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I'm madder than when we lost to New Jersey

So we've decided to have two recap threads for each game this season.  One to get stuff off our chest, and one for real analysis.

It's games like these that depress me.  We come close against a good team, but we do so by resorting to tiny-ball, riding our guys for too long instead of subbing in fresh legs and by playing no defense/grabbing no rebounds.  We start to think that, hey, maybe because we came close against Detroit, we're okay, when in reality we can't beat anybody in the league playing that style of ball.

Darius Songaila, he of the limited, slow, coaches pet variety, plays 27 minutes, while Andray Blatche and JaVale McGee, the supposed big men of the future who played a ton of minutes in the opener, play a combined four minutes, even as Detroit doubles us up on the glass.  Nick Young and Juan Dixon, a tandem that shouldn't see the light of day in theory, play unbelievably together, but it's only because the starting duo of AD and DeShawn play so badly.  Jamison and Butler play very well, but nobody else helps defensively to make their performance worth anything.  We get manhandled inside, and our lack of size means our opponents get a zillion clean looks at the rim.  We throw up our hands and say "we tried our hardest," even when we could have done more things to help us win.

It's depressing because all this together eliminates a lot of the positives I can take away from this game.  For example, Darius was big in his second-quarter stint.  He was active on defense, hedging like crazy, and was spacing the floor on offense.  Without his play in that quarter, we would have been blown out.  Yet the more he played, the more it became obvious that he was a liability.  Not because he was doing anything wrong, but just because he's limited.  He grabbed one rebound in 27 minutes tonight.  One rebound!  And that's the biggest guy we played for most of the game. Certainly JaVale, Dray or even Etan couldn't have done any worse than that.

Nick too was outstanding, but all his points came in vain because nobody could play defense or grab a rebound (him included).  We shot ourselves in the foot playing small, and our starting guards killed us because they played so poorly.  I should rephrase that; AD played okay, but didn't do much, while DeShawn played like dog poo.  Nick's points all went in vain because we couldn't get it done defensively, largely because we were not big.  I do have to say, however, that as much as it seems I'm killing Eddie, he deserves a lot of credit for sticking with Nick instead of going back to DeShawn.  I don't think I can overstate this point enough.

Even so, we can't beat the good teams playing like this.  There's a collective sense that, hey, we came close, so we should keep doing what we're doing.  That's depressing to think about and its exactly what worries me the most.  Without Gilbert to kill teams offensively and Haywood to deter penetration and eat space, we're going nowhere playing this mix this way.  I'd rather do something different and at least give the kids a shot instead of losing like a bunch of plucky overachievers.  They may screw up a little more than the vets, but they deserve a chance.  A chance they received and took advantage of in the first game even in defeat.

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I, too, am more upset than the Nets game,

Although I thought the Wiz would beat the Nets, but lose to the Pistons while beating the spread.

So maybe I shouldn’t be so upset? (I say to myself).

by Aldo on Nov 1, 2008 11:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it's definitely upsetting

but not surprising – think about it – they signed jamison and arenas to big new contracts – no real changes on the roster. the plan is obviously to give it another go with this team as is/was last year. so, they are going to ride the vets and hope to tread water until arenas gets back. that’s the management plan, and while i would love to see more blatche mcgee young mcguire (maybe) P.T., i just don’t think that is realistic given the way the team has prepared for this year. which is a damn shame.

by little stevie colter on Nov 2, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's not what I expected when those signings happened

I also expected a healthy Arenas and Haywood, but the fact that they re-signed Arenas and Jamison shouldn’t mean that Songaila plays more than Blatche/McGee.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 2, 2008 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just finished watching it on DVR

I feel relatively okay about the Songalia mess. Etan is looking like a black hole on both ends of the floor. Javale should see minutes against rookies, but against Sheed or McDyess? Kid wasn’t gonna get off the bench. So that leaves a choice between Darius and Blatche. Blatche is in my doghouse, thus I’m fine with the small ball.

The bright spot so far this season is the emergence of Nick Young. Yeah, it’s only two games so far, but that’s what I’m liking. He’s showing us a lot right now, and not taking a lot of bonehead shots. If he can give us ~15/night, then this team can make some real noise once Gilbert gets back.

If he can’t, sigh… I don’t want to start talking about the lottery after two games (particularly when we lost the first five last season), but we have got a BLACK HOLE at center. The team isn’t likely to outscore people without Gilbert, and they’re not about to outstop people without Brendan in the middle. I just don’t know where the wins are going to come from.

by sierradave on Nov 2, 2008 12:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm in agreement with SierraDave.....

I’m not so sure that playing JaVale McGee would’ve been a good idea against a veteran team like the Pistons.

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by Truth About It on Nov 2, 2008 9:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My kneejerk reaction

and I know I’ll disagree with myself tomorrow, but my gut feeling is that if McGee is on the active roster, he should play. The Wizards’ situation is too…sub-optimal right now to leave an asset like that on the bench. Even if he only plays four minutes, he brings energy, rebounding, and most of all blocked shots.

I don’t feel this way about guys like Brown or even Pecherov, but if they’re going to make McGee available, then put him in, coach. He’s developing. That means he needs to be in situations that help his development. EJ should find a way to get him active, get him confident, and get him contributing.

Yeah, the game was winnable, so EJ may have been reluctant to let that slip away due to rookie mistakes, but to me he’s talented enough and a good enough rebounder/blocker right now that he should never see a DNP-CD, not this year. I still think two games is too small of a sample to make decisions from, but I agree with Prada; what the Wizards did tonight will not work.

Yeah, I’ll probably disagree with this tomorrow.

by Jon L on Nov 2, 2008 12:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i agree

with you prada, personally, i’m just trying to look at it from eddie/managements point of view as to why they won’t try and rest CB and AJ at least a little, and why they are reluctant (tonight at least – small sample for sure) to give bigger minutes to talented but possibly erratic players.

by little stevie colter on Nov 2, 2008 12:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

mostly okay with EJ's decision

i previously advocated playing the young guys a lot and taking potential Ls, but after watching 4 minutes of blatche in the first half tonight, i really didn’t want to see any more of him in the second.

on the other hand, i would have liked to see mcgee against detroit’s bigs. what’s it gonna hurt to play him 5 minutes?

i wonder if etan didn’t hurt his ankle pretty bad stepping on that camera after getting rejected by wallace. (adding injury to insult)

songaila is not a starting, or closing center in the nba, so yeah, we’re in trouble. still, i don’t fault EJ for playing him down the stretch. i think etan was hurt (and wasn’t playing well either), and blatche didn’t deserve to play, and it’d be dumb to throw mcgee in during crunch time for his first minutes of the game.

team without an anchor…

by DarrellWalkerFan on Nov 2, 2008 12:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh

and none of this matters anyway as there’s no way we’d win against a team coached by darrell walker

by DarrellWalkerFan on Nov 2, 2008 12:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The reason why we lost

3 Reasons we Lost:

1. Poor officiating in the fourth quarter
2. That blonde haired player on the pistons/etan thomas
3. Too many outside shots during crunchtime (end of fourth quarter)

I have watched enough basketball to say that this line up was a killer defensively and offensively:

Juan Dixon, Antawn Jamison, Caron Butler, Nick Young

I really liked these guys together and there that reason we made that 22-4 run.

Anyways on to my points

1. Bad officiating: On piston side no foul wizards foul on piston side no foul wizards foul.. Im sorry but I think I counted 4 fouls in the fourth quarter alone that were not called and 2 simple calls a travel and pick violating that were ignored. These are things referees HAVE to watch for during crunchtime because the smallest mistake in officiating can turn the momentum completely over. On several occasions too many situations that have could have been claimed as clean play were deemed a foul in one way or another but ONLY on the wizard side. Regardless this is not an excuse or bias but I really did think it wasnt officiated well in the fourth quarter.

2. I dont have to say that Blonde headed guy gave the momentum and is the reason they won the game I saw it shift from his drive, agreesiveness, and three point shot. Thank God etan is doing well but he is not doing well for our team

3. Jamison, Dixon, Nick Young drove. I was proud of Deshawn for atleast driving twice, but even Caron looks scared to hit the paint. Sure there big guys but WE need to drive and draw fouls in these situations or at least get close shots. If we continue to settle for top of the key, or jump shots during crunchtime we are going to lose. I think I noted that there was nearly doube the amount of points in the paint than the wizards had in the paint but I could be wrong.

Another point I didnt put on my list is rebounds, we NEED to start rebounding… Without a good center this is going to be an issue…

Overall I dont think the Pistons really deserved the win and thats why it hurts.. In my eyes I did not see them outplay the wizards… Oh well atleast the redskins are doing well!

PS. I want a time machine where we can bring back Gilbert.. Hell keep the old one we’ll put both in the game, one with a healing knee one without the injury

by Unxpekted on Nov 2, 2008 12:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn't think the officiating was bad

We got into the penalty with like 8 minutes to go in the quarter.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 2, 2008 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All due respect

but you make no sense.

Perhaps after a night’s sleep you can elaborate.

by MR on Nov 2, 2008 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Random Thoughts:

1. Is Andray trying to do too much? I think he’s really feeling the pressure so to speak from the vets to really start being consistent and contribute nightly to the team. Maybe he’s pressing? His first half stint left so much more to be desired.

2. Nick Young: 29 minutes, 23 points, 2 reb, 2 assists, 1 steal. Not too shabby. Kudos to Eddie for riding the hot hand.

3. Our starters played horribly together for the second game in a row. Not good.

4. Juan the facilitator? Paired with Nick Young the game just felt right. I can’t describe it other than a feeling, but it looked like Wizards basketball.

5. I thought AD played to about even. His first stint was horrible. Uninspired, the team staggered offensively, etc. etc. The second unit brought the intensity and in AD’s second stint he kept the intensity level from dropping.

6. I was sad there was no McGee sighting! Maybe next game.

"My swag was phenomenal!"

by Wizards on Nov 2, 2008 6:14 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Eddie Jordan has a history of going who is playing well.

And I can’t blame him for that.

Nick Young was playing great….so DeShawn was absent down the stretch.

Darius Songaila was one of the only Wizards playing with hustle and aggression….how can you not reward that with time on the court?

I certainly know that Songaila would not have allowed Kwame Brown to drive it right down the lane from the top of the arc on him….TWICE!

If Andray Blatche doesn’t earn it, I have no problem with him sitting on the bench and taking the good and the bad of Darius Songaila.

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by Truth About It on Nov 2, 2008 9:33 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Because Darius grabbed all of one rebound! And because Darius wasn’t plugging the lane while Detroit dropped 121 on us in a slow-paced game. Because Darius made a couple bone-headed plays, like when he tried to take it in on Sheed late in a close game.

17 minutes is enough reward time for Darius. 9 minutes (five more than Dray got) is enough to make the point that the guy sucked.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 2, 2008 10:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well....

Yea, I figured he’d be criticized for that shot against Rasheed…but he got position right under the hoop….I mean, D-Song ain’t no P….if he’s an NBA player and gets that low in the post, he supposed to try and score. ….But I don’t think points there would’ve mattered much.

I know that you really don’t like Songaila, but you said this after the Nets game:

His [Eddie Jordan’s] decision to play Andray Blatche down the stretch probably hurt us, and based on the way the dude was playing, it probably wasn’t a good idea.

So, what makes you think with the way Blatche was letting Kwame Brown, of all people, get to the hoop, that he would’ve been good down the stretch against a much better Pistons team last night?

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by Truth About It on Nov 2, 2008 11:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe not down the stretch

but part of the reason Songaila missed that shot, I think, was because his legs were spent by that point (he came up short from about four feet from the basket). If Blatche or McGee had spelled him for even five minutes, say at the beginning of the 4th, Songaila could’ve come back in at the end and wouldn’t’ve been as worn out.

by Jon L on Nov 2, 2008 11:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You're simplifying my poisition

It’s not that I don’t like Songaila. He was huge tonight, and like I mentioned in the post, without his second-quarter stint, we would have been smoked. But instead of playing him 27 minutes, where his deficiencies start to become more evident (not to mention completely wearing him out), play him 15, play Blatche five more minutes (bringing him to…9…so he still gets the message), play Etan five more minutes and give McGee a chance to see if he’ll make a difference. Basically, go offense-defense down the stretch as much as possible, putting Dray/McGee/Etan in for defense and Darius for offense.

You can reward Darius’ play without putting him in for 27 flippin minutes. Last night, Detroit shot 57% eFG%, grabbed nearly half of their available misses and had an offensive rating of 127.2. You think playing Songaila at center for 27 minutes (again, 10-15 minutes as a change of pace, fine, but 27 minutes?) is going to be the answer to combat Detroit’s offensive explosion? Trying to outscore them isn’t going to get it done.

At least Darius isn’t stealing Haywood’s minutes. Imagine how mad that’d make me.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 2, 2008 11:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yea, I see your point

…maybe it’s just that Jordan expects/assumes that Songaila is in shape enough to play that amount of minutes….and I’m not in the position to testify if he’s wrong or right on that.

Maybe a fatigued Songaila is a better option than a lazy Blatche.

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by Truth About It on Nov 2, 2008 11:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take the "lazy" Blatche

Though I think a better word is “ineffective.” He’s not lazy, just way out of control.

Besides, Blatche isn’t the only alternative.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 2, 2008 11:23 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

About DeShawn
I should rephrase that; AD played okay, but didn’t do much, while DeShawn played like dog poo.

I can see that DeShawn is going to be the scapegoat this season, as this is the second straight game you’ve thrown him under the bus, at least with your initial reaction. He may deserve this designation in many games this season, but I don’t think he does for these past two. Yes, he looked pretty bad offensively in the first quarter and a half, after missing his first two 3-pointers. After that, however, he adjusted his game and made 4 of his final 6 shots, including two very nice drives for layups against tough defense. As with last game, I didn’t feel he did too much. Only 8 Wizards possessions ended with a DeShawn shot or turnover, and he had 8 points. As long as he keeps to that ratio and doesn’t shoot too much, I have no problem with his offense.

Defensively, I am starting to see your point. He did have trouble fighting through screens, and that resulted in more than a couple of wide-open shots for Rip Hamilton. Over the course of the season, though, I don’t expect DeShawn to be a liability on defense. He has never been a bad defender and I think he’ll make the necessary adjustments on that end of the floor to redeem himself.

The reason I think he gets blamed is because of the position Eddie puts him in due to Eddie’s starting lineup. Think about it – Etan, AJ, Tough Juice, DeShawn, and AD. Only AJ and Caron can consistently create any offense. Etan is only effective on wide-open dunks and offensive rebounds. AD offers nothing on offense other than the ability to pass the ball to AJ or Caron. So when the defense neutralizes our two All-Stars, it’s DeShawn who has to figure something out and try to create his own shot. When he fails, everyone blames him. They should be blaming Eddie.

DeShawn is at his best when he is no higher than the fourth scoring option on the floor. That leaves him with very favorable match-ups and wide-open looks from behind the arc. Last season, he was behind AJ, Caron, and Brendan, and many times he excelled. Two seasons ago, he was behind Gil, AJ, and Caron, and he also excelled. But this season, he is at his worst when teamed with AD in the backcourt. Your solution is to bench him and keep AD. The problem I have with this is that would take away a legitimate 3-point threat on the court, something that I feel will hurt the team a lot more.

My solution is to bench AD and let Nick Young take over at the point. Yeah, he’s not a traditional point, but neither is Gilbert. Besides, you don’t need a traditional point guard in the Princeton. With a lineup of Etan, AJ, Caron, DeShawn, and NY, you’d get 4 legitimate scoring threats and 3 guys who can create their own shots on a consistent basis. This would allow DeShawn to concentrate on what he does best: defense and spot-up 3-point shooting.

Admittedly, your alternative of replacing DeShawn with Young would also work better than the current starting lineup. But I don’t think that would be better than my idea, and, quite frankly, I just don’t see the benefit of AD starting anymore. He’s not that good on defense (no better than DeShawn, IMO), he can create his own shot only rarely (even less than DeShawn, IMO), and he can’t take a kick-out pass and hit a three. He’ll always get you 5 to 10 assists a night, but with two All-Star forwards, I would expect most guards with regular minutes to give close to that contribution on most nights. Finally, AD is way past his prime, which would indicate that he will only get worse from this point forward. DeShawn is still young, and at least theoretically, could still improve.

I sense something else going on, though. I think some (if not many) in this forum are still bitter about the whole DeShawn-LeBron feud from last season, and still place a good piece of blame on DeShawn for the Wizards poor play in that series. It’s for this reason that I think many of you are just waiting for DeShawn to screw up so that it will validate your negative feelings towards him.

I say judge him by his performance. When someone says someone played like dog poo, then I would expect his efficiency to be pretty bad. But when that player is more efficient than Caron Butler, I don’t think that player deserves any ire.

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by cuppettcj on Nov 2, 2008 1:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It's not his offense

that worries me. He defense has been terrible. Carter and Hayes were able to do basically whatever they wanted in the first game, and here are Rip Hamilton’s numbers when Stevenson was in the game:

1st quarter: 3-5 FG, 0-1 3pt, 2 reb, 1 ast, 1 to, +17
3rd quarter: 5-9 FG, 0-1 3pt, 2-2 FT, 3 reb, +6

And when Stevenson wasn’t on the floor:

2nd quarter: 0-3 FG, 0-1 3pt, 2-2 FT, 1 ast, -13 (there was some slight overlap between them, but only a few minutes)
4th quarter: 1-4 FG, 2-2 FT, 1 reb, 2 ast, +3

Even more than being a shooter, Stevenson is on the floor for his lock-down defense. And for whatever reason, it hasn’t been there thus far.

by Jon L on Nov 2, 2008 1:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

DeShawn’s D has been troubling. But it has always been the best part of his game, and I just find it hard to believe that his poor play on that end of the court will continue. To me, at this point, his poor defense is just an aberration. I would give him the benefit of the doubt in this area for at least a few more games.

What bothers me more is how ineffective AD has gotten on offense. He looks a step slower than last season, and without his quick drives, he’s pretty worthless. He is 33, so maybe his age is starting to catch up with him.

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by cuppettcj on Nov 2, 2008 1:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Right, exactly

He’s fine offensively, but Nick is better right now. DeShawn’s supposed advantage is his defense, and he’s been awful in that regard.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 2, 2008 2:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey now
Your solution is to bench him and keep AD. The problem I have with this is that would take away a legitimate 3-point threat on the court, something that I feel will hurt the team a lot more.

Never said such thing. All I said was that Eddie made the right decision to ride Nick when Nick was playing so well instead of sitting him and playing DeShawn. I think a Nick/DeShawn backcourt can work, but not last night, not when DeShawn was so bad defensively and Nick was shooting a lot. If Nick cracks the starting lineup, I’d like to see Nick/DeShawn play together a lot.

And I certainly don’t blame DeShawn for the Cleveland series. You were active here, so I feel no need to link to all the posts I made blasting people for making such a big deal out of the DeShawn-LeBron feud. Frankly, I don’t see that among other people here either.

When someone who is known for his defense lets Rip Hamilton kill us, he’s playing like dog poo. Playing like that implies he could play better and isn’t. AD, on the other hand, isn’t going to play too much better because of his age. That doesn’t mean DeShawn is dog poo, and I don’t want him out of the starting lineup, but it does mean he needs to pick it up.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 2, 2008 3:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

OK

I see where you’re coming from more clearly. I’m just not ready to believe that DeShawn is washed up on defense. At least not yet. Keep in mind, Rip is one of the best in the league at getting open off of screens, so I really don’t think it’s fair to pick on DeShawn for not being able to do what most guards in the league couldn’t do. But I agree with you that he needs to make some adjustments and improve his play in this area. A few more games with defense as bad as the last two, and even I won’t be able to defend him.

I didn’t mean to include you when referring to the LeBron feud, and I should have explicitly excluded you. If you want me to name names, Truth is the first one that comes to mind, and he even admitted in his game blogs during the playoffs last season that he pissed about it. Others followed his lead, if I remember correctly, and were quick to make DeShawn the scapegoat. You were one of the cooler heads in that regard.

As for AD, there was no guarantee that he would start showing his age this season, and I don’t think Eddie thought that he would when left him as the starter for this season. If this is the best that AD now has to offer, then the time to bench him is now. I think Nick Young deserves to be a starter, no question. I just think that DeShawn is better than AD for the other starting guard spot, assuming he corrects his defense. When Gilbert comes back, then reevaluate Nick vs. DeShawn.

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by cuppettcj on Nov 2, 2008 3:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Immaturity

That’s fair. I apologize for getting kind of defensive about it. I just was surprised to read that.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 2, 2008 3:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

For The Record

Sure I was pissed off about DeShawn in last year’s playoffs…..but he’s not the reason we lost, and I’m not a 12-year old girl, I don’t hold grudges. I have no need to validate myself in hoping he will fail so that my past opinions of specific instances ring true. If I came across that way, my bad. DeShawn is on the team I love and thus I want him to do well.

On to DeShawn starting or sitting…..to be honest, I haven’t particularly had a problem with his play these first two games. He’s made some mistakes, but so has everyone. And I completely agree with you about him being ‘left on an island’ on the defensive end.

My simple wonder when it comes to the present day, is that would Nick Young starting help this team? Does Eddie like his scoring better coming off the bench? Would DeShawn be gracious in accepting his new assignment?

A bunch of questions, a couple of ‘ifs’, and a few ‘buts….’ — none of us have the exact answer to these questions at this point, and it’s not our decision to make, rather it’s our duty to speculate on the internets.

So overall, I don’t hold anything against DeShawn…..until the next time he screws up (just kidding…kinda), and I’d definitely rather have the “Should we start Nick Young?” dialogue than the “What’s wrong with Nick Young?” conversation.

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by Truth About It on Nov 2, 2008 4:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Alright, I Apologize

I did not mean my comments about the DeShawn/LeBron feud to be some sort of McCarthy-style accusation, and I apologize to any for taking it that way. I meant it as a subconscious perception thing, and not as a deliberate, 12 year old girl grudge thing. After rereading my post above, I realize that that is not how my words read and I should have chosen my words more carefully.

Let me try to explain what I really meant. For many, including myself, the loss to Cleveland last season is still fresh in our minds, so I figured there might be some lingering resentment towards DeShawn in the back of people’s minds that was clouding their current judgment. These feelings can be like prejudices, where evidence that supports them is subconsciously accepted as validation, while evidence against them is subconsciously forgotten or ignored.

This happens to players other than DeShawn. For example, David Friedman over at 20 Second Timeout has it in his head that Gilbert is overrated. So when the Wizards finish the season with less than 45 wins with him mostly healthy, he believes his perceptions are validated and he remembers this, but he forgets that they were the best team in the Eastern Conference before Jamison got injured. Or when the Wizards finish with close to 45 wins with him mostly injured, he believes his perceptions are validated and he remembers this, but he forgets that most of the wins before Gilbert came back were due to an easy part of the schedule. Poor shooting percentages register in his mind, true shooting percentages are discarded. And so on and so forth.

It’s not that Mr. Friedman thinks to himself, “Gosh, I really don’t like that Gilbert Arenas guy’s game, so I hope his team does better without him so I can say he is overrated.” But in his mind, he processes the information about him with an indeliberate bias.

I knew that many were a bit teed off, to say the least, about DeShawn last season after the whole “LeBron is overrated” episode. Before that, DeShawn was getting a lot of respect on this blog, especially after a fantastic performance in New Orleans. Since then, however, it just seems that he is one of the first to get blamed when things go wrong. If I’m incorrect in associating this to the LeBron thing, then again I apologize.

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by cuppettcj on Nov 2, 2008 7:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No worries....

I just wanted to dispel the perception from my point of view.

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by Truth About It on Nov 2, 2008 9:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And to follow up on AD to the bench

I would be staunchly against Nick Young starting at the point.

For one, we need that kid to worry about scoring and scoring only.

But….assuming that DeShawn would be bringing the ball up the court in your scenario…..I think that other teams would pressure us more (detrimental to the offense) and that I’d rather have DeShawn expending energy on stopping the other team’s best guard.

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by Truth About It on Nov 2, 2008 4:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I Obviously Disagree

Nick has handled the ball exceptionally well so far this season, and there were many times that he brought the ball up. His turnover percentage is lower than AD’s. I don’t think that he’d be a liability in this regard. I’m sure Eddie has the team practice bringing the ball up against the press, and I think Young is more than capable of handling this role.

Once he gets the ball past half-court, he’s just another guard in the Princeton. Even if the Wizards didn’t run the Princeton, I think he has shown himself to be much better at penetrating and drawing the defense to himself. I think he would be perfect for an inside-out game. If the shot is there, take it. If not, kick it out to a perimeter guy for an open three. AD can’t penetrate like he used to, and defenses don’t respect his pull-up ability, so he can’t create offensive opportunities that well anymore. He’s still a decent backup, but I think it’s time for Eddie to look towards the future. Nick Young could very well be the next Gilbert Arenas in training.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Nov 2, 2008 8:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Also

Nick Young’s assist percentage is 21.7, only 1.9 lower than AD’s. He has been able to find the open man when he’s needed to.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Nov 2, 2008 8:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Let's hope that keeps up for longer than a two-game sample

That’s probably my biggest reason for not making any changes. Doing something after two games seems a bit reactionary.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 2, 2008 8:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You're exactly right...

we should all keep that in mind.

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by Truth About It on Nov 2, 2008 9:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed on Young/Stevenson

Young isn’t simply scoring well, he is making great decisions. Sure, sometimes he has been forcing his shot. Very rarely have I said, WTF nick. He has been a huge surprise this season. And if he continues to play like this, and Gil comes back like Gil, we could be very dangerous. I would sit Stevenson then.

by zeke5123 on Nov 2, 2008 3:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm disappointed

Folks here rail on Jordan for his erratic substitutions. Folks get down on him for yanking Haywood all the time. Well there is some pretty erratic talk going on about benching guys after just two games. There is talk about starting a guy that almost everyone here was down on just a few weeks ago, some folks even suggested cutting the guy. I mean, let’s get a grip. Are we little girly Lakers fans or what? Let’s pull ourselves together. Consistency and stability are at premium, especially with so many unavoidable changes due to injury. Let’s not throw away things that have worked in the past just because of a couple of bad losses.

by MR on Nov 2, 2008 8:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I know it's a small sample size...

But I have a co-worker who is a Lakers fan….he’s pretty girly. It’s an LA thing.

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by Truth About It on Nov 2, 2008 9:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's what happens

when your team wins too much. You don’t develop toughness. Maybe that’s why they never saw the value of Butler.

by MR on Nov 3, 2008 6:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

For the Record

I know you weren’t specifically talking about me (at least I hope you weren’t), but I still want to point out that I have never, to my knowledge, been down on Nick Young. Of all of our young players, he appears to me to have the most potential. Perhaps I’m jumping the gun just a little bit when I advocate starting him ahead of AD so early in the season, but let’s face it – the worst stretches for the Wizards these past two games were when AD and DeShawn were manning the backcourt. If this continues much longer, then I don’t think it is to our benefit to have Eddie sticking with these two just because of “consistency and stability”. Quite frankly, I’ve hated this whole “stay the course” mentality from the get-go. I advocated big changes early in the offseason, and now that we’re 0 and 2, I would rather see changes sooner rather than later.

"It's OK for the Bullets to trade baskets, as long as they can score on their end." -- Words of wisdom from Phil Chenier

by cuppettcj on Nov 3, 2008 9:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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