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Open Thread: Regular Season Game 8 vs. Miami Heat

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Dear Dagger,

We need you. Hell, I need you. I'm a mess without you. I miss you so damn much. I miss being with you, I miss being near you. I miss your laugh. I miss your scent; I miss your musk. When this all gets sorted out, I think you and me should get an apartment together.

Sincerely,

Steve Buckhantz

 

Game time at 7:00 pm people, talk it up.

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Well played, sir.

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 18, 2008 6:49 PM EST reply actions  

Speaking of Buck

Hope we don’t hear this tonight: (Make sure to click on the picture with your sound on).

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 18, 2008 7:04 PM EST reply actions  

At least if we get that

It means it was a close game…

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I am sorry but I had to laugh when I heard that

The good old Siegel Center (went to VCU), where the Wizards’ season started to come a cropper.

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2008 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I have to say

I was out of the country for a few weeks, and despite their record, I’m excited to watch the Wizards again.

by Jon L on Nov 18, 2008 7:11 PM EST reply actions  

Blech

Steve’s saying Eddie is searching for rhythm and harmony. Might be easier if you had a consistent rotation.

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by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 7:11 PM EST reply actions  

$40 minimum to sit in the upper deck

And watch that mess, it ain’t an easy sell these days.

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2008 7:13 PM EST reply actions  

Yep

Huge sections behind the basket up in the 400’s completely empty.

by ooba on Nov 18, 2008 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Uh-oh

I think I heard Juan say a dirty word…

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 18, 2008 7:14 PM EST reply actions  

Good defense to start

Except for with Udonis’ jumper.

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by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 7:14 PM EST reply actions  

Why do the Wizards

always try to get Etan Thomas going when the game starts? It seems he’s the main option in the post for the few possessions. Is there a reason?

by Matt K. on Nov 18, 2008 7:15 PM EST reply actions  

I think

its a habit from when we had haywood

by SidVicious25 on Nov 18, 2008 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I always forget

how ugly Marion’s shot is until I see it again.

by Jon L on Nov 18, 2008 7:16 PM EST reply actions  

no kidding

officially change my position to start McGee ASAP

by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2008 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Nick Young also?

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2008 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's start with JaVale at least

More space for Caron because you always have to worry about JaVale rolling to the rim.

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by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we need to start him

Because otherwise we must one of the only teams in the league that doesn’t have a starting guard that can take people off the dribble.

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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 18, 2008 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I wish Bill Walton were broadcasting this game

At least then we could laugh anytime he says we have “the worst help defense in the history of Western Civilization.”

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 7:18 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed

It’s not as much fun with Buckhantz and Chenier when the Wizards are playing so bad…

by Matt K. on Nov 18, 2008 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll never understand why Marion was so unhappy on the Suns

I don’t know if I can count 5 times where I’ve ever seen him create his own shot off the dribble.

by Matt K. on Nov 18, 2008 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

He's mercurial.

It’s not supposed to make sense.

by Jon L on Nov 18, 2008 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Nothing but a money thing

Because of how much credit Nash got, I think Marion wanted out because he thought he wouldn’t get the max otherwise and he thought he deserved more credit for the Suns success.

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2008 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he was

but even if he wasnt, i know he was making the most on the team

by SidVicious25 on Nov 18, 2008 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

True, but he wants just as big a deal

and it is my opinion that he felt he wouldn’t get it if he stayed in Phoenix. Plus he’s a dope.

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2008 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I kind of disagree

I don’t think it was about the money. I think it was that he had to cover for both Nash and Amare on defense and he never got any credit for it.

Of course, they made his life a zillion times easier offensively, so he was being a goof.

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by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I read :07 Seconds or Less by Jack McCallum

And Marion just seemed so much different than everyone else on the Suns. He always wanted more credit, so that definitely played a huge part in that, no question.

by Matt K. on Nov 18, 2008 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

He wasn't

And he wasn’t making the most on the team once Amare signed his extension after 2004/05.

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by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

This is just ugly basketball

Ugly, ugly basketball.

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 18, 2008 7:25 PM EST reply actions  

Check me if I'm wrong

But this is by far the earliest Eddie has gone to the bench right? (Buck says McGee and NY are coming in).

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 18, 2008 7:26 PM EST reply actions  

Ahhhhhh

Stevenson apparently has a “nerve issue with his hamstring.” Makes sense.

by Jon L on Nov 18, 2008 7:28 PM EST reply actions  

So Stevenson and Daniels didn’t forget how to play, they just have lingering, previously undisclosed injuries. Which may or may not get better anytime soon. Great.

by Aldo on Nov 18, 2008 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I love how

this has apparently been around since the preseason. It’s nice to know these things.

by Jon L on Nov 18, 2008 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Have you all met?

Joel, this is Caron. Caron, this is Joel.

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 18, 2008 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

hmm

reserves in, we play better. where have I seen this before….oh, every game.

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 18, 2008 7:32 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

deshawn

has no offensive touch with the ball

by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2008 7:33 PM EST reply actions  

Dang

Quinn schooled NY on that last second jumper

Getting buckets since 2003.

by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 18, 2008 7:35 PM EST reply actions  

The medicine man strikes again.

Can’t be having that.

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 18, 2008 7:37 PM EST reply actions  

Did Buck just say...

“That was a nice, long move.” ?

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 18, 2008 7:40 PM EST reply actions  

They really need to work on that

15 mins. at practice each day. Watching a missed alley-oop is like eating plastic fruit.

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 18, 2008 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I really hate Spoelstra

From video coordinator to Heat coach all by the age of 39. Serious case of the green eyes over here!

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2008 7:46 PM EST reply actions  

Blatche is a pretty good passer

but he decides 5 seconds before he shoots that he’s going to shoot it regardless of the circumstances.

by Aldo on Nov 18, 2008 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

Strange

it doesn’t feel like it should be a tie game.

by Jon L on Nov 18, 2008 7:56 PM EST reply actions  

This doesn't feel like it should be a game at all

Feels like a weird exhibition out there or something.

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 18, 2008 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Now if the Wizards could just . . .

REBOUND!

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2008 8:04 PM EST reply actions  

Nick looks so goofy when he's trying to look tough.

It’s almost comical.

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 18, 2008 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

Very true.

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 18, 2008 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Andray shooting 17.6% on the road

That’s bad. That’s really bad.

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 18, 2008 8:19 PM EST reply actions  

It's like deja vu all over again.

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 18, 2008 8:27 PM EST reply actions  

JaVale-oop!

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 18, 2008 8:29 PM EST reply actions  

JAVALE

More of that, please.

by Jon L on Nov 18, 2008 8:29 PM EST reply actions  

Hey, whaddaya know

JaVale checks in, we go on a run.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 8:31 PM EST reply actions  

JaVale-oop x2!

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 18, 2008 8:31 PM EST reply actions  

we had a 5-0

Javale-run just a minute ago.

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by Icantfeelmyface on Nov 18, 2008 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

I disagree

I think he’s actually pretty good. Good guy too.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

eh -

he’s not adding much, and is a bit too much of an optimist in the face of strong reason not to be optimistic.

by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2008 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

He's employed by the team

So you have to expect a little of that. Phil’s like that too.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

that's true

but he made a comment about mcgee starting that bugged me – ’it’s not who starts, it’s who finishes’
which i believe has been discussed a little bit here.

probably was just reacting to that

by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2008 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, I see

Yeah that’s pretty dumb.

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by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

just a few

stops would be nice – and fouls DO NOT COUNT AS STOPS ANTAWN!!!!

by little stevie colter on Nov 18, 2008 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

SONGAILA!

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 18, 2008 8:46 PM EST reply actions  

question...

…what exactly does the Heat have in terms of inside presence?

by Pryme on Nov 18, 2008 8:46 PM EST reply actions  

Joel Anthony, Marc Blount, and Jamaal Magloire

Be afraid, be very afraid.

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 18, 2008 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know

I figured Beasley was more of a post-up guy, but all he’s doing is hanging on the perimeter.

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by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Beasley seems to be

a more offensive minded Haslem. He shoots a lot of mid-range jumpers but can mix it up a little inside some.

by Matt K. on Nov 18, 2008 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

in other words

If we had a center (or center-like) player out there for the majority of the game, we could probably pound them to death from the inside.

by Pryme on Nov 18, 2008 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Bad shot

Come on Nick, we needed to work that down.

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by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 8:49 PM EST reply actions  

I think he did

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 18, 2008 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Just so everyone knows

Caron needs 1 board for a double-double.

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 18, 2008 8:50 PM EST reply actions  

Yes indeedy

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 18, 2008 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

This just makes Darius look bad

When he’s the biggest guy out there.

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by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 8:52 PM EST reply actions  

SONGAILA!

Sorry, I just like saying that.

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 18, 2008 8:54 PM EST reply actions  

The Heat are playing like

they used to before Pat Riley back-stabbed Van Gundy they made that season-changing trade for Shaq: just run the other team out of the gym.

by Pryme on Nov 18, 2008 8:54 PM EST reply actions  

Damn

That was really good defense.

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by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 8:55 PM EST reply actions  

Did I miss a season or something?

It almost looked like Blatche was going to take a three. He knows he’s not ’Sheed, right?

by Pryme on Nov 18, 2008 8:57 PM EST reply actions  

Blatche gets an A for effort on that one

And with an 11-point deficit that will get you not much.

"Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home." --- Daffy Duck

by George Templeton on Nov 18, 2008 9:03 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t think sliding across the floor should be a travel. If you can find a way to use that to your advantage, then go ahead.

by Aldo on Nov 18, 2008 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

There we go

Nice shot ’tawn.

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 18, 2008 9:03 PM EST reply actions  

Come on

Finish this one, please!

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by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 9:07 PM EST reply actions  

What's the record

for offensive fouls called in a game. I can’t imagine it’s that many.

by Jon L on Nov 18, 2008 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

Caron, demand the ball

Caron/JaVale high s&r, do it every time!

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by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 9:11 PM EST reply actions  

Niiiiiiiiiick

You’re better than that.

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 18, 2008 9:14 PM EST reply actions  

If we do indeed lose

I think I know the angle.

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by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 9:20 PM EST reply actions  

Man;

I really don’t want to read a “9-20 party” reference in the Post tomorrow…

by Pryme on Nov 18, 2008 9:25 PM EST reply actions  

in what way

rotation, offense, defense? Or all of the above?

by Pryme on Nov 18, 2008 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Allowing the Heat to go on that run.

by Jon L on Nov 18, 2008 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

well, as they say

defense starts runs, offense stops them.

by Pryme on Nov 18, 2008 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Right

Because we didn’t start the quarter with our best lineup. We waited to bring our best lineup in when we got 14 points down.

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by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Way too many open looks too.

The Heat only made 9-25 3s, but lots of those misses were wide open looks.

by Matt K. on Nov 18, 2008 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Minutes Watch

Butler played 42 minutes
Jamison played 40 minutes
Young and Dixon each played about 30 minutes
McGee played close to 28 minutes
Thomas played just under 10 minutes
Songaila and Brown were each in the 7:00-7:30 range.
McGuire played 4 minutes.

by Jon L on Nov 18, 2008 9:27 PM EST reply actions  

Stevenson played 25 minutes

though it seemed like a lot less.

by Jon L on Nov 18, 2008 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Excuse me everyone

I would like to publicly thank Antawn Jamison (and Caron….sorta) for backing up their words and playing like they wanted to win the game, but there is not much you can do when your supporting cast (Andray Blatche, Etan Thomas, Nick Young, and DeShawn Stevenson) decide to play like garbage.

No matter what the coaches, team captains, or fans say this team will not win on a regular basis unless everybody on the team takes it upon themselves to go out and play their best. Period.

by lj15 on Nov 18, 2008 9:41 PM EST reply actions  

My worry is

They are playing their best and they just aren’t good.

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by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Trust me

We have seen better out of most of those players. They dont suck THAT bad. Well maybe Etan does….but still.

by lj15 on Nov 18, 2008 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Watching the post-game press conference

EJ looks really, really frustrated. Some of it’s understandable, but some of it’s fixable.

by Jon L on Nov 18, 2008 9:43 PM EST reply actions  

Fixable meaning

don’t be so rigid. The 5 that start the game don’t have to be the 5 that start the second half.

by Jon L on Nov 18, 2008 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Stop sugercoating

I am loyal fan, loyal as in watch every preseason/season game buy tickets to good games and support them in defense on forums youtube and real life… no more sugercoating no more explanations no more reasons no more EXCUSES

THE WIZARDS FUCKING SUUUUCKK… THE WORST TEAM IN THE NBA MAYBE WASHINGTON FRANCHISE HISTORY. ABSOLUTLY HORRIBLE

Stop watching them, unless these players are paying you dont watch them, why spend 2 and half hours to be disappointed at HOME by garbage. This team should just be completely removed from the NBA. I unfortunately will watch more games be disappointed and break more random objects in my house. I used to not have hopes to make it to playoffs (no way in hell there going this year) but thought atleast they could compete with rival teams (cavs) BUT no way all there doing this season is proving there fucking garbage fuck the wizards and since thats my team then fuck the nba because theres no reason to watch these spoiled rotton egotistical assholes play…

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by Unxpekted on Nov 18, 2008 9:45 PM EST reply actions  

Stop cursing

And please calm down.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I watch because I want to.

I’m not going to stop supporting my favorite team because they’re struggling. True, it’s tough to watch, but all you can do is keep cheering and hoping that something changes.

A few more alley oops from McGee wouldn’t hurt either.

by Matt K. on Nov 18, 2008 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Stop supporting?

I am going to continue supporting them as well, but just realize they are the worst team in the NBA and be prepared to be laughed at when you tell people you like them. Also realize they are not making it to the playoff. A few alley oops wouldnt hurt? It would lead to turnovers which has hurt. You dont know how many times I have defended my team from Cav fans, I have almost fought someone over my team lol (I would never actually do that) and this is how im repaid.

Go Wizards

1-20 by the next month or two

by Unxpekted on Nov 18, 2008 10:02 PM EST reply actions  

Umm
just realize they are the worst team in the NBA and be prepared to be laughed at when you tell people you like them.

If this were true, how is it different from, oh I don’t know, practically every year from 1991 to 1996 and from 1999 to 2004?

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by Mike Prada on Nov 18, 2008 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Im going to disregard that comment above me.. If you were a true fan I think you would know the difference.. Agent 0 (minus curse o lez coming at us full force)

by Unxpekted on Nov 19, 2008 1:11 AM EST reply actions  

First of all, click reply

Second of all, make sense.

Third of all, what exactly are you saying? You said prepare to be laughed at for calling yourself a fan of this team, because they suck. I’m saying they’ve often sucked in the past and I’ve been a fan, so what difference does it make?

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 19, 2008 1:40 AM EST up reply actions  

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