Open Thread: Regular Season Game 9 v. Atlanta Hawks
by Mike Prada on Nov 19, 2008 6:30 PM EST
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PrintWashington Wizards at Atlanta Hawks, Nov 19, 2008 7:00 PM EST
I have a meeting now, but I'll be back to chat it up in the game thread shortly.
Atlanta's struggling, having lost their last four games after a 6-0 start. Two of those losses were to New Jersey, so that makes me feel a little better about us losing to the Nets.
For a more comprehensive game preview, Peachtree Hoops has what you need.
GO WIZARDS!
UPDATE: Dee & JaVale will start tonight, Al Horford is out with an ankle injury.
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Our prayers have possibly been answered
Eddie is going to start Dee Brown and Javale McGee. Oh Al Horford AND Josh Smith are not playing. If we still happen to lose then I don’t care what any says; we suck!
GO WIZARDS!!
Link?
Not that I doubt you, but just so I can see it with my own two eyes.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 19, 2008 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
Wiz Outlet
http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/outlet/2008/Nov/19/javale-mcgee-dee-brown-start/
Representing DC with Wizards & Stuff - Truth About It Dot Net
As a former McGee-as-a-starter skeptic,
I’ve support this. It seems everyone who was conservative about this before has come around after the last Heat game.
After reading that Washington Time blog, and thinking about it only slightly, I think I like Dee Brown starting too.
Here's the other link
about the injuries if you wanted that as well
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/11/19/sports/BKN-Hawks-Horford-Out.php
Me either
But now that I think about it, Juan has played his best when he comes off the bench. Hopefully he will revert back to the way he was playing when he was coming off the bench and hopefully McGee doesn’t somehow get the jitters and start to look like a rookie that isn’t ready to start in the NBA.
I wonder if starting 3 PGs
in the first 8 games sets a NBA record in futility.
Prepare yourselves, Wizards fans
for The Randolph Morris Experience*.
*Year-to-date, The Randolph Morris Experience has consisted of 10 personal fouls in 23 minutes. And no facial expressions.
But he's playing against the Wizards tonight....
I smell a breakout game….
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The four step post move?
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 19, 2008 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
Quick
Who wants to guess how many points our starting PG has scored this season?
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BTW
Hoopinion can’t answer :P
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 19, 2008 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
Lower.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 19, 2008 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
Right in between
The answer is 4. In 60 minutes of playing time no less.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 19, 2008 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm
In 8 games? I’ll go with 32
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 19, 2008 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
Way lower.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 19, 2008 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
I guess I dont understand the question
You can’t mean the total points scored in the game by starting PGs?
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 19, 2008 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry
What I was trying to ask was how many points tonight’s starting PG, Dee Brown, has scored to this point in the season.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 19, 2008 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
Who are these guys in blue?
And what have they done with the Wizards?!
Wow
JaVale starts → Early lead
SHOCKING.
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Probably
Streak aside, EJ is very loyal to veterans, especially those for whom he’s defined their roles.
It wouldn't shock me either
But at least Stevenson is still capable of playing competent NBA basketball for 20-25 minutes a game, so I’m not as worked up about him starting over Nick Young as I was about Etan starting over JaVale.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 19, 2008 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
The only problem
I have with Deshawn starting is that he can’t create off the dribble – giving us 2 guards (no matter the PG ) who can’t create for themselves. With Gil it’s fine b/c the floor is opened up and he can spot up for 3s.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 19, 2008 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
Which is why
It’s good to see him take a chance w/ Javale and Dee BRown
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 19, 2008 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
Reason #8 McGee should be starting
(if we’re only up to 8)
There’s a 90% chance Thomas would’ve bobbled that pass.
Pech!
In the first quarter?
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Etan to Blatche
Is that Etan’s first assist this year?
Yes
It only took 105 minutesm but Etan has an assist.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 19, 2008 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
I think it might be Pech
He’s like a 7 foot Peja Stojackovic.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 19, 2008 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
Pech
I’d say Pech is more of a shooting guard.
i think its blatche
hes more mobile and theoretically more able to defend SFs, also pech might be a better rebounder
by SidVicious25 on Nov 19, 2008 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
He has been this year
though last year Blatche had a slightly better rebound rate (though both Blatche and Pech were top-4 on the team).
Yeah
He’s looked a lot better coming off the bench (although he still can’t shoot).
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 19, 2008 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh.
To paraphrase Bill Simmons: Etan couldn’t score 20 points in two hours if he was in the gym by himself.
Only down by 2?
I’m fine with that. By the way, I can’t support any lineup that has Andray Blatche guarding Joe Johnson.
More Pech
A few plays ago, when Blatche had the ball on the wing, both Thomas and Pech dove to the basket, which is theoretically good, but then they both just stood there when the pass didn’t come. It was obvious Pech knew he wasn’t supposed to be there with Thomas, but equally obvious he had no idea where to go.
It ended well in that Pech got the rebound, but then didn’t end well when Dixon travelled.
Call me crazy
But wouldn’t this be the ideal time for some Taser?
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I dont know....
im rather intrigued by the thought of a javle-pech c-pf combo
by SidVicious25 on Nov 19, 2008 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
Not rebounding well at all either.
Last year missed shots didn’t matter as much with all our offensive boards…
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 19, 2008 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
Though
the effort is there tonight. I’m not sure that’s been the case all year.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 19, 2008 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
Nick Young!
That was a nasty move.
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Where's Javale?
Etan’s getting more minutes today than when he was a starter.
Yeah
I think whenever he can decent production from Etan he’ll milk it as much as he can.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 19, 2008 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
I think he's battling an injury
Don’t quote me on that though.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 19, 2008 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
Good thing Solomon Jones
added 15 pounds of muscle in the off-season or that might have been embarrassing for him.
Just call it
one of the best almost dunks that you’ve ever seen.
Goodness gracious
If JaVale would’ve made that, I would’ve left my room.
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I'm at work...
Is there anyway you can upload that Jake tonight or tomorrow on Youtube?
"My swag was phenomenal!"
I'll try
But I don’t have a DVR, so unless it shows up on a highlight reel theres not a lot I can do.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 19, 2008 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
Just my opinion
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I'm back
Hey, we’re winning!
Hey, JaVale actually started. Dee Brown’s kind of interesting though.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Guh
The Wiz have struggled with that 30-35 foot range defense.
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Halftime Viewing
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hey the gangs all here
just checkin in
'he nails an open three from the corner....just like you and me, this one was made by penetration' - Truthaboutit - Round 1 Game 5 Recap
As far as Dee goes
I actually like it the more I think about it. It’s just interesting.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
i think its more that hes actually a pg
and can control the tempo. we all know dixon is a sg in a pgs body. thats what we really miss from a healthy daniels
by SidVicious25 on Nov 19, 2008 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
Eddie Jordan probably doesn't agree with me
but I say more Pech in the second half.
And I’ll stop harping on this at some point, I promise.
Just in case anyone was wondering
Dee Brown’s point total for the season = 4 (still).
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Make that 5
!
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 19, 2008 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
Especially D-Song
I hate him at the 5
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 19, 2008 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
songaila?!
we already had trouble rebounding
Boy what did Songaila do to get that far down the bench
I don’t know if Pech can rebound that much better than him… But Eddie still insists on playing him at the 5!!1
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 19, 2008 8:23 PM EST reply actions
FOUL HARDER JAMISON!
We got lucky having that bounce out.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 19, 2008 8:26 PM EST reply actions
A charge!
Taken by Dee. I can’t remember the last one the Wiz drew.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 19, 2008 8:27 PM EST reply actions
That's way too long ago.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 19, 2008 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
28-16
ATL rebounding advantage. We will not win if something doesn’t change…
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 19, 2008 8:30 PM EST reply actions
Blargh
Why is Darius playing center, exactly?
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Just curious
Seeing Eddie jawing at that official made me think, has Eddie ever been ejected from a game? I can’t remember it happening.
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he has
I don’t remember specifics. A couple, maybe 3 times, I think. Just the right about for my tastes.
I may be confusing technicals with ejections a little bit. I’m pretty sure he’s been ejected though. Mike O’Koren finished the game.
After a quick Google check
He was indeed ejected back in the 06-07 season.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 19, 2008 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
I cannot believe JaVale got the quick hook for Darius
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Did Buck just call Phil, Lefty?
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Formal wax
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 19, 2008 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
What exactly is Eddie seeing here
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Memo to Andray
You. Are. Not. A. Guard.
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I think he needs more than that
Perhaps subliminal messages from Kareem Abdul Jabbar delivered via audio-tape while sleeping
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 19, 2008 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
In his defense
I think he was playing the SF position at the time with both McGee and Jamison on the floor. But still, his dribbling should be kept to a minimum.
You need to crowd him more
You know Bibby isn’t going to drive.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Yeah crappy contest there
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 19, 2008 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
I'm going to say it again
Taser would be really helpful here.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 19, 2008 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
Irony
Guess who has the best +/- tonight?
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Yes and no
Etan, yes (tied with Antawn at +3). Pech, no (-4).
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 19, 2008 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
though that woulndt be irony
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 19, 2008 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
Why is Etan jumping to block the shot before Marvin pump faked?
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Caron's passing hasn't been that great this year
I don’t think he really trusts anyone to do anything.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
i hadnt noticed
but the reasoning makes sense
by SidVicious25 on Nov 19, 2008 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
Great D Blatche!
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 19, 2008 8:52 PM EST reply actions
question
How many times have they run the offense this half? I see alot of one pass/two pass and shoot.
They're running it
But nobody’s passing after the first couple passes. There are tons of options on those plays and everyone’s choosing the shoot option.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Dixon has shot us out of this game
I’m convinced.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 19, 2008 8:56 PM EST reply actions
He's a-comin'
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 19, 2008 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Not exactly ideal
But I’ll take it.
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Jeez
That was an absolutely terrible possession, where we failed to get Antawn Jamison the ball three different times with Flip Murray on him, and it still worked.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Young and Stevenson
Jamison had Flip pinned on his back right at the beginning of the possession and DeShawn looked the other way
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
EJ had to chew them out on that possession
How do you look off AJ in the post with Flip Murray on his back – more than once – and then kick it out to the top of the key with 4 seconds left on the clock??? It’s like they show no awareness for the most simple things sometimes it blows my mind!!!
Dear Diary, JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!
by Evander holyfield on Nov 19, 2008 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
This audio is killing me
I’ll be ticked if I miss a dagger tonight.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
What has happened to Nick Young's hands?
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Why can't Nick just stay on the weakside
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Yowza
We’re being outrebounded by 19 and we have two players in double-digits, and we could still win this thing.
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Nick needs to let Caron get the ball
And then get out of the way, being ready for a kick out.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Pachulia is MANHANDLING Andray on the boards
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 19, 2008 9:10 PM EST reply actions
Pachulia
Is not a gifted athlete, but he knows how to get position.
zaza patchuli
is either a great rebounder or the wiz have 0 inside presence.
by little stevie colter on Nov 19, 2008 9:10 PM EST reply actions
Nice rotation
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Rebounding
can be taught and needs to be taught to these young guys.
Obviously
We give up a wide open three
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Stevenson!
Where have you been all of my life?
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Exactly
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 19, 2008 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
joe johnson
not at the top of his game tonight, thank god.
by little stevie colter on Nov 19, 2008 9:12 PM EST reply actions
What the hell is Stevenon doing
I don’t like those shots even if he makes them…
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DeShawn probably thinks the Hakws are the Hornets
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
i prefer not to wonder about
what deshawn thinks
by little stevie colter on Nov 19, 2008 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
WOW
I dont know how many NO NO NO … yes… shots I’ve seen tonight.
Horrible shots that just happen to go in. Boy we are getting lucky, but if i gotta take it, I guess I will.
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 19, 2008 9:13 PM EST reply actions
Stevenson
is just a straight-up streak shooter. He will have nights like these, and nights like all his other so far this season.
That's fine
The problem is that Stevenson thinks that he has the liberty to shoot until he gets hot.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
yep
all shooters think that. You shoot through a slump.
And then keep shooting after he goes cold.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 19, 2008 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
An actual shooter has the right to do that
But Stevenson can neither drive nor hit the open shot.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
Blargh
If we get to make toughies so can they
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Hmmm
Nice try Deshawn
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 19, 2008 9:15 PM EST reply actions
sorry
yeah, I was on delay earlier, but I just sped up so I could join the chat.
I'm not blaming you for anything
Don’t change your ways.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
So...
I’m presuming Eddie’s drawing up a High Iso for Caron, telling him to hold it as long as possible.
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Sounds about right
I want to see him attack the rim … but you KNOW he will pull up for the 15 footer.
Dixon lost this for us
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 19, 2008 9:20 PM EST reply actions
Then Nick Young right after that
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 19, 2008 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
that was more forgivable though
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 19, 2008 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
I'm actually more upset about Nick than Juan
How do you pick the ball up off the floor and shoot a completely out-of-rhythm fadeaway?
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 19, 2008 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
Worst possession in history of basketball
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by Evander holyfield on Nov 19, 2008 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Unbelievable
Dixon broke the play!!!!
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
That's one game
Out of 92.
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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 19, 2008 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
One game
I really don’t want to have this argument now, but the guy may be the most inefficient scorer in the league.
And I’m a huge UMD fan too.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
He can't create in the NBA
But he tries to shoot off the dribble and he just cant do it.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 19, 2008 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Stevenson 2-9 from 3 pt line
I’m late and not watching the game. Why was he shooting a 3 with a one pt. lead?
So what were the Wiz Kids doing
Sounds like they wasted some time and that was the best they could come up with?
by nicefellow31 on Nov 19, 2008 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
They trapped Caron and nobody moved
Not really the kids’ faults.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Well
The real problem as has been stated many times is that Juan is NOT a PG and should not be asked to handle the ball at the end. I believe strongly that Caron is actually the best PG we have on this team.
i dont nkow about best pg
but he def should have gotten the inbounds pass
by SidVicious25 on Nov 19, 2008 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Caron as a point guard
Is more than likely detrimental to this team.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
I mean, that's essentially what he was last year
He was a point forward that initiated the offense.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Which isn't his role
I believe that he would explode if he had someone to get him the ball where he didn’t have to create his own shot every single time. Because he is so good, he can get by at point, but having an actual distributor would take him to another level.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
I mean I agree to a certain extent
But Caron was the team’s best passer last year. I see no reason why he can’t be the same this time around.
He’s just not passing and the team just isn’t moving. I honestly think they don’t want to run the Princeton anymore. There’s just no movement after a while.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
No one is going backdoor and their movement overall is completely stagnant. Additionally, with no true center, the pick and roll is not a threat; countless times last year Brendan would come off the screen and turn around just in time to slam it home. Eddie’s offense would work with a competent unit, but this team is a bit much.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
Additionally, with no true center, the pick and roll is not a threat; countless times last year Brendan would come off the screen and turn around just in time to slam it home.
There are a few reasons it doesn’t work. One is that Etan is absolutely worthless. Another is that our shooters don’t space the floor well.
But the point is moot. Any offense will run screen and rolls.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
I'm not sure if you're disagreeing
But my point was that Caron’s passing abilities are limited because the screen and roll is nonexistent, mostly because Etan isn’t even D-League caliber.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
Then I'm not disagreeing with you
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
All true
Which is scary. I mean, Caron is the only guy with confident ball handling skills and the ability to pass at all.
Someone get Caron and Antawn Purple Hearts or somehing
They don’t deserve this.
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My question is
Why are we only getting to the line 12 times in one game? I’ve seen Lebron get that by himself countless times…
There were a couple
mostly when mcgee was in
by SidVicious25 on Nov 19, 2008 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
They ran screen and rolls
They ran plays. They just didn’t work.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Minutes Watch
Butler played 40 minutes
Jamison played just under 37 minutes
Stevenson played just under 34 minutes
NY played about 28 and a half minutes
McGee played 22 and a half minutes
Brown played about 19 and a half minutes
Blatche played 17 minutes
Thomas played 16 and a half minutes
Dixon played just under 15 minutes
Songaila played 6 minutes
Pecherov played 4 minutes
McGuire gets a DNP-CD.
DeShawn played 34 minutes
That’s ridiculous
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
He is a veteran.
Veterans get plenty of playing time.
by nicefellow31 on Nov 19, 2008 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
It's tough
Dixon was giving them nothing, and I’m not sure NY’s up for playing more than 30 minutes at this point (much as we might wish he is).
Yeah
I think it says more about the sad state of the team than Eddie.
Gilbert, come back please.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
The other night
When he had 21 pts and won the game for the Spurs with a 3, a little part of me died inside
He's been really great for them in general
And while I think losing Haywood was devastating, we’re seeing how much we miss roger also.
I see McGee started
Did they run any plays for him or did he have to find his points on putbacks?
What do they do now?
Biggest problem I saw tonight was rebounding. Absolutely brutal down the stretch. That and the ill-advised shot selection.
I honestly don’t know if they can get more that 8 wins by 2009
Not enough McGee
They should also start running plays for him instead using him exclusively as a screener.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
No easy answers
McGee’s rebounding will improve once he builds a little more upper body strength, I think. Both last night and tonight there were times where he could’ve pulled some down, but instead, let opponents take it away from him or at least make him fumble it.
Blatche was the team’s third-best rebounder last year (and second-best the year before that), and that ability has virtually disappeared this season. Two rebounds in 17 minutes tonight, two in 14 and a half minutes and one in 13 and a half minutes (his last three games) is abysmal.
Pecherov is a good rebounder, but tonight he was standing around a lot, and EJ seems reluctant to give him a lot of non-garbage time minutes. McGuire can’t seem to buy time on the court, in part because Butler plays so much and the Wizards need him to continue doing so.
Thomas was the best rebounder on the team in ‘06-’07, but that’s also disappeared this year. A lot of that is understandable, given what he’s been through and that he’s still working himself back, but it certainly doesn’t help the Wizards here and now.
In addition, the Wizards really don’t have any good rebounding guards. The guard with the best rebound rate last season was Mike Wilks, followed by Arenas. Eliminating those two due to sample size, the best rebounding guard was Nick Young at 5.8, almost a third of what the team leader’s (Jamison) was. Dixon’s rebound rate was in the mid-to-upper sixes last season with Detroit and Toronto, which is better but not really anything to aspire to.
In short, I think the answer is…wait until Haywood comes back.
by Jon L on Nov 19, 2008 9:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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