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Open thread: Regular season game 5


The essentials:
Nuggets (2-3) at Wizards (0-4)
8 p.m.
Verizon Center
ESPN

Last year:
December 13: Wizards 120, Nuggets 91.
December 18: Nuggets 117, Wizards 108.

Notable Nets numbers this season (pound the salt):
18th in expected winning percentage (.465).
2nd in pace factor (99.3 possessions per game).
19th in offensive efficiency/offensive rating (103.9).
15th in defensive efficiency/defensive rating (104.9).

Notable Nets numbers last season
8th in expected winning percentage (.574).
2nd in pace factor (96.2 possessions per game).
9th in offensive efficiency/offensive rating (109.3).
9th in defensive efficiency/defensive rating (107.).

Key links
No MRI scheduled yet for Gilbert's knee
Nugg Doctor.
Solid Gold
Nugg Doctor blog preview.
Nugg Doctor game preview.
Post recap of last night
Times recap of last night
Last night's game flow (look who has the highest +-)
Nene out for 6 weeks
Competition discussion: Denver

Starting lineups:
Nuggets
PG: Chucky Atkins.
SG: Allen Iverson.
SF: Carmelo Anthony.
PF: Eduardo Najera.
C: Marcus Camby.

Wizards

PG: Gilbert Arenas.
SG: DeShawn Stevenson.
SF: Caron Butler.
PF: Antawn Jamison.
C: Brendan Haywood.

Tonight's lines:
Nuggets at Wizards: Nuggets by 3.
Over/Under on Big 3 scoring: 62.1 points.

Apologies for not maintaining my regular output this week.  I'm just absolutely swamped with work, newspaper, and other things, so I really haven't been able to discuss all our problems.  That's why I'm so glad everyone's been talking in the diaries.  Keep up the great work there.

There's a lot to talk about with this team, namely, Gilbert's knee, Eddie Jordan's suckiness, DeShawn Steveson's disappearing act, the bench's suckiness, and the like.  I'm personally really concerned when Eddie Jordan gives lines like these.

"Nah. Gil is the one who tells us pretty much how he feels and how much he can go. He should be pretty fresh so his normal minutes are the entire first quarter and a few minutes in the second. That's normal."

It just goes to show how clueless Eddie can be sometimes.  Even now, Gilbert is complaining about knee pain, yet it's Gil who has to go to Eddie to ask about cutting down on his minutes.  In Antonio Daniels, we have someone who can spell Arenas so that Arenas doesn't have to play too much right now, yet Arenas is still playing 40 minutes a night.  Does it really have to be that way?

If Arenas misses an extended period of time, our season is toast.  It happened in 2003/04, when Arenas wasn't Arenas quite yet.  The key will be to limit his minutes to 30-35 a game, but Eddie hasn't done that yet.  It's one reason why I'm starting to really think he needs to go.  I have never really taken a stance on the issue, but if this continues, it might be time for a change.

I'm also hoping to see more of DeShawn Stevenson tonight, because there's no reason why he has to be this invisible.  He looks very out of sync, like he's always in the wrong spot offensively.  That, I think, is the main issue, and it's one another guy like Roger Mason may be able to solve.  The problem is DeShawn's the best perimeter defender we have, and when he went out in favor of AD yesterday, the Nets, specifically Vince Carter, made their comeback.  Even with DeShawn playing this poorly, he needs more than 14 minutes.

There were some positive signs from yesterday, particularly with Antawn Jamison and Caron Butler, and I expect those to continue.  The bench, though, simply has to play better.  Andray Blatche didn't have all that great of a game, and Darius Songaila was practically invisible.  They, along with Roger Mason, have to play much better than they did yesterday.

Meanwhile, Denver comes in on the heels of a blowout loss to the Celtics Wednesday.  They also learned that Nene will be out for a while (who couldn't see this coming), and with Kenyon Martin still slowly recovering, that hurts their frontcourt.  Carmelo Anthony is going to smoke Caron Butler, and I wonder about how we're going to stop Allen Iverson, but I don't think they can guard us either.  Gilbert should have a good game against the tiny Atkins/Iverson backcourt, and Carmelo has never been much of a defender.  Meanwhile, without Nene, we can hide Jamison on Eduardo Najera or Linas Kleiza.  The difficulty will be Brendan Haywood, because Camby is going to pull him away from the basket.  Hopefully, Camby isn't hitting his jumper.

Anyway, this is an open game thread, so talk about practice here.  I really am feeling a win tonight, but that might be wishful thinking.

GO WIZARDS!  

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I'm optimistic
or delusional. Despite the back-to-back, I'm going to go Wiz and over.

by thebigc1982 on Nov 9, 2007 6:03 PM EST reply actions  

Nugs and Under
Gil has a new blog.  He talks about the last shot.  Apparently Jason Kidd was giving him some advice on the court at the end of the game that he shouldn't be getting his knee drained this early and shouldn't be playing this many minutes.

by Aldo on Nov 9, 2007 6:14 PM EST reply actions  

Denver and under
I'm gonna be pessimistic until they give me a reason not to be.

by sierradave on Nov 9, 2007 6:22 PM EST reply actions  

Wizards, over
They were close yesterday.  I'm more confident tonight.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 9, 2007 6:41 PM EST reply actions  

Nothing to do with anything, but...
I just wanted to say I love that old Nuggets logo. Those rainbow uniforms are up there with the Golden State throwbacks with the trolley and the Atlanta throwbacks with the Pac-Man thing as some of the best of all time.

by Evan Dunlap on Nov 9, 2007 6:46 PM EST reply actions  

picks
wizards
over
gman and gwiz should go on tour.

by i love gwiz on Nov 9, 2007 7:49 PM EST reply actions  

Blatche!
Is playing great, hes flying up and down the court.  Hes got 7 boards but could have a couple more, just drew a charge, and isnt killing us on offense.  Im not sure what the deal is, i think hes poor at filling the lane, but he never gets the ball on the fast break.  Maybe theyre avoiding him, maybe hes poor at it, im not sure, just an observation.  Gil needs to step it up a little.

by Wooz on Nov 9, 2007 9:00 PM EST reply actions  

well...
i was 2 seconds from leaving the house, but i feel compelled to come back and this part.  The nuggets just took the lead by 10 in about 3 minutes and blatche has all of a sudden looked terrible.  I think hes tired, he stopped being quite as energetic and NO one is rotating on defense.  Klieza has gotten up for 2 or 3 threes and been wide open.  Nobody is comitted to defense right now.

by Wooz on Nov 9, 2007 9:06 PM EST reply actions  

B*TT CHEWING IS IN ORDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HEADS MUST ROLL!

Blatche is going to be GREAT.  But he can not do it alone.

Excuse me while I rant -- where's the big 3?  Where's the effort?  Where's the passion? Where's the fire?  The freakin' mystics could take the Wiz.  Heck, American University could take the Wiz.  

This is disgusting and poor excuse for basketball.  Where do you even begin to analyze?  Somebody help me but I'm losing my mind here.  

by ucantstopbernard on Nov 9, 2007 9:54 PM EST reply actions  

yeah
they mailed it in tonight

by Wooz on Nov 10, 2007 5:12 AM EST reply actions  

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