Bye Bye Eddie
Editor's Note: Well, that happened quicker than I expected, but then again, Ernie Grunfeld's a man who isn't afraid to make bold moves. Ed Tapscott is set to take over, which is really interesting. Ed and Ernie have a history dating back to New York, but it's odd to see every single assistant passed over for the job. Including Randy Ayers.
I wouldn't be surprised to see stories about EJ and EG fighting come out in the coming months. The big elephant in the room seemed to be that they didn't like each other. -PM
UPDATE: According to ESPN, Mike O' Koren was also released today and Randy Ayers is now head assistant. (HT: Stet Sports Blog)
Looks like Les Boulez are getting ready to can Eddie Jordan. I would say I can't believe it, but this franchise is looking more and more like its old self every day.
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yep..confirmed
Jordan Fired, Tapscott to Take Over
According to sources familiar with the situation, the Wizards have relieved Coach Eddie Jordan of his duties. Jordan was informed of the decision this morning.
Ed Tapscott, who had carried the title of Director of Player Development but traveled with the team and essentially served as an extra assistant coach, will take over coaching duties, starting with a practice that will begin today at 11 a.m.
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by jackpitt on Nov 24, 2008 10:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
And there was much rejoicing...
but mixed feelings as well…
by five by five on Nov 24, 2008 10:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Same here -
I like Eddie a lot but I think his time was done here.
by ooba on Nov 24, 2008 10:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
He and Ernie have turned our club into a playoff team, but without being able to preach defense he wasn’t going to be able to take us much further. Injuries hurt him, but it was clearly beyond that.
by five by five on Nov 24, 2008 10:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
kind of feel bad for the guy
he never has his full arsenal to work with so he never realize his potential but yeah, its time to move on
ps: feel bad for his son too whos a waterboy
by ak47 on Nov 24, 2008 10:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Never expected this
to happen this soon. Not too surprised by the decision, just kind of stunned by the timing.
by KShark28 on Nov 24, 2008 10:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The return of Avery Johnson?
Or maybe we’ll steal away Phil Jackson!! NOT. Larry Brown? Um, no. I KNOW: GARY WILLIAMS! Kill me now. Abe will probably pick Wes Unseld or Michael Adams.
by Unselds on Nov 24, 2008 10:26 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Abe is sooo old
and aint have a clue now that he is going to say “yes” to everybody lol
by ak47 on Nov 24, 2008 10:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mixed feelings here too
Ultimately, I think it was time. I don’t think the players quit on Eddie by any means, but it just wasn’t working out.
But we shouldn’t forget that as badly as this era ended, Eddie Jordan still took this team to the playoffs 4 times. Especially in D.C., that says a lot. I wish him the best in his future endeavors.
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by JakeTheSnake on Nov 24, 2008 10:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm surprised by timing too
Ed Tapscott doesn’t have any coaching experience (I think), so I guess he is temporary
by Aldo on Nov 24, 2008 10:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well Ed Tapscott might be the next.....
Bruce Boudreau!!
by ak47 on Nov 24, 2008 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tapscott
Well, this pretty much means that Grunfeld does not have any respect for the assistants…..well, none of them were his, except for perhaps Randy Ayers…..and you can’t exactly make the guy who was supposed to help the defense the head coach.
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by Truth About It on Nov 24, 2008 10:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Methinks Ernie has already has somebody in mind to take over permanently if he’s bringing in someone who’s not even officially a part of the coaching staff to take over in the interim.
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by JakeTheSnake on Nov 24, 2008 10:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Has to be the case -
I was suprised to hear Tapscott would be taking over. It’s very odd.
by ooba on Nov 24, 2008 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Newest Absolute Low Point
I’m really surprised and disappointed. What will this really accomplish? Unless this is connected to a larger change of direction, I just don’t see the point. What EJ has said the last week or so—that they team still has winning habits—looked true enough, and you can’t ask for more than that from a bad team. The worst that could happen would be for losing habits to set in, and I’m afraid that will now happen.
by BWoods on Nov 24, 2008 10:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The plot thickens...
That part of the story won’t get played up a lot, but I find it very interesting.
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by JakeTheSnake on Nov 24, 2008 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I took it to mean
“all things EJ are being flushed.”
by Pryme on Nov 24, 2008 11:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wont know how to feel about eddie getting fired...
until I see who is hired.
by Lukbuster on Nov 24, 2008 11:01 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Over at WashPost
They are still begging for Avery Johnson.
by Pryme on Nov 24, 2008 11:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This Firing...
…is on the shoulders of the players. They are the ones who refuse to play defense.
Eddie did a lot for the Wizards, and its unfortunate their immaturity cost him a dream job.
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by Stet Sports Blog on Nov 24, 2008 11:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree to a certain extent
But if you don’t put your players in the best position to succeed then you can’t expect the team to get wins. Our biggest problem was closing out games down the stretch first and foremost, and also starting out games.
When we were trying to close out games, EJ consistently played rotations that made no sense, andeither refused to play his hot players or failed to realize who was getting the job done at the time.
Starting out games, it is the player’s job to get in a game rhythm/mindset in pregame workouts. We rarely got a sufficient game tempo from our starters, but part of the problem was we were starting the wrong players for most of the season, and for way too long.
Dear Diary, JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!
by Evander holyfield on Nov 24, 2008 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Then again
It did often seem like our players just refused to play defense. That is just a disgrace for our players, but I would also expect EJ to get creative under these circumstances and shake things up a bit more than he did.
Dear Diary, JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!
by Evander holyfield on Nov 24, 2008 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The question remains: Whither Arenas and Jamison?
Those two were an essential part of EJ’s offense.
by Pryme on Nov 24, 2008 11:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I kept checking Ivan's blog yesterday...
Because I thought this was going to happen yesterday. I like Eddie, and think he was a huge part of this team’s success the last several years.
But watching Darius Songaila play the five while Blatche and McGee watched in the fourth quarter Saturday day night was the last thing I need to see to prove it was time. When the team is 1-9, playing a team with seven players dressed, it’s time to get your young guys on the floor. If you don’t trust them, and you can’t reach them (Blatche more than McGee here) it’s time to let someone else try it. Songaila is who you thought he was; a nice role player (at the four) inexplicably playing the five over two guys far more talented.
by bronco6778 on Nov 24, 2008 11:15 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
So what if EJ beat the knicks?
Did this one game decide his future? I know you can’t put it all on one game, but I assume he wouldn’t have been fired if they beat the Knicks, then a few more here and there…
by se7en on Nov 24, 2008 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't just one game, though
If you look back through all of the game flows, this season, it becomes clear that EJ’s substitutions and rotations were a mess. The Knicks game was just emblematic of what EJ’s done this year.
I’ve said the before here, but EJ’s reliance on the wrong veterans hurt the team, in some ways as much as the disappointing play of those veterans. Liking Songaila’s hustle and passing is fine, but playing him the last 5 minutes of the 3rd and the entire 4th (like against Detroit) is not. Benching Blatche or McGee because they’re not producing, then turning around and giving Stevenson 37 and a half minutes despite his 4-14 shooting (including 2-10 from three) and nonexistent defense will create questions in the young players’ minds of just what they have to do to see the floor.
The Wizards’ record is not all on EJ, but he’s not blameless, either.
by Jon L on Nov 24, 2008 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
I didn’t explain it so clearly, but I intended what I saw that night as a microcosm of what was wrong. How about the defense collapsing over and over while they were being killed by the three? If I was seeing it Ernie was definitely seeing it.
I hate it for Eddie, but for all his positives he probably wasn’t a good makeup to get a team deep in the playoffs. Same’s true for Norv Turner. Great assistant coaches don’t always make good coaches.
by bronco6778 on Nov 24, 2008 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I hate to see this for Eddie
He was a good man, who had a passion for this city and this job (something very few people who’ve worked here ever had). Even though I a native of suburban D.C., I love this town and it meant a lot to me that he went to high school here and cared for this city and its basketball fans.
And as a big fan of the Princeton offense I was overjoyed he came here (I just wish we had run it more often).
Now I won’t cast Eddie Jordan as a plaster saint. I shared many of the same frustrations with his coaching style as all of you (his feud with Brendan, playing certain favorites, defensive philosophy, substitution patterns, not going offense/defense at the end of games). There were many times where his tactical moves made my head want to explode.
But I am sorry to see Eddie go. During that wonder Spring of 2005 the Wizards success was enhanced by Eddie being here and being part of it. Inspite of a lot of things, I will miss him quite a bit (especially when he nearly attacked that Cleveland fan during the playoffs and said “A little Southeast came out in me,” I thought that was great).
Ed Tapscott (former AU coach, so yet another person who has lived and worked here for a number of years) won’t turn this around and to me this is now a transitional year. Abe has to look in the mirror on this. Because I think if EG had free reign, I wonder if Antawn Jamison would’ve been dealt and Arenas would’ve been retained? Starting over is going to be real tough.
Godspeed Eddie Jordan, you’ve done the city proud. And you will be missed (by me). I wish you all the best for the rest of your days.
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by George Templeton on Nov 24, 2008 11:23 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Hail Ed, Farewell Eddie...
I have a lot of respect for Eddie Jordan and what he achieved here, but faced with a clear need to rethink his previous player loyalties and coaching patterns, he either couldn’t or wouldn’t. As the old saying goes, you cannot fire teams, you can only fire coaches.
That said, I hope the OKC Thunder calls Eddie right now and offers his PS’s job as he is potentially a great fit for their young team.
Ed Tapscott is a good basketball man and he has Ernie Grunfeld’s confidence. I think you will see this team get reshaped on the fly both in terms of usage of the current players and in making one or two deals to bolster the backcourt and add some muscle up front.
I also hope that the Wizards begin to signal to Antonio Daniels that he has a place here as an assistant coach, as I think that his playing days are coming to an end faster than he or the rest of us would have wished.
by khrabb on Nov 24, 2008 11:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that EJ would be a good fit for OKC
But the problem is they are worse than us, and arguably play worse defense than us. He might be setting himself up for failure on that one, but then again, I think EJ is a pretty bold coach. It might be a good risk to take with a young team like that.
Dear Diary, JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!
by Evander holyfield on Nov 24, 2008 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WOW
I never loved EJ but never hated him either. He seems to be a victim of bad luck circumstances as Gil’s injuries cost him dearly. I wish him well professionally in his career and I believe he will get another shot at a head gig. The Wiz needed a change and I will support Grunfeld’s decision.
As for the 1-10 team and this weird interim coaching hire, YIKES!
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by Mac G on Nov 24, 2008 11:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Definitely a sad moment, but needed to happen
I have worked under a lot of bosses during my professional career, and I’ve been fortunate that many of them were both pleasant to work for and great leaders. Although similar in that respect, all have been very different.
Some understood all the nuances of the business and knew how to successfully micromanage and delegate rolls to people while staying involved and on top of everything. Others may not have had the same grasp knowledge or smarts, but made up for it in with their moxie &motivational skills. Time and time again this type of manager was able to light fires under people that were unhappy or relatively unknown and get them to take charge and excel at their job. Finally there are the teachers, who understand the fundamentals and can add to a person’s skill set.
I think EJ is more the first type. He is a very smart coach that has a very complex, creative and effective offensive system. He pays very close attention to the details and gets visibly frustrated when players aren’t where they’re supposed to be or deviate from his offensive scheme. BTH aside, he hasn’t struck me as someone that has really inspired any of the players and if anything has made some players (younger ones in particular) devoid of the confidence. He seems impatient at times and has made it clear that he prefers working with veterans as opposed helping young players develop. I know he has given some guys opportunities to prove themselves, he just hasn’t greatly improved their games.
I still believe EJ is a very good coach and manager. Eddie’s offensive system is built for a pass first point guard with great vision who can create for a slew of unselfish athletes that all have solid passing and outside shooting skills (Phoenix, Utah, Dallas). Moreover he needs veterans, or players with "high basketball IQs".
I’m sure he will find another job and do a very good job with that team. I’m grateful for everything he’s helped us achieve over the years and I’m sad to see him go.
by TremendousUpside on Nov 24, 2008 11:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
In the end he had a team that he was unable to motivate and unable to improve upon. You can blame the players, but one can also say he lacked the motiviational / teaching skills that are required.
by TremendousUpside on Nov 24, 2008 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I also
Give my best to EJ and wish him future success. He did a lot for this team, and I appreciate his overall body of work.
However, I don’t think he was ever going to be the coach to get us over the hump, and really, it was time. Perhaps it seems unfair that he gets canned without Arenas and Haywood (and Roger Mason Jr), but there isn’t an excuse for a team with two all-stars to be 1-10. EJ just wasn’t getting enough out of this roster and I don’t have a problem with EG saying it is time for a new direction and voice. I agree that the players didn’t tune him out, but they also weren’t executing and haven’t been playing with enough fire and passion. The team (even last year I felt this) had become content with being middle-of-the-road — good enough to win when they played hard, but not good enough to win consistently. This year that attitude caught up with them.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 24, 2008 11:53 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm shocked, but OK with it.
I’ve been on the fire EJ bandwagon for awhile now, and I actually didn’t think I’d see it happen. I do like the fact that we did not promote Mike O’Koren, because I think that he would have been just another EJ.
However, I do wish him well, and he did get us to the playoffs four consecutive years, and in D.C., that certainly is an accomplishment. But I think his inability to develop our young talent was probably the last straw. Yes, we have a veteran core in the Arenas, Butler and Jamison, but we have young players that need to play with them.
In the NBA, it seems that you have a few great coaches, loads of mediocre but serviceable coaches, and a few terrible ones. I think that Eddie was clearly in the second pack. Yes, he got the team to the playoffs, but he still has a losing record in Washington over that period.
Is Ed Tapscott the answer? Yeah, probably not. But I’d wager that with or without Eddie we weren’t going to make the playoffs this year either.
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by mamemimo on Nov 24, 2008 12:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Flabbergasted
I never would have guessed this would have happened this soon. I really liked Eddie Jordan, all of the players (besides Blatche possibly) seemed to like and listen to him. I would have rather seen some type of trade before seeing the coach gone. Granted, Eddie’s rotation left much to be desired at times but it’s the players that need to execute and perform on the court. I really truly hope he gets on board with another team and has success, just not against us. Obviously it’s nothing we can do now so if Tapscott doesn’t work out and/or is temporary who should we go after? I would assume Avery Johnson, Flip Saunders, and Jeff Van Gundy are at the top of the list. Whoever’s going to preach defense and have our players execute it best I’m all for them. Man, if Tom Thibodeau had come on board like he was supposed to we might not be having this conversation.
by bigrm18 on Nov 24, 2008 12:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed on all counts
Eddie Jordan took this team out of embarrassing obscurity into the realm of respectability. With a full, healthy roster, he got to coach the All-Star team two years ago. This team’s luck turned way south, and I do hope the league recognizes that and gives him a shot somewhere else.
The team is 1-10 and help isn’t coming in the near future. Tapscott isn’t going to be the answer, but the firing is a recognition that it’s time to try something new. We aren’t going to the playoffs this year, and it’s time to develop the young guys and start thinking about how to build a championship contender. I think the Big 3 can still be the bedrock of such a contender, but we need to be ready for a lot of Wizards-Celtics or Wizards-Bulls references for the rest of the season.
Eddie, you’ve done this city proud. We didn’t always love your substitution patterns, but you did more for DC basketball than any coach in my lifetime. Thank you.
by sierradave on Nov 24, 2008 12:04 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
He'll find a job...
I wouldnt worry about it too much
by hibachi on Nov 24, 2008 12:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The team obviously needed a shakeup
And unfortunately EJ was the only real option. O’Koren is a loyal Jordan assistant and certainly not head coaching material. It would have been awkward and classless to ask him to coach a few games for his fired friend before he himself left. There is certainly no place on the bench for him without EJ.
I liked them both very much and wish them well.
I don’t think Eddie really failed, but many of his decisions this year puzzled me and he started to lose my confidence. He was thrown into difficult situations many times. Under different circumstances I think he could have led us to our goal, but I don’t disagree strongly with this move.
I still have a lot of confidence in Grunfeld and look forward to seeing what he has in mind. He obviously has some plan.
A few comments seemed to imply that Abe has lost some of his mental capacity. I can tell you from personal experience that that is not the case. His health has been deteriorating, but mentally he is sharp as a tack.
by MR on Nov 24, 2008 12:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
At least I will no longer be jealous...
of his son, who got to grow up on the floor of the phone booth.
by Lukbuster on Nov 24, 2008 12:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It was time
There was no excuse for the loss to New York with 7 players.
Things that I am looking forward to seeing from this team after such a losing their head coach:
1. Do Caron and AJ step up even more into the leadership roles and play with some much needed fire?
2. Does our rotation shorten? Or at least make more sense now?
3. Do we hire an established coach early this season or wait until the off season to hire a lesser known coach after scouting? Are Flip Saunders and Avery Johnson the leading candidates right now or are there some lead assistants around the league that Ernie has in mind?
4. Does our defense improve?
5. What offense do we use now? Do we still run the Princeton while Ed Tapscott is at the helm? I think it would be smart for him to get the team to run a lot more, and give Dee Brown, McGee, and Nick Young a lot of minutes, who can all make that happen.
What do you think the over/under is on games it takes us to get our next win? Can Tapscott get us fired up for a win on Tuesday vs Golden State? After that game it looks possible for us to take a pretty long slide.
Eddie Jordan obviously had a great deal to do with our success over the last 4 years, and one can’t help but wonder what would have happened had he got a chance to coach our fully healthy squad. It sucks that this is how he had to go, but it didn’t look like there was much else that could be done to get through to this team, and it also looked like the team was taking a toll on EJ as well by his look during the past few post-game press conferences.
Dear Diary, JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!
by Evander holyfield on Nov 24, 2008 12:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Avery Johnson
as head coach terrifies me. I do not see the vets or the young guys responding to him very well. Unless he mellows out a bit. Jeff Van Gundy, male nurse, intrigues me (i just think he looks like a male nurse – not sure why) as does flip saunders, or, let’s get AD as player-coach and role with it.
by little stevie colter on Nov 24, 2008 12:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If they did hire Avery
He’d be gone in less than a year.
I do agree with one post I saw: EJ is a coach for veterans. When we had a healthy roster of experienced, talented players, EJ could coach with the best of them. Now that we have essentially a team of youngsters, he was lost. He had to teach and coach (read: win), and any coach can tell you how hard that is.
by Pryme on Nov 24, 2008 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
also
wizards insider is hilarious. last 2 weeks, nothing but ‘FIRE EJ, HE’S A %^&$# IDIOT!!!!’
now 70-some odd percent say the firing was unfair.
by little stevie colter on Nov 24, 2008 12:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I've never been a big Flip Saunders fan
but I’ve heard people mention his name on here. Would he really be right for the Wizards?
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by George Templeton on Nov 24, 2008 1:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yeah, dunno too much about flip
but he’s pretty easy going (players coach) and supposed defensive-minded.
by little stevie colter on Nov 24, 2008 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I haven’t been a fan of Eddie Jordan so I’m happy with this decision. The timing of it is horrible (I hate early season firings), but overall I’m happy. The team needed a change.
On his replacement ….. it looks a difficult decision. I don’t like the idea of giving a rookie head coach a job like this and not give him the benefit of a training camp. Someone with experience is necessary, or perhaps a short term fill in with a replacement coming next summer.
by NBR on Nov 24, 2008 1:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Brain fart...
Who was the assistant coach the Wiz were going to hire last season? The guy eddie didn’t want to work with. I think he was supposed to be an expert on defense?
by Lukbuster on Nov 24, 2008 1:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tom Thibodeaux
Who if Tapscott is the coach the rest of the year, is a dead certainty to be the Wizards coach next year.
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by George Templeton on Nov 24, 2008 1:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the turkeys, here's your pink slip
Ouch:
Jordan was informed of the decision this morning around 8 a.m. shortly after he and his wife, Charrisse, handed out Thanksgiving turkeys to the needy at a team-sponsored charitable event.
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by JakeTheSnake on Nov 24, 2008 2:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
I wish EJ the best, I came back to the Wiz because of him, and I feel terrible that it has to end this way.
Its always Roger Mason (Jr.) time!
by ledellforlife on Nov 24, 2008 3:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
One question though
Where is the vitriol against Grunfeld? He made the roster, and its obviously not performing like it ought…
Its always Roger Mason (Jr.) time!
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