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More 15th-spot madness

Ivan Carter in the print edition of the Post:

Dixon, who has a partially guaranteed contract, is a safe bet to make the final 15-man roster, but one player who is trying to make a case for himself is Washington native DerMarr Johnson, who came off the bench Tuesday night to score a team-high 19 points on 7-of-11 shooting in just under 22 minutes.

After the game, Wizards Coach Eddie Jordan made a point of praising the way Johnson helped spur a Washington run in the second half.

The problem for Johnson, who does not have a guaranteed contract, is that to keep him, the Wizards would have to cut either Dixon, a proven scorer who is familiar with Jordan's system, or Dee Brown, the team's lone backup point guard with Arenas out.

Ivan Carter on Wizards Insider:

There is no question that DerMarr has helped himself but I still see him facing a real battle to make the 15-man roster. The issue, as many of you have discussed, is that he'd have to beat out either Dee Brown or Dixon. Brown fits a need because he's onne of only two point guards on this roster until Gilbert Arenas gets back.

Dixon fits because he's so familiar with Coach Eddie Jordan's system and because he could be a scorer off the bench in the Roger Mason Jr. mode. Now, Johnson would give this team something unique as well. He's a big guard at 6-foot-9, he's long defensively and he's a slasher.

I guess we'll have to wait and see.

A couple really quick points:

  • Juan has somehow gone from being "all but guaranteed" a spot on the roster to being a "safe bet" in the span of two days.  Either DerMarr was just that impressive against New Orleans, or Ivan was being crossed up by his sources
  • And that's the other thing.  Once again, I'm not sure where this "safe bet" comment is coming from.  Ivan's a well-connected, strong reporter, so I know he's not just pulling that out of thin air, but who is telling him that information?  If it's off-the-record discussions, at least say something like "sources close to the team."  Because otherwise, it just sounds like speculation, even if it probably isn't
  • This tires me, but really, Juan Dixon is not like Roger Mason.  Juan Dixon is like Nick Young -- a high-usage, low-efficiency chucker that I suppose is a "proven scorer," if by proven you mean "will score 10 points on 15 shots anytime he wants."  DerMarr's the only one that really could provide the team something unique.  The argument that Juan knows the Princeton is a better one for Dixon's case.

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Can we please move on

Going back to the first poll on this site as to whether or not the readers would like to see Juan back on the team, the overwhelming percentage said “yes”. However, the points made in post after post from the authors is that Juan is a sympathy pick, DeMarr can play more positions, Juan is a poor shooter, etc. We get it – you don’t like him for the spot. Regardless, neither of these guys are being counted on for key contributions, and I can’t imagine any other team is fretting this much over the last spot on the roster. If we can move on to another topic, I promise someone an Austin Toros DeMarr throwback.

What changes are we making for tomorrow afternoon?

by AndNone on Oct 16, 2008 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I second that...

and add that as far as I can tell “all but guaranteed” and “a safe bet” are pretty much synonymous.

by bws on Oct 16, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

Although we’re fretting about the “last spot on the roster” – that doesn’t mean that is the last spot on the bench….

The players we are talking about, Juan Dixon and Dermarr Johnson will probably be rotation players… not end of the bench guys. So, to say that neither of these guys will be “counted on for key contributions” is probably incorrect….

McGee and Pecherov will undoubtedly be the last guys on the bench – and, other than commenting on potential, we’ve seen very few posts about either.

With Arenas out, the Wizards have only 4 guards:
Starters: DeShawn Stevenson and Antonio Daniels
Backups: Nick Young and Dee Brown

That’s pretty thin….. Especially if you consider Antonio’s injury problems last year, and the fact that both Nick Young and Dee Brown are unproven…. So, whoever is kept (either Dixon or Johnson) will see significant minutes.

Nick Young is expected to be the backup SG, a role that Roger Mason filled last year.
McGuire is expected to be the backup to Caron Butler….
Dee Brown is expected to be the backup to Daniels….

What happens if Nick Young sucks this year? Or if Dom can’t put the ball in the basket? … or if Dee Brown’s preseason was just an illusion?

THAT’s why we’re talking about the last roster spot…. because it matters.

by Rook6980 on Oct 16, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Counterpoints

1. It’s preseason.

2. If you want to talk about something else, write a FanPost and talk about something else. That’s the beauty of this platform.

3. The last two posts were the first posts I’ve made on the 15th roster spot.

4. Juan is not a “sympathy pick.” There are arguments for keeping Juan over DerMarr that are sensible. People have been making them. In fact, the “writers” are somewhat in disagreement. I’m more for DerMarr, Truth seems more for Dixon.

5. “All but guaranteed” strikes me as being different than “safe bet.” “All but guaranteed” is essentially saying it’s a 100% chance. “Safe bet” is dropping that down to anywhere from a 55% chance to a 95% chance.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 16, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, it seems like this blog has turned into a “take shots at Juan Dixon” blog. With each post I read on here I sense a bias against Juan from the author.

by Buddha Brown on Oct 17, 2008 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh please

If by “take shots at Juan Dixon,” you mean “I don’t want Juan Dixon on the roster,” then sure, but I’m not saying he’s a bad guy. Besides, it’s a blog, I’m not a journalist (not yet at least). I can have opinions and they are backed up. And like I told AndOne, there have literally been two posts on the 15th-roster discussion and one post on the Dixon signing. Three posts out of over 1,000 total on this site.

Instead of whining about Juan getting destroyed and about me having a “bias” (which is just ridiculous as I’m about as big a Terps fan as you can find), disagree and make the case for Juan yourself. Seriously. PLENTY of other people here have done it.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Oct 17, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

What do you want to talk about? The first Hornets game?

I’d rather talk about anything else.

Hey, what tourist sites do you think the guys will visit?

by MR on Oct 16, 2008 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

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