Community Projection/Discussion: Gilbert Arenas
Editor's Note: For the next eight days, we're going to discuss and predict each individual player's production this year. This includes simpleton stats (aka per-game numbers) and the advanced ones (regular readers know these). Feel free to predict as many or as few categories as you like.
But even though I'm a big advanced stats guy, we all know hoops is more than just numbers. So, in addition to predicting numbers, use this space to discuss what you expect qualitatively from everyone this year. What do they need to do to improve? What do you want to see from them? How likely do you think that happens? What does each player need to do to help this team overachieve?
We start at the beginning of the alphabet and Gilbert Arenas.
- 13 games
- 32.7 minutes per game
- 19.4 points per game (21.3 pts/36 minutes)
- 3.9 rebounds per game (4.3/36)
- 5.1 assists per game (5.6/36)
- 6 3pt attempts per game, 7.4 free throw attempts per game
- 39.8 FG%, 28.2 3PT%, 77.1 FT%
- 45.4 eFG%, 52.9 TS% (yuck)
- 18.2 PER
- 27.4 Ast%
- 17.1 TO% (highest since 03/04 by a wide margin)
- 31.1 Usg% (percentage of possessions ended, either with shot, TO or free throw, when on the floor)
First and foremost, I'd like to see Gilbert Arenas fully healthy. I think that's a given.
Assuming he is, the most important thing is that Arenas learn better how to operate a slower-paced team. That is not the same thing as saying I want Arenas to be a "purer point guard" -- for what it's worth, his career turnover percentage numbers are outstanding and his assist percentages are not awful by any means. What it does mean, though, is that I want Arenas to curb his tendency to shoot long jumpers early in the shot clock. The whole "dribble downcourt, pound it five times to set up a contested 19-footer" routine? Don't do it unless it's at the end of the shot clock, when we need to put it up. Once or twice, when the halfcourt offense is stalling? Fine. But only once or twice. If it works once, that doesn't mean it's the right play. That alone will not only slow the Wizards down to a pace they were able to manage last year, but it'll also lower Arenas' usage rate, another goal he should set for himself.
At the same time, I want to see Arenas pushing the ball and looking for the fast break off opponents' misses. We lost that dimension of our offense went he went out and we need it back. Arenas is a great finisher and a better passer than he is given credit for being. That'll make life easier for Caron Butler, because he'll get driving lanes to finish and draw fouls, and Antawn Jamison, because he'll get more open threes in transition.
Finally, I want to see Arenas play better defense. Phil Chenier says it all the time, but there's no reason he can't be a very good defender. I want him to talk more, I want him to gamble less and I want him to prevent penetration. I don't expect him to be a lockdown defender, but he needs to at least be competent.
What I don't want is for Arenas to slow his game down to a crawl and hang on the perimeter mostly. I want him to isolate his defender, I want him to drive and create all the free throw opportunities he does. If his drive doesn't work, though, I don't want to see him forcing a shot. Pull it back out, run your second options and let Caron be the facilitator.
Personal predictions:
- Arenas returns in early- to mid-January, so 50 games at around 37 minutes per game
- His usage rate drops to 29.7 or so
- His scoring average drops to 23.8
- For assists, let's say 6.2
- He shoots 43 percent from the field, but his eFG% is 51% and his TS% is 56.2.
- His turnover rate goes down to 11.2
- His PER is 22.4
- He averages 6.8 threes a game and 7.5 free throws a game
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the key...
to this very sound analysis is at the end when you discuss Gil’s ability to drive to the hoop in isolation. Coming off his knee problems, the ability to blow by people may not be what it was in the past, at least the first month back (for 111 million, we pray not much longer than that). Will Gil realize this and run those second options? I wonder only because I worry about the extent the showman part of his persona outshines the team player part.
by mlarroca on Oct 22, 2008 10:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm Curious
Arenas returns in early- to mid-January, so 50 games at around 37 minutes per game
Why do you assume that it will take Gilbert until January to come back? Didn’t he estimate that he can return by December? What’s the latest news on his return timeframe?
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by cuppettcj on Oct 22, 2008 10:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The first estimate was a month....
then it was something like two….
….and then maybe Gilbert said he was going to be out through December
…..and then Ernie Grunfeld was mum on the time-table word.
Between being cautious and getting back into shape, and making extra, extra sure the knee is okay…..I’d predict January too.
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by Truth About It on Oct 22, 2008 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What Truth said
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Oct 22, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Explosive?
I predict we won’t see the explosive, aggressive, driving and slashing Arenas until next year.
I think we’ll see more of what we saw last year for the first 8 games, and later in the Playoffs….. Arenas being more of a facilitator… running the Offense…. and shooting open 3’s. But even that, watered-down version of Arenas could bring a much needed boost to this Wizards team…
Like Pradamaster, I think we’ll see his Turn Overs down…. True shooting percentage up (I say as high as 58% because he’ll be shooting more than seven (7) 3-pointers per game)…. I also think he’ll average more assists than in previous years… But , the area that I think he’ll be able to help the most is in pushing the ball up the court…
We see that Dee Brown can push the ball, but he has not shown the ability to find teammates on the break or finish at the rim… (I think Dee can eventually learn that skill, but let’s remember, he’s still really young). – Arenas can do that – find guys on the break , and weave his way to the rim.
I also think that Butler’s game will get a boost from having Arenas on the court; as he’s a tremendous finisher on the break. Last year, we didn’t see much of Butler on the break, just because of our pace…. But he’s one of the best finishers in the League. So, add a couple or three points per game to Butler’s average, once Arenas returns.
by Rook6980 on Oct 22, 2008 12:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I forgot to mention
One thing I’d like to see is Arenas working more off Caron rather than it only being vice versa. I’d like to see Arenas run through backpicks with Caron controlling the ball, or I’d like to see Arenas take dribble hand-offs from Caron to free his path to the basket.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Oct 22, 2008 12:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like
Caron is so NICE when he facilitates. He’s not quite a point-forward but he has great passing instincts. Arenas could definitely benefit.
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by Icantfeelmyface on Oct 23, 2008 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but...
…to me, he always seems so passive when Gil’s in the game. I think that’s the biggest thing that needs to happen on this team – Caron asserting himself more and Gil letting him do his thing.
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by mamemimo on Oct 23, 2008 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think a lot of that is on Butler
There’s no reason he should be passive with Gilbert in the game. Demand the ball from him.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Oct 23, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
# He averages 6.8 threes a game and 7.5 free throws a game
thats a lot, especially for someone just coming off an injury. i dont wanna see him come back and immediately dominate the offense like. i dont think he could handle that big a load coming off a knee injury.
by joshp on Oct 22, 2008 12:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's not so far from his career averages
He was at 7.1 and 7.4 respectively in 06/07.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Oct 22, 2008 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
06/07
was a near-full season. this will not be.
by joshp on Oct 22, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
These aren’t totals, they’re averages.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Oct 23, 2008 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree - to a point
I think his free throws will be down… again, because I think he’ll be doing less driving to the basket and more facilitating the Offense.
But that leaves only fast breaks, and outside shooting for his point production…. and I think he’ll take more 3’s – with his True Shooting percentage up close to 60% – … He is, after all, the best and most consistent proven 3-point shooter on the team. As Caron slashes to the hole, or when Antawn posts up, Arenas can hang around, 5 feet behind the 3-point line.
And, shooting 3-pointers will not put that big a “load” on Arenas.
I think the one thing everyone is forgetting about with Arenas is Defense… with that knee, will he have the lateral quickness to stay in front of his man? AND, even if his knee allows it, will Arenas make the commitment needed to play at least passable Defense?
Overall, even if his Defense is porous when he returns, the positives (pushing the fast break, 3-point shooting, Assists, etc…) will be a plus for the team.
by Rook6980 on Oct 22, 2008 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt it goes anywhere near 60%
He’s only once had a TS% above 57. Very, very few perimeter players approach 60.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Oct 22, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
except
I just did the calculations – I was assuming he would get to the line about 6 times per game, and put up about 19 shots per game (Fewer 2point shots but more 3 pointers, about 1 more per game than he averages in a full year)…
He’d have to shoot 50% from 2point and more than 44% from 3 to get to 60% TS….. so I’ll revise my estimate to 56 TS% (which is more reasonable if he’s taking, and making more threes)
by Rook6980 on Oct 22, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wild guesses
I’m going to say that once Gilbert comes back in mid-January he’ll score around 22.7 a game (shooting 42%, give or take), with 6.8 assists and 5.2 rebounds.
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by JakeTheSnake on Oct 22, 2008 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing
that he’s not coming back till he’s ready this time. No more half-Zero. So I wouldn’t bet on a guy that just hangs around the 3-pt line.
by MR on Oct 22, 2008 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Trust me
I’ve had knee surgery (total reconstruction) – the biggest thing is NOT whether the knee is sound…. but rather trusting that the knee is sound.
Until he cuts hard on that knee, stops on a dime, pivots hard, bangs knees with someone, turns the knee without pain…. and does that over and over again – he won’t have the confidence to trust the knee and do the things he did before. That only comes with time…….
We won’t see the explosive, hard to the rack, accept the contact, finish at the rim Arenas until next year.
by Rook6980 on Oct 22, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will the explosiveness be there?
I still remember the first time I watched Gilbert play at home… I was in from Europe and eager for a look. So I was sitting there in section 100 with my son and oh about 10 minutes into the game Gilbert took a pass around 20 feet from the basket to the left of the key. He put the ball on the court sort of lazily once, and then all of a sudden he was gone, leaving his defender flatfooted and taking it to the hoop for a lay-in… My comment to my son was simply, “that is lightning in a bottle”… That capability probably won’t be there when he first comes back, but I hope and pray that it returns sooner than later because it is what sets Gilbert apart as an offensive player. It is a remarkable gift and it makes the other facets if his game that much more dangerous.
When people were grousing about his contract this summer, all I could think (and say in postings) is that we will not soon if ever see his like again. Hope you are back soon, Gilbert!
by khrabb on Oct 22, 2008 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is too painful for me right now
I keep thinking about last year, and the year before…. I really just want to see Arenas playing with confidence. I don’t care about projections right now. He’s such a gifted player that anything he can contribute will help.
Crosses fingers
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by Icantfeelmyface on Oct 23, 2008 11:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we might have to table plans for "Black Presidents" until 2012
However, some players still refuse to get excited about the election. “People get sour-faced when you talk about politics and voting,” said Wizards guard Gilbert Arenas, adding that he doesn’t plan to vote.
Being a co-President probably would’ve been a distraction anyways.
by Aldo on Oct 23, 2008 12:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Insightful comments from Gil
On politicians: “They say whatever they need to say to get in office.”
Wow – really?
I guess not everyone says what they’re thinking in the moment, regardless of the consequences.
by Rook6980 on Oct 23, 2008 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bleh
Gilbert’s political views are pretty shameful, but I’d rather not start down this path because it’s a sports blog that’s politics-neutral.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on Oct 23, 2008 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, Arenas would rather die than vote....
http://www.truthaboutit.net/2008/08/gilbert-arenas-would-rather-die-than.html
Predictions:
He’s back before Christmas.
He gets more than 7.4 dimes per game.
He struggles with his FG% in the early going (sub 40% through January)…but he climbs out the hole as the months continue.
I’m thinking we will see a PER around 22.1
Minutes per game will go no higher than 36.
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by Truth About It on Oct 23, 2008 3:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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