The Wizards, Grizzlies & Hornets weren't the only teams wheeling and dealing today

by Jake Whitacre on Dec 10, 2008 6:56 PM EST

The Suns and the Bobcats made a little swapperoo today as well.

Phoenix gets:

Jason Richardson & Jared Dudley [EDIT - And they get a 2nd round pick in 2010.]

Charlotte gets:

Boris Diaw, Raja Bell, and Sean Singletary

This deal, together with Charlotte's potential addition of Juwan Howard should make the Bobcats a contender for years to come, proving that Michael Jordan truly is clearly the greatest GM of our time.

Also, I'm pretty sure that this is the fourth team that Sean Singletary has been a member of since he was drafted back in June. At this rate, he'll be a Wizard twice before the end of the season.

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I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

"My swag was phenomenal!"

by Wizards on Dec 10, 2008 7:07 PM EST reply actions

Bandits

Dear Diary, JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!

by Evander holyfield on Dec 10, 2008 7:12 PM EST reply actions

Wow

That’s a ridiculously dumb trade for Charlotte. Yay, let’s trade a still-productive shooting guard and a diamond-in-the-rough prospect for a big softee that’s on the hook for four more years (!) and a washed-up shooting guard on the hook for two more.

Charlotte now is committed to Emeka Okafor, Gerald Wallace, Boris Diaw and Matt Carroll for the next four years. Hooray mediocrity!

How could Phoenix not do this deal?

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 10, 2008 7:36 PM EST reply actions

True dat

And I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that Gerald Wallace is still on the block and he’ll probably end moved in another awful deal.

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by Jake Whitacre on Dec 10, 2008 7:46 PM EST up reply actions

What do you think about Wallace on the Wiz?

I’ve been thinking about how to swipe him for awhile, but I’m not sure if he would fit in here.

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Dec 11, 2008 6:48 PM EST up reply actions

I think he'd fit great

Perfect dude to move Caron to the 2. Not in love with his shot, but Caron’s improved range makes it worth doing.

Not enthused about Gerald’s contract though.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 11, 2008 7:00 PM EST up reply actions

I'd love to see him here

But I don’t think we have the pieces to make a deal, unless we just traded Jamison straight up for him.

Would I do that trade? Maybe. Wallace is younger and better defensively (thought he’s better at guarding small forwards than power forwards) but he does have a history of injuries, which would fit in well here, but not in the way that any of us would like. My gut tells me that it’s probably a good deal (and Charlotte would probably do it, because they can never have too many Tar Heels) but it would be a very tough call.

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by Jake Whitacre on Dec 11, 2008 7:03 PM EST up reply actions

Not sure I agree

But I don’t think we have the pieces to make a deal, unless we just traded Jamison straight up for him.

Once Charlotte starts to suck and decides to look towards 2010, I’d bet we could nab Wallace for something like Etan’s expiring deal, Songaila and Critt/Pech/D-Mac. We might need to take someone back to match salaries, but that strikes me as pretty reasonable.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 11, 2008 7:14 PM EST up reply actions

Exactly... but

I would try to snag him in a salary dump. He’s talented, but he’s not a great player, and Charlotte might want to play the 2010 sweepstakes.

However, I’m not convinced he would fit on the team. He’s too small to start at the 4, and I have doubts about his ability to play the 2 guard. He’s not a shooter, and I’m not sure how comfortable he is guarding SGs on other teams. I’m sure he can gamble for steals with the best of them, but if he’s always on the perimeter we lose some of his blocking/rebounding down low. Yeah, of course he’s an upgrade over D-Steve, but at 9 mil a year to play out of position? In the end I do the trade because of his talent – I just don’t like him playing any position other than the 3 with regularity, which means he has to come off the bench. Meh.

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Dec 11, 2008 8:14 PM EST up reply actions

Oops.

I just realized that you suggested moving Caron to the 2, not Wallace. However, I don’t like Caron at the 2 much more than Wallace. Caron’s not a good defender against guards at all – and while he is a very well-rounded scorer, he doesn’t drive enough. Also, he seems a little bothered by quick pesky defenders, which he would face at SG.

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Dec 11, 2008 8:18 PM EST up reply actions

They'd be interchangable

Wallace could guard the 2s you speak of, leaving Caron to guard 3s.

Offensively, Caron would be the 2.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 11, 2008 11:11 PM EST up reply actions

Guess that could work

But I’d rather have Wallace closer to the basket where he can protect the rim and grab boards. I wouldn’t give up anything other than expiring contracts to get him – if Charlotte wants any of the Blatche/McGee/NY group then I say no.

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Dec 12, 2008 2:26 PM EST up reply actions

Oh for sure

I’m not trading one of those three for Gerald. Three years ago, maybe, but not now.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 12, 2008 2:33 PM EST up reply actions

I too have had my eye on him for a long time. The concussion scared me though.

by MR on Dec 12, 2008 11:58 AM EST up reply actions

ummm

what?

by joshp on Dec 10, 2008 7:45 PM EST reply actions

Awful, just awful.

Wow. What were the Bobcats thinking?

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by mamemimo on Dec 10, 2008 7:48 PM EST reply actions

jordan

does anyone else get the feeling that jordan just has a giant bet with some friends of his to see how many awful moves he can make while relying on his reputation as a player before he gets run out of town?

by joshp on Dec 10, 2008 7:54 PM EST reply actions

It's such a shame

because J-Rich would have dominated under a Mike D’antoni- Steve Nash reign. I miss the old Suns.

by Fundefined on Dec 10, 2008 8:08 PM EST reply actions

Of course Avery Johnson like this trade

for Charlotte?

The more and more I listen to him, the more I understand why he was chased out of Dallas.

Dear Diary, JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!

by Evander holyfield on Dec 10, 2008 9:34 PM EST reply actions

He likes it because he has nightmares of Game 1 of the 06 WCF

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 10, 2008 9:55 PM EST up reply actions

My only problem with this deal for Phoenix

Is who is the backup for Steve Nash now?

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Dec 11, 2008 7:49 PM EST reply actions

Who was the backup for Nash before the trade?

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 11, 2008 8:00 PM EST up reply actions

Dragic.

"My swag was phenomenal!"

by Wizards on Dec 12, 2008 12:39 AM EST up reply actions

He's still there

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Dec 12, 2008 12:57 AM EST up reply actions

Anyone see TNT Break Down This Trade Last Night?

Barkley and Smith took the exact opposite view of this thread. They both said that this deal was way better for Charlotte than it was for the Suns. Barkley praised Bell and Diaw while questioning J-Rich’s potential role on the Suns, saying “there’s only one ball”. Any thoughts on this?

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Dec 12, 2008 2:57 PM EST reply actions

I kinda get what they're saying

I’m not sure that Richardson will fit in with the Suns, partly because I’m not sure the Suns know where they’re going in terms of identity. But this trade sure doesn’t work for the Bobcats. Bell isn’t getting younger and Diaw is still getting paid $9 million for the next three years and he’s currently averaging 8 points and 4 boards per game and I can’t see how he’ll mesh with Larry Brown at all.

Where the Washington-Memphis-New Orleans trade might end up being the right deal for all three sides, the Phoenix-Charlotte deal might end up leaving both teams worse than they were before.

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by Jake Whitacre on Dec 12, 2008 3:37 PM EST up reply actions

yea

all the so called ‘experts’ are rambling about how this trade highlights the suns’ lack of identity, but the fact of the matter is they committed highway robbery from a personnel standpoint.

by joshp on Dec 12, 2008 3:44 PM EST up reply actions