s not as good a rebounder.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 2:41 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Here it is!

Five straight great possessions.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 2:45 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Bad time for tv timeout, we finally have some momentum.

by Aldo on Apr 27, 2008 2:51 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Four straight rebounds for Cleveland

That’s ridiculous.

15 offensive boards for Cleveland. Can we keep Haywood in the game?

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 2:56 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

This is absolutely awful

The only way Cleveland can score is through an offensive rebound. We can’t let them do that.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 2:58 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

omg….eddie jordan…please wake up and put someone willing to rebound in the game, songalia doesnt want to

by bcrawfo225 on Apr 27, 2008 2:58 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Oh Darius...

Why is he so slow and trying to block a much bigger man than him? Ugh.

"My only regret is that I have boneitis." - That Guy on Futurama

by Wizards on Apr 27, 2008 2:59 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Fourth quarter

We will not win this game if they keep getting this many offensive rebounds. If I see a small lineup ONCE in the fourth quarter I might break my TV.

Washington Wizards Playoffs 2008: "We're Bushing it."

by Gilbert4SpaceJam2 on Apr 27, 2008 3:00 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

u know what this is all coaching….you get totally outrebounded and have all of these turnovers and yet are still in the game….ive been saying jordan needs to go since early last yr

by bcrawfo225 on Apr 27, 2008 3:00 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

That was a tough 5-0 run

Especially given how close Antoine’s baby hook was to going in. Question for all of us would-be coaches: What lineup should EJ start the 4th with?

by mdd1970 on Apr 27, 2008 3:02 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Now THIS

is the most important 4th quarter of the year.

Adjustments can be made…..let’s have faith.

by Truth About It on Apr 27, 2008 3:02 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

My line-up:

DS, AD, AJ, CB, BTH

by mdd1970 on Apr 27, 2008 3:02 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

I'd go tall and athletic

This isn’t going to happen, but a lineup of BTH, AB, AJ, CB and AD would be interesting.

"My only regret is that I have boneitis." - That Guy on Futurama

by Wizards on Apr 27, 2008 3:03 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

I like.

Do they play zone or m2m?

by mdd1970 on Apr 27, 2008 3:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I would switch depending on the personnel the Cavs showed.

"My only regret is that I have boneitis." - That Guy on Futurama

by Wizards on Apr 27, 2008 3:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Sit Jamison to start

Go with Brendan and Andray, then bring Jamison in for Andray.

Otherwise, go with the starters.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 3:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Why can't we rebound?

"My only regret is that I have boneitis." - That Guy on Futurama

by Wizards on Apr 27, 2008 3:06 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

ok nvm nobody wants to rebound….you cant win that way on any level

by bcrawfo225 on Apr 27, 2008 3:07 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

How can you not get that rebounding

And how can that not be a travel on LeBron.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 3:07 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Well sure

But Blatche hasn’t exactly been a consistent member of the rotation this year anyway.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 3:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Good take by Caron

Need more of that.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 3:08 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Come on now

Defense!

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 3:11 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Big shots by Delonte

Not sure what more you can do there. That was a pretty good close-out by Antawn.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Pradamaster on Apr 27, 2008 3:11 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Agreed.

It will hurt if Delonte makes the difference… but I’m pretty happy with the Cavs shooting contested threes.

by mdd1970 on Apr 27, 2008 3:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

daniels has played great all yr…but we need someone to stretch the D out right now and get some easier shots….hes not a threat beyond the ft line

by bcrawfo225 on Apr 27, 2008 3:13 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs