Bill Simmons' Wizards Trade Idea/TRADE DEADLINE THREAD
[editor's note, by Pradamaster]Since Wooz got the ball rolling, consider this your official trade deadline thread.
I'm about 99.9 percent sure the Wizards aren't doing anything today, seeing as how they have no assets to trade and their own GM says nothing is happening, so it's probably going to be a quiet day on the homefront. So consider this a thread for other team's moves, as well as a space for you to comment on the Shaq, Gasol, and Kidd trades that have already occurred.
San Antonio's already acquired Kurt Thomas, and it appears the Hornets are about to acquire Bonzi Wells and Mike James from the Rockets.
This page will keep updating as the action continues. -PM
UPDATE 1: The big one so far is Ben Wallace, Wally Sczerbiak, Joe Smith, and Delonte West headed to Cleveland in a three way deal. I mention the Cleveland's side since their side has the most relevance to us since we play them tomorrow. In other news Gerald Green is headed to Houston and Juan Dixon is off to Detroit.
TRADE 6B: The Clippers trade Sam Cassell, Corey Maggette, Aaron Williams, their 2008 No. 1 (unprotected) and the rights to Minnesota's No. 1 in 2008 or 2009 to Washington for Gilbert Arenas, Etan Thomas and Washington's 2008 No. 1 (lottery-protected).
Why Washington does it: For four completely logical reasons. First, the Wizards don't have to spend max money on Gilbert when it's unclear if he's a franchise guy for anything other than a fantasy team. Second, when you factor in Gilbert's new contract with the $13 million they'd save by dumping Etan Thomas, they'd save something like $44 million in 2009 and 2010 combined because Cassell, Williams and Maggette are all expiring deals. (Heading into this summer after this deal, when you include Antwan Jamison's impending free agency, the Wizards would have a paltry $38 million committed to their 2008-09 payroll. ... That's right, more than enough money to sign a name free agent to replace Gilbert.) Third, those are two fantastic No. 1s they're getting back -- a lottery pick in 2008 and a probable high lottery pick from Minnesota -- and they have an All-Star to replace Arenas on and off the court (Caron Butler). And fourth, as crazy as this sounds, they'd actually improve their playoff chances this season by getting Cassell and Maggette since it's doubtful that Arenas comes back, anyway.
I guess it all depends on what you think of Gilbert. My buddy House (a Wiz fan) argues that Gilbert is far too popular in D.C. to ever get traded, but he uttered a terse "no comment" for my question, "Yeah, that's fine and all, but would you have fun playing with him?"
Why the Clips do it: Because of the improbable resurgence of Kobe and the Lakers, the poor Clips have been blown off the map locally. They're an afterthought. They don't matter. In other words, it's just like every other season. If they don't swing for the fences with the Cassell/Maggette contracts and their picks and try to acquire a star player, they will continue not to matter. (Put it this way: As a season-ticket holder, I'm not coming back next year unless they make a big move. I can't stomach another lousy season. And I'm not alone.) This trade gives them a foundation of Arenas, Elton Brand, Chris Kaman, Al Thornton and Shaun Livingston that's legitimately exciting on paper (at least until you remember that three of those guys suffered season-ending injuries), as well as an exciting franchise guy (and a local product) who would generate a ton of interest in Los Angeles on and off the court. Let's face it -- Gilbert was born to play in Hollywood. Literally. It's the perfect place for him.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/blog/index?name=simmons&entryDate=20080220
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I don't know about you guys
by JakeTheSnake on Feb 21, 2008 2:52 PM EST 0 recs
You Forgot Someone
by cuppettcj on
Feb 21, 2008 3:38 PM EST
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Psssshhhhttt
by JakeTheSnake on
Feb 21, 2008 3:43 PM EST
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Nice rebuttal of the Simmons idea
http://thesportsnote.com/2008/02/21/simmons-and-his-awful-wizards-trade-idea/
by Pradamaster on Feb 21, 2008 2:55 PM EST 0 recs
Boom Goes the Dynamite
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/51023/20080221/cavs_get_wallace_smith_west_and_wally/
by cuppettcj on Feb 21, 2008 4:03 PM EST 0 recs
I think my brain just exploded
by JakeTheSnake on
Feb 21, 2008 4:19 PM EST
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What the hell?
Chicago makes out okay...Gooden's better than Smith, and it helps to do anything to get rid of Wallace. But Larry Hughes? What are they going to do with him?
Two desperate GMs making a desperation trade that won't make much of a difference. The NBA...it's Faaaan-tastic.
by Pradamaster on
Feb 21, 2008 4:24 PM EST
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Yeah
Really, really weird trade.
by JakeTheSnake on
Feb 21, 2008 4:32 PM EST
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Wally Kills Us
by cuppettcj on
Feb 21, 2008 4:35 PM EST
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That's very true
by JakeTheSnake on
Feb 21, 2008 4:40 PM EST
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Pick Your Poison
by cuppettcj on
Feb 21, 2008 4:42 PM EST
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i think booby is hurt
by facekdr on
Feb 22, 2008 8:40 AM EST
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Even So, ...
by cuppettcj on
Feb 22, 2008 8:51 AM EST
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It will be interesting
by hotplate on Feb 22, 2008 12:22 PM EST 0 recs
Oops, forgot
by hotplate on Feb 22, 2008 12:29 PM EST 0 recs
They just mentioned on ESPN -
by ooba on Feb 22, 2008 1:13 PM EST 0 recs
One's a familiar face
by Pradamaster on
Feb 22, 2008 1:28 PM EST
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Can't even wait for the game thread
I'm certain I'm reading too much into this, but I think Danny Ferry slapped us in the face. We're only 4.5 games down from the Cavs. This should be a big game. But here's my version of Ferry's thought process: "I can trade away half my team now because our next 3 games are against the Wiz, Grizz, and Bucks. I'm fairly certain Lebron could beat them if I gave him a bunch of 6th graders to play with."
Sad thing is he may be right. Brace yourselves boys: Bron-Bron's going for 80 tonight.
by jvflail on
Feb 22, 2008 1:55 PM EST
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I think the trade deadline was the catalyst
by Aldo on
Feb 22, 2008 3:14 PM EST
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Hmmm
I'd love to see the Wiz come out with that kind of intensity. Unfortunately, the only games I can think of like this were the loss in Denver last season, right after Melo and several other Nuggets got suspended for fighting, and a game in which Toronto started two D-Leaguers two seasons ago. We lost both those games.
by Vanilla Gorilla on
Feb 22, 2008 4:00 PM EST
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yeah
with caron out, who guards lebron? antawn? blatche? could get ugly.
funny thing is, i don't necessarily think that translates into a cavs win. wouldn't be shocked if lebron goes huge and wiz stay in the game.
by DarrellWalkerFan on
Feb 22, 2008 4:24 PM EST
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