Pie in the sky scenarios: Shawn Marion
My snarky comment aside, point taken on perhaps toning down the 15th roster spot madness. I think I've made my position clear, though it does seem like discussion has been rabid. As a reminder, though, if you're tired of one discussion and want to see another, write a FanPost about it. That's the beauty of the SB Nation platform.
Anyway, to go in a completely different direction, let's talk about fantasy trades! (Scott Jackson would be very angry).
The only reason I bring this up is because of this recent Peninsula is Mightier post. Five potential Shawn Marion trades were proposed, with the last one involving our Wizards.
Marion to Washington for Antonio Daniels, Etan Thomas and Darius Songaila.
Daniels would be a great fit for the Heat, and the other two guys are tall.
That trade sounds eerily similar to one I proposed over two months ago, with the only caveats being that mine was to be a sign-and-trade in the 2009 offseason and was contingent on everyone staying healthy this year. Truthfully, I like this one better because we're turning three deadweight contracts into someone who might fit us like a glue. Marion's awesome because he's such a versatile defender, can rebound like crazy and is used to playing in a motion-type offense. If we could somehow add him, get him signed to a reasonable contract and hope he doesn't decline as he gets older, it'd make us so much better. I'd move Caron to the 2, Stevenson to the bench and have Marion cover for Jamison's deficiencies. Perfect!
Of course, there are tons of issues too. One is Marion's large salary. Another is Marion's moodiness -- I think he's a great role player, but he's clearly the fourth offensive option here and he might not like that. Another is Marion's age and declining production since leaving Steve Nash. Finally, after all our injuries, are we ready to trade away a lot of depth? Our young guys would have to take a step forward, methinks.
Still, this is exactly the type of deal Ernie should be considering with his 2010 expiring contracts. Marion's not a superstar, but he's a potential impact player that could give us a lot of what we don't have, provided he's motivated and not whining.
So to those around, would you want Shawn Marion? What sweetners would you throw in to make it happen? Does this not tickle your fancy a little?
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Two concerns with the trade
- That trade leaves us with Blatche and McGee as the only two players who could play center. That could be good, or it could be very, very, very bad.
- Marion might get jealous of the flying pie.
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by JakeTheSnake on
Oct 16, 2008 2:50 PM EDT
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This was also my first thought.
If Haywood hadn’t gone down, then maybe. But as the roster stand now, Blatche would have to be the starting center, and losing Songaila means there’d be even less front-court depth. Plus, it would mean that Dee Brown would be the starting PG for the first few months, which also would be very, very bad.
by Jon L on
Oct 16, 2008 3:26 PM EDT
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Although
this would open up roster spots for both DerMarr Johnson and Juan Dixon. Everybody wins?
by Jon L on
Oct 16, 2008 3:30 PM EDT
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Oh, I wouldn't do it now
I’d wait and see how Haywood responds to his injury, then do a sign-and-trade in 2009, if anything.
The Haywood injury is just so devastating.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on
Oct 16, 2008 3:30 PM EDT
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could you picture yourself saying that 3 seasons ago?
honestly now…
by five by five on
Oct 17, 2008 8:02 AM EDT
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Probably
To be honest. Remember, I’ve been on the Haywood is awesome bandwagon for years.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
by Mike Prada on
Oct 17, 2008 10:21 AM EDT
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scrap the season
If, as GM, I were looking to the 2009-2010 season as the Championship push….. and didn’t care about the 2008-2009 season……..
This would be a very very good trade…
With Gilbert Arenas at full speed in 2009… Haywood back…. McGee (who I think can play PF) with a full year under his belt, the youngsters a year older…..slide Jamison to the bench…… Blatche established…… Caron at Shooting Guard…..
Starters: Arenas, Butler, Marion, Blatche, Haywood
Reserves: Dee Brown (or insert draft pick here…. Ricky Rubio, anyone?), Stevenson, McGuire, Jamison, McGee
That team would have tremendous firepower on the 1st team… and would be pretty good defensively too. Then you bring in the 2nd team with Stevenson and Jamison….. that would be a pretty solid group Offensively… and again Defense wouldn’t be too bad with DSteve McGuire and McGee holding the fort.
But – I still like your Joe Johnson trade better… Pradamaster…
by Rook6980 on
Oct 16, 2008 9:04 PM EDT
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Yea, but the door is back open.....
For PJR!!!! Puerto Rican Hero!!!!
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by Truth About It on
Oct 16, 2008 9:36 PM EDT
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i don't think butler can play the 2
that pretty much ends the speculation for me.
good to see that other teams are interested in a trifecta of expiring contracts from us though. that’s reassuring.
by DarrellWalkerFan on
Oct 16, 2008 2:56 PM EDT
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if only
haywood wasnt hurt, this would be sweet. personally, id play marion at the 4 and move jamison to the bench. we know he can be comfortable there and god knows he could use a little less wear and tear on the knees
by joshp on
Oct 16, 2008 3:32 PM EDT
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This scenario makes no sense at the moment
given our injury situation.
I also agree that Butler is a much better SF than SG, I wouldn’t make that move. In addition I wouldn’t move AJ to the bench.
So I guess this would be a “no thanks” for me.
by MR on
Oct 16, 2008 3:47 PM EDT
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Then again....
AJ is just about the only guy in the NBA who would be more than willing to come off the bench.
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by Truth About It on
Oct 16, 2008 9:37 PM EDT
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I'm not so sure about that.
Everyone assume Antawn can play off the bench because he did in Dallas. But I think he was pretty unhappy there because of that. Jamison is happier here because the organization has shown so much trust in him. And Antawn has responded by becoming a leader. Its hard to tell one of your undisputed leaders to come off the bench.
by Aldo on
Oct 16, 2008 9:47 PM EDT
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I would politely disagree....
…because that would not be within the character of the Antawn Jamison that I know, but have never met in my life.
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by Truth About It on
Oct 17, 2008 3:13 PM EDT
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I'd make...
that trade in a heartbeat. Put Gil, Stevenson, Butler, Blatche and Marion on the floor, Jamison off the bench with serious minutes and run all night. Wiz average 120 a game, the opposition 119.9. Marion is a special talent. Daniels, Songalia and Thomas are not.
by mlarroca on
Oct 16, 2008 7:35 PM EDT
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The Matrix in DC
Intriguing thought. Heat need a center and a PG… hey it’s the time of year to have conversations like this…. let’s see how things fo in Barcelona too
by khrabb on
Oct 17, 2008 9:48 AM EDT
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