Open Thread: Regular Season Game 11 v. New York Knicks
by Mike Prada on Nov 22, 2008 6:09 PM EST
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I love this photo because literally every single player is ignoring Isiah Thomas. I'm sure I'm taking this out of context, but it's just so damn amusing.
Anyway, the Knicks will trot out a skeleton crew tonight after their two big trades yesterday. The result the last time we played the Knicks caused me to unleash this epic rant that made less sense than anything that's ever been posted here. Hopefully, that won't happen again tonight.
I'm taking the girlfriend out tonight, so I'll probably catch this one on archive. For those watching live, chat about the game here.
GO WIZARDS!
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Bad call
What’s more romantic than staying at home and watching Wizards and Knicks?
And I’m pretty sure this is the least coherent thing ever written on this site.
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That is a hilarious picture
Quentin Richardson’s look is priceless, and I am assuming they are ignoring Isiah.
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 6:52 PM EST reply actions
This should be fun
Brendan Haywood is going to be with the Wizards Pregame crew tonight. What’s the over/under on veiled shots he takes at Etan Thomas? I’ll say 3.5.
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Nice
Some Wiz pregame action. I hope he sends some good ol’ subliminals to Etan.
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 7:01 PM EST reply actions
The blame can be place on everybody
He’s talking solely about Etan Thomas.
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 7:02 PM EST reply actions
NY Dressing 7 or 8 guys tonight
If we don’t win this one…
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 7:04 PM EST reply actions
This is who we're facing tonight
Starters:
Nate Robinson
Chris Duhon
Quentin Richardson
Wilson Chandler
David Lee
Bench:
Malik Roberson
Anthony Roberson
On the bench but almost definitely won’t play:
Stephon Marbury
If we can’t win tonight, there are huge, huge problems.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 22, 2008 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
If you're Stephon Marbury
How do you not play for the Knicks under their current situation? After this season, your contract is up, albeit for 21 mil, but still, you are basically starting from scratch because I don’t see any team having faith in signing a FA Marbury that hasn’t played or hasn’t shown anything for a pretty long time now.
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
In addition
In much simpler terms, you are a basketball player. You’re telling me Gilbert Arenas would chose not to play if he had the chance? Marbury just looks pathetic right now.
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
All of those arguments are logical
Sadly, Starbury lacks any logic hence why he decided to sit out. And Seth is saying that Jerome James has been activated tonight which means Starbury doesn’t have to suit up.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 22, 2008 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
Uh Oh
It just hit me how great of a mid level FA pick up Brendan would be for the Knicks if they do indeed sign Lebron and Bosh…
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 7:11 PM EST reply actions
He's probably an afterthought at this rate
The Knicks will probably be trotting out a lineup of Nash, Wade, Bron, Bosh, and Amare in 2010.*
- - Not really. But your scenario does scare me a little.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 22, 2008 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
Thats true
But looking at the Knicks roster, they don’t have a force in the middle. With all the offense Lebron and whatever 2 free agents go to NY with him, they are going to be looking to reinforce their defense, and that starts in the middle. If I’m Donnie Walsh, Brendan Haywood is first on my list right now for free agent pick ups in the range of 8-9 mil a year.
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
Caron's not a FA til the year after
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
No idea
Probably something about cheese.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 22, 2008 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
There we go
Now we’re in a rhythm (I think).
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2 fouls for JaVale in 4:01
Just what we needed.
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He's missing
point blank shots. He’s getting good attempts, but if you miss all of them, what does it matter?
AD is goin' all Gilbert on everyone!
Daniels, who returned last night after missing four of five games, wanted to go tonight but Coach Eddie Jordan said the coaches made the decision to have him sit. Daniels was not happy with the decision and tossed his game jersey on the floor of the locker room after he was told.
Jordan: “He thinks he’s ready to go but I want to make sure. The coaches didn’t like his pregame so, we’re going to save him from himself.”
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Actual comment
on Wiz Insider:
Marbury about to be bought out and will sign with the Wizards. Gil will move to shooting guard.
Posted by: ptp23 | November 22, 2008 7:35 PM
Come again?
Never trust
comments on Wizards Insider.
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
Just curious
What do you all think would be worse: Trading for Jamaal Tinsley or signing Marbury after he gets bought out?
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 22, 2008 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
Both seem
just downright disrespectful to the fans
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
I think at this point-
given where the wizards are, people will get excited about anything. Marbury is crazy and not in the good way.
Looks like a good pick up for fantasy league at least
Quentin Richardson with 4 3’s. Jeez.
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 7:59 PM EST reply actions
Right
He kills us every time
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
Do the Wizards
think they’ll get hurt or something if they actually guard the 3 point line? I mean it’s ridiculous and it happens all the time. Am I missing something? Can we please stop sinking into the lane and leaving 3 point shooters open?
Awesome
I think Q is on pace to hit 25 three pointers right now.
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It's funny
I remember watching him at VC at UNC, and I definitely know Carter’s been in the league awhile, but hearing that his is Jamison’s 11th season makes me feel old at 26.
I didn't hear
But I’m guessing it came from someone who just walked in thinking that the Rangers were playing tonight.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 22, 2008 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHA
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
That sounds so true
And I laughed. Oh I laughed
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
I was just about to ask that! HAHA
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
Unless
The game is in hand by then, which doesn’t look at all likely. Unless Q-Rich has 80 by then, which is likely.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 22, 2008 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
Eddie Jordan
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
That would be my guess too.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 22, 2008 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
Is this really happening?
Are we really watching Etan Thomas and Malik Rose battle down low? Is this really NBA basketball?
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But
“He has been outstanding”
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
If you could get points for "being aggressive"
Etan would be Kobe Bryant.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 22, 2008 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
Then again
Etan has the acting skills of Vlade Divac when it comes to aggression.
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
Ouch
Nate just made Juan look silly. Real silly.
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Eddie Jordan
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
They probably didn't bring enough towels.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 22, 2008 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
I'll give that to Juan
He always assists much more than he turns it over
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 8:20 PM EST reply actions
Ugh
I know that was only one play, but I don’t think Andray will be repeating last night’s performance.
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I can't imagine
Andray preparing for a home game against the Rockets more than an away game versus 7 Knicks.
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
Right now
Both teams are on pace to score in the 120’s.
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That's Songaila's shot
Pick n roll at the top of the key
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 8:27 PM EST reply actions
Yeah
When he’s open, he’s just about automatic on that one.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 22, 2008 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
That's why I don't understand EJ's use of Songaila this year
He should be in with McGee, a long defensive 5, so he can get shots at the high post at the 4. Doesn’t that make sense?
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
That makes tons of sense
Hence, why we don’t do it.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 22, 2008 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Also
Songaila can pass, thus creating oop opportunities from the high post. Now that could work.
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
What???
There’s a Blatche jersey at MSG?
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Oh wait
Blatche is from Syracuse, it’s probably a friend of his.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 22, 2008 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't even know they made one of those-
Never seen one at verizon.
My guess
Blatche got one personalized and sent it to his friend. That, or he’s got a devoted fan club up there.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 22, 2008 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
That makes sense
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 22, 2008 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
McGee I understand
2 fouls in 4 minutes will get you a seat on the bench until the 2nd half. No idea why Caron is out.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 22, 2008 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
I think he was
That’s probably it, but you think Eddie would’ve brought him in when Q sat down. But Taser played well, so I won’t complain too much.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 22, 2008 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
Man
Chandler is athletic on the block/baseline
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 8:39 PM EST reply actions
TASER!
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SICK
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
McGuire
8 boards in 14 minutes. Niiiiiiiiice.
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CBS says 9 boards
either way – great work. I’m guessing EJ just wants to rest Caron a little and McGuire made it easy? I hope CB3 is okay physically…
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 22, 2008 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
Thats what I like to see
A player stepping up to show his worth when he gets a chance. Hopefully EJ remembers this effort.
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
Halftime Viewing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n26vlIIBU3Y
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Oh Isaiah
Think he’ll ever get a substantial job in the league again?
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
Hell no!
But maybe he can get one with the Oakland Raiders. He’d fit well with them.
Its pretty rediculous
Somebody showed some real potential in him in NY. He got rose to the top pretty quickly, but his fall was definitely much, much faster.
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
Which reminds me
Has there been any discussion of sending McGee to the Pete Newell Big Man Camp? Or Blatche?
Let's hope so
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 22, 2008 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
Nice pass
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 9:01 PM EST reply actions
Those shots behind that line are worth more!
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PLUCKED
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 9:03 PM EST reply actions
Does that count as a JaVale-oop?
I mean, he didn’t dunk it, but that was nice.
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I dont think anyone else
on the Wiz could have converted that oop
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 22, 2008 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
if they lose
to these undermanned shot-jacking punks i’m going to be sick.
if nate robinson scores another inside bucket…..
awful
by little stevie colter on Nov 22, 2008 9:06 PM EST reply actions
Wow
I think we missed 5 shots in that sequence.
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He clearly
believes in himself, but I just don’t get what he’s done to warrant playing 18 minutes on 4-11 shooting. He can’t be controlled, he’s always going to jack up 3s with time on the shot clock, EJ has to bench him
Whoo!
There we go. Hopefully that sparks something.
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spark extinguished
with one more freaking 3 pointer. feels just like last N.Y. game
by little stevie colter on Nov 22, 2008 9:18 PM EST reply actions
As bad as we're playing
I can’t believe we’re as close as we are. Probably more a statement on the Knicks than anything.
My hope
Is that they’ve just been toying around with them for 3 quarters and now they’re really going to start playing. I hope.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 22, 2008 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
Actually
I think we’ve played well except for guarding the 3 point line (as always). Lot’s of effort overall and good ball movement on offense. I mean, I think we have a 10 game sample that says our team is not good and won’t blow anybody out so any improvement is a plus.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 22, 2008 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
The defense is embarassing
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
Amen
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 22, 2008 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
wizards out rebounding the Knicks, more points in the paint, shooting 47% –
and they can’t shake the Knicks because they can’t defend the 3-point line.
The only way the Knicks win this game is if they hit 3-pointers – and Eddie is still having his players “defending the rim”……………
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And if we are going to play at this pace
McGee should be on the court. He’s, like, infinitely faster than Songaila.
Crikey
Nate just turned Juan Dixon into Antonio Daniels.
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So Dixon...
0 for 5. Why is he in? NOT for defense! Arghh.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 22, 2008 9:45 PM EST reply actions
The only thing I can figure
is that EJ secretly likes his shotjacking with 12 seconds left on the shotclock. It’s really the only explanation left.
Little late
For McGee to be coming in…though D-Song certainly didn’t cost us this one tonight.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 22, 2008 9:52 PM EST reply actions
Boy this has to be the low point
Losing to a 7 man roster of a team that is missing its 2 best players.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 22, 2008 9:53 PM EST reply actions
I can't believe how depressing that game was-
yet I couldn’t make myself stop watching. Life is very tough as a wizards fan right now. We are beyond bad and I don’t see this changing anytime soon.
Minutes Watch
Jamison played 42 minutes
Butler played 31 and a half minutes
Stevenson played 37 and a half minutes
Songaila played 25 minutes
Brown played 22 minutes
NY and Taser each played 19 minutes
Dixon played just under 13 minutes
Thomas played just under 12 minutes, all in the first half
Blatche played 10 minutes, all in the first half
McGee played 8 and a half minutes, all but 45 seconds of those in the first half.
Stevenson and NY
Need to switch places on this list – same with McGee and Songaila (though, as I said earlier, D-Song played well in this game). 3 fouls early in the second half is NOT foul trouble.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 22, 2008 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
I find them useful
I always look at it to compare who got the most minutes with who I think actually deserved the most minutes.
For example, seeing Stevenson, who clearly isn’t the third best player and wasn’t the third best player tonight just triggers a big, flashing red light in my mind.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 22, 2008 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
It could be worse
We could be Texas Tech fans.
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Or -
you could be a MD fan like me and be having a really, really bad night
It's official
We really are a crappy team. I was trying to psyche myself out saying that we weren’t playing our best and that we have two all stars that will get us over the hump but I see that we need more than two all stars; we need a miracle, probably more than one actually.
I'm beginning to come around -
on the need for a new coach
Just look at the Knicks
They played the same lineup as last year, MINUS two big scorers, and they still managed to drop in major points. These were the same Knicks who were pathetic last year. Coaching means a lot.
me too
I really like Eddie Jordan but he just isn’t getting it. I’ve always supported Eddie over the years but I’m all on board for a new head coach. I wonder what Avery Johnson is doing?
4th game in 5 nights
i would have been surprised if we’d won tonight.
by DarrellWalkerFan on Nov 22, 2008 10:19 PM EST reply actions
Knicks
were on a back-to-back with 7 players and playing their 3rd game in 5 nights. They have a new coach and a new system. No excuses for this one. We suck. We’re trying, but we suck.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 23, 2008 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
not saying we don't suck
a let down tonight is not surprising to me is all.
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