Every point is worth the same
UPDATE: Whaddaya know.
Unlike Friday night's 20-point loss in Miami, the Wizards overcame a slow start and a third-quarter blitz by the Heat to make a game of it, but ultimately, poor shooting and a flurry of late-game mistakes did them in.
And there's no mention of what happened in the third quarter.
I'm not blaming Ivan for this at all. Journalists are supposed to pick out the plays that decide the margin of the game. The margin was tight, so the best plays to use were the ones where the game was actually tight. I'm just not surprised.
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I am about 90 percent certain that the angle that's going to be taken on this loss will read something like this.
The Wizards didn't show any composure down the stretch. Andray Blatche and Nick Young cost them the game with their untimely turnovers. If we just didn't turn the ball over, we would have won. It's their fault.
And that angle is completely unfair. You know why? We lost this game not in the fourth quarter, but right after halftime. That was when the Heat stretched a two-point lead to 14 in the first 3:20 of the third quarter. You know who was on the floor during that stretch? Etan Thomas and DeShawn Stevenson. You know who wasn't? Andray Blatche and Nick Young.
It was Etan Thomas who committed two turnovers and missed two point-blank shots. It was all the veterans who never rotated defensively in transition, leaving their guys wide open. And it was during that stretch that Caron Butler and Antawn Jamison had to do virtually everything offensively. They didn't perform either, but can you blame them when you have two guys who are doing absolutely nothing out there?
Yes, Nick and Dray's turnovers hurt us. But we played our best defense down the stretch, and they were a big part of that. Even as they were committing silly turnovers, they were cutting down our lead. And if they and the other three guys on the court didn't have to come back from so far down, this game would have been ours. Alas, it was simply too much to overcome. A play like Shawn Marion's garbage basket, for example, was bound to happen and we had no margin for error because we were so far behind.
If our starters don't play that terribly to start the third quarter, we win that game. Plain and simple. So don't blame Nick Young and Andray Blatche for this one, please. They don't deserve it.
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ESP
I haven’t watched the game yet…. although I did hear on the radio that the Wizards lost.
I can almost guarantee that Eddie started his favorite 5 (Stevenson, Dixon, Jamison, Butler and Thomas) – and that the Wizards dug a hole in the 1st quarter again….
I’d guess that the Wizards fought back to tie or maybe take a lead at halftime – but then Eddie threw that same starting lineup out there for the 3rd quarter – and that was the game!!
No amount of fine play by Nick Young or Andray Blatche off the bench will be able to offset the poor starts in the 1st and 3rd quarters by the “starters”.
I’ll watch the game on my DVR and post my thoughts later.
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Nov 18, 2008 10:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Rook,
You pretty much spelled it out right here. It’s the same song and dance every game – starters put us in a hole, javale and nick come in, and the wiz cut the lead. this game was tied at the half. again, the starters put us in a hole.
I just don’t get it. etan thomas – no offense to the guy – but he’s done. there is absolutely no reason for him to be starting, let alone get any sort of meaningful playing time. he is on the level of michael ruffin right now.
by alaroche on Nov 18, 2008 10:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thats pretty obvious by now
but whos gonna back up javale if etan is picking up splinters? songaila cant cut it on D and blatche is so much better at the 4 next to javale.
by SidVicious25 on Nov 18, 2008 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Etan's 10 minutes . . .
won’t hurt as much as a backup.
"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck
by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2008 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A combination of Blatche and Pech is probably best
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was one of the holdouts
thinking the starters couldn’t dig a 10 point hole every time out. But sho’nuff, they do. It’s a pattern, and there’s no reason to think it’s going to get better. And now it’s happening to start the 3rd quarter too.
(prada’s call of that before it happened was classic).
it is time – start your best 5, not like it’s going to get any worse.
But my question is about the specifics – McGee at the 5, or Blatche? Nick Young for Stevenson? or Dixon until AD is right (or if that ever happens).
by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2008 10:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
McGee at the 5 is a start
I’m still holding out on DeShawn, but if this keeps up for another 10 games, Nick may need to start. Nick should get more minutes though. Juan should start until Gilbert gets back, then be the fourth guard, depending on AD’s status.
Blatche backs up JaVale, Songaila backs up Jamison, with Blatche playing the four in big lineups down the stretch. Young/Stevenson is the third guard.
The thing is, I honestly believe simply benching Etan will make a difference.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey PRADAMASTER
can u do a blog bout if the Wizards has to rebuilt, tell us ur thought bout what they need to do, like tradin and gettin rid of plyers?… im kinda interested what u hv to say…
by ak47 on Nov 18, 2008 10:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
At some point
To be honest, I’m really not sure what they can do, other than stink this year, hope Gilbert comes back okay and hope to use their 2010 expirings to get someone useful. They have literally no assets this season.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 10:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I mean I'm sure it's a subject that'll be addressed in due time
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 11:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Etan
Etan Thomas is one of the great mistakes that Eddie Jordan has made as Wizards coach. Putting him on par with Haywood for the past several years, and giving him even a smidgen a playing time this year is absurd. The Wizards are at a tremendous disadvantage with him on the floor, he’s got about as much offensive game as Michael Ruffin, gets pushed around on defense, and generally does no good (although supposedly at one time he was a great hustle player, whatever that means). I’d almost rather have Calvin Booth back on the team taking Etan’s minutes.
Hopefully he’ll have some takers with his contract expiring in 2010 (the year Lebrons a free agent) and we get something (even if its just Etan Thomas off this team and eliminated as a possibility for Eddie Jordan to give excessive playing time to).
by morethesamewiz on Nov 18, 2008 10:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nick Young was, in fact, a main reason we lost, but not for the straw man reason you set up.
NY shoots too much. NY shoots too much. NY shoots too much.
He does not see his teammates. He does not see the floor.
This last problem, btw, explains one of his big turnovers (the travel, double dribble). He got confused because a fast break was in play, and I get the impression, he doesn’t know what that is.
But mainly, he shoots too much. NY shot 33.
Jamison shot 60. Butler shot 50%. Get the ball in the vets hands (nice stats for both tonight) and stop having NY shooting like he’s one of them.
Here’s the bigger problem: The Wizards offense is one pass behind. They don’t see the cutters.
I’m in DC tonight, visiting from Seattle. I was in Section 111, Row R.
Something I am glad I came 3000 to see live: JaVale McGee. His stat line isn’t stellar tonight, so you won’t know from looking at that (and btw, wevs on NY’s +5). But being there, you can see that JaVale McGee is the good news on this team right now.
by EarlM71 on Nov 18, 2008 11:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
None of those limitations matter
If we’re not forced to come back from a 14-point deficit.
And besides, Nick’s been our most efficient scorer this year, even while using a ton of possessions. Do I wish he didn’t turn the ball over? Of course. But his production is hardly the biggest problem with this team or with this game.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Defense
The defensive schemes need to be totally revamped. Our strategy seems to be to dare teams to shoot the open 3. Time after time I watch a 3 point shooter waiting in the corner while our defender drifts inside the paint, leading to an easy open 3. I thought these were mental errors, but I’ve seen it so much that I think it’s a strategy. A slightly patient team can get an open jumper almost anywhere on the floor against us and I don’t think it’s because individual players are poor defenders. I think it’s the scheme.
by MR on Nov 19, 2008 12:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Blatche is lost out there
I can spot his throw-aways and offensive fouls a good 5-10 seconds before he commits them. He should concentrate on his mid and inside game and stop being so chippy outside.
His handle seems to have gone way downhill this year. How does that happen?
Confidence I guess.
by MR on Nov 19, 2008 12:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I know what you mean
How many times do you scream at the TV per game “DON’T DO IT DRAY!” only to see him do that exact thing a moment later with disastrous results? If a guy like me can see it…why can’t he?
by five by five on Nov 19, 2008 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: each point counting the same
Kevin Arnovitz at ClipperBlog made this point in a post earlier today:
In basketball, the three points yielded by a blown possession in the second quarter count as much as a 3PM in the final set. Some might argue that the second quarter possession is even more important, because it informs both teams’ tactics down the stretch.
by Ben Q Rock on Nov 19, 2008 12:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I cannot believe...
that Coach Jordan started Thomas and Stevenson over McGee and Young in the first second halves. Good God, how much clearer does the handwriting on the wall (or in the +/- column) have to be.
by khrabb on Nov 19, 2008 3:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
nick young last night
not entirely his fault the wiz lost, but he did hurt the team last night. we need him to do better, and he’s actually capable of it.
by DarrellWalkerFan on Nov 19, 2008 5:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nick
Young has been the most consistent Wizard, at least on Offense, this year.
He’s trying much harder on the Defensive end too – you can see his hustle and desire each game on that end of the floor.
Last night, he had some misses, and some bad turn overs… but it was one game.
If we can get 7 good games (out of 8) from Nick on a consistent basis – I’d be really happy with that. Especially considering this is just his 2nd year in the League.
If they were getting consistent good games 7 out of 8 times from ALL the players, the Wizards would not be 1 – 7 right now.
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
by Rook6980 on Nov 19, 2008 5:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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