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I have been racking my brain all year to try and figure out why the Wiz are such an abomination as compared to last year where they were a scrappy competive team every night. Now, I leave the number crunching to Prada and Rook and others who know better than I, but the reason I propose is that while we had defined roles last year (even considering EJ's crazy rotations), this year we have a nice collection of "stuff."

I'll call it my "Roger Mason" Theory

For example 2007-08 Wiz

PG - Antonio Daniels (True PG - low TO, high assist), Roger Mason (3PT specialist)

SG - Stevenson (Supposedly lockdown D, open 3PT) Young (instant offense, developing)

SF - Butler (Scorer, Leader) Songalia (Hustle, Open 10 footers)

PF - Jamison (Scorer, REB) Blatche (high energy, developing)

C - Haywood (Defensive anchor, High PCT FG)

This leaves out McGuire who is/was an energy guy and Pech who is comedy relief.

This year there don't seem to be any set roles

PG - James (Hybrid Guard, shoots too much)

SG - Stevenson (defense down, shoots too much)

SF - Butler (disappears too much)

PF - Jamison (trying to do to much)

C - JaVale McGee (too too raw), Blatche (doesn't play typical center)

Last year, everyone had a role. I don't think Gil's absence was felt as much because everyone knew what they were supposed to do. Young was a  rookie, and they played to his strengths and let him just shoot when him came in. Blatche (thought yanked around too often) was asked to board and draw other C's and PF's away from the rim. Stevenson I guess did what Stevenson did....

To illustrate further, the Wiz made the playoffs the year before with Jarvis and Ruffin. As much as these players are maligned on this board, could the success of that team be due in large part to defined roles assigned by the coach?

Or is Roger Mason just that good?

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Your analysis boils down to

07-08 Everyone playing well

08-09 Everyone playing badly, no center

by MR on Dec 22, 2008 9:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah not a brilliant analysis

I’ll try an anecdote instead…..

I lived in Boston from 2001-06 after college. I saw the last decent Walker/Piece team, and then a whole bunch of crap until “The Trade.”

My concern is that on this board we tend to speak of Young, Blatche, and McGuire the same way that Boston fans played up..

Gerald Greene
Orien Green
Sebastian Telfair
Delonte West
Marcus Banks
Ryan Gomes
and (perhaps) Ricky Davis

at the same time we also spend an inordinate amount of time deriding Songalia and Stevenson the same way that Boston fans ripped the reprehensible Marc Blount, Raef LaFrentz, and (perhaps) Ricky Davis.

What is most interesting in this equation is that the player that most Boston fans fawned over and considered untouchable, Al Jefferson, reminds me quite a bit of our JaVale McGee.

My point with the collection of stuff, Pierce went into sulk mode for five years, being forced to play with a bunch of youngsters and veterans with undefined roles, and Gary Payton’s corpse. No one had a role, and there were calls to give Gerald Greene his minutes, on the basis of nothing more than “potential.” Which was unfair to ask of Greene, and thus perhaps unfair to ask of NY and Blatche.

Our bench, arguably was weaker two years ago with Ruffin, Booth and the rest, and yet the team made the playoffs. And I think a lot of this has to do with roles being assigned properly. Or maybe this team is just terribly constructed. All I know is that Butler and Jamison are making the Paul Pierce face, and that worries me to no end.

But hey, maybe we can package Etan, McGee, Young, and Blatche for a perennial all star.

Maybe someone like Vince Carter?

Its always Roger Mason (Jr.) time!

by ledellforlife on Dec 22, 2008 10:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great Points

But no thanks to Vince Carter. I do think that we sometimes get carried away with our young “potential” to the point that it distorts our reality. Every time that NY or Andray have a really good game, I keep thinking that it is the start of them finally grasping what they have to do to be successful and that from here on out they will consistently do exactly what they did in that game. And then the next game comes and they play terrible and I wonder if they’ll ever get it, but I always have this undying hope that they will.

But after seeing how Boston was able to dump all of that unpredictable “potential” for players who consistently play well, my new hope is that some other GM becomes as enamored with our “potential” as we are, and gives us a solid player in return. I’m not naive enough to think that it will be a Garnett-like player, because our franchise is just not that lucky. I just want someone that I don’t have to worry about whether they will bring their A game to the game or not.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Dec 22, 2008 11:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Vince was the first

all star I could find to easily make the trade machine work. But would trade all the potential in the world for 4 all stars and the hope of signing a Jamario Moon or Leon Powe on the cheap…

Its always Roger Mason (Jr.) time!

by ledellforlife on Dec 22, 2008 11:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I get what you're saying, but...

I think you have to keep in mind that the injuries to Gilbert and Brendan (and maybe DeShawn) have stretched almost everyone on the team out of their natural role. If Brendan was still healthy, Blatche would go back to being a backup where his minutes could be better monitored and JaVale would go to being an energy guy that could come in for 5-10 minutes a game and provide an alley-oop threat and shotblocking. And if Gilbert was healthy, Caron and Antawn could go back to being the 2nd and 3rd options and Mike, Juan, and Nick wouldn’t have to force as much and DeShawn could go back to being a guy that just lingers around the perimeter who can take open shots when they’re available.

I’ll agree that the lack of a defined role for most of the players on the team has hurt their overall performance but I think that’s a byproduct of not having enough players to fill all the roles. Last year, everyone just had to pitch in a little extra to cover Gil’s role as the top offensive option. Caron took on the role of initiator, Antawn upped his rebounding, Brendan improved his FT shooting, Roger steadied his 3 point shot and Antonio ran the show effectively. That covered all of Gilbert’s roles.

Now with Gilbert and Brendan out, they have to fill Gilbert’s roles on offense and they have to take on Brendan’s defensive roles. You’ve got to have a communicator to get people in the right spots defensively, a widebody that can clog the lane and help people get rebounds, a solid shotblocker, and someone that can body up the other team’s best big man. That’s a lot of roles to cover for a team that’s missing 2/5ths of its starting calibur talent because of injuries and another spot is in flux because the starter is battling through hamstring issues and a shooting slump. It’s hard to get a team to fill all the roles that an NBA team needs to be successful when you’re trotting out 2 starters and a bunch of bench players and I think the record shows that. Once we get one or both of those guys back, a lot of the role issues on this squad will work themselves out.

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by JakeTheSnake on Dec 23, 2008 12:14 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

And as always

Any post written by me after 11PM comes with the disclaimer that it might not make any sense. Keep that in mind.

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by JakeTheSnake on Dec 23, 2008 12:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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